2024 Election - Trump vs. Harris, important downballot

[PhaelixWW]

Conservatives are too stupid to know what inflation actually is. They see loaf of bread at the store has not decreased in price and think inflation hasn't gone down. You're wasting your time trying to explain this to a guy who thinks George Soros is evil unfortunately.

I'm pretty sure he has me on ignore for stating that Trump is a rapist anyway, but... yeah.

Inflation is one of those things that seems to always give ignorant conservatives an "excuse" to hate the government, based largely on their failure to understand it.

[thesilentmajority]

I can easily see even hardcore MAGAts in Texas giving Cruz the boot, if for no other reason than his trip to Cancun during a freaking emergency.

Yeah, people really don’t like Ted Cruz. The guy reminds me of the zodiac killer.

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Right is fascist and the left are communist boom that's the buzzwords used by both sides.

Look, you already lied a couple of times now to my face. I know you're dishonest. You don't need to keep doubling down with more obvious falsehoods.

Now if trump wins we will see left-wing violence and people screaming from the roof tops election was lost due to foreign interference. If Harris wins we have will right-wing violence and people screaming from the roof tops election was stolen, voter fraud.

Nah. You're unwilling to accept the objective reality that right-wingers are far more likely to use violence, and the violence they engage in is consistently more extreme. I already made that point, you rejecting reality like this says way more about you than it does anything else.

[Polgara]

I'm pretty sure he has me on ignore for stating that Trump is a rapist anyway, but... yeah.

Inflation is one of those things that seems to always give ignorant conservatives an "excuse" to hate the government, based largely on their failure to understand it.

I'm from Australia, and a recent state election inflation was part of why people voted out a competent state government for another regressive corporate/property developer-filled conservative government. Hearing people talk about cost of living and inflation from a state where the government gave us rebates on our power bills (1k bucks with future plans to make that permanent with state-controlled renewable energy) and that same coal-taxed funding to give kids school lunches paid for and people still voted the other way because of things being more expensive and inflation.

Never underestimate how much people want to have opinions on things and have no intellectual capability to engage with the why, buzzwords are all they want and the simpler the stupidity the more it is engorged (as you'd already be well aware, but it is facepalming how little our state governments can do to combat inflation, and how they can only handle minimal parts of cost of living and still cop the full-abuse as if they are entirely in control).

Sorry, just wanted to piggyback on this point because I agree with it fully.

[thesilentmajority]

Look, you already lied a couple of times now to my face. I know you're dishonest. You don't need to keep doubling down with more obvious falsehoods.



Nah. You're unwilling to accept the objective reality that right-wingers are far more likely to use violence, and the violence they engage in is consistently more extreme. I already made that point, you rejecting reality like this says way more about you than it does anything else.

I’m gonna have to disagree on that considering that here on the West Coast where I live at we had lots of issues with antifa and violence. I know the talking points gonna be oh well they’re not considered leftist, furthermore, I don’t recall any right winger trying to assassinate the current person running for president of the United States how many assassination attempt we had on Trump? Political affiliation of those people was definitely to the left so yeah I’m gonna have to honestly respectfully disagree with you on that.

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Sidenote, I looked at your profile. Are you Canadian?

[Kaleredar]

It should be quite telling that we're going on and on about how the GOP is planning to replace Trump because he's a decrepit useless ancient orange bag of sludge and the intricacies required and how despondent, desperate, and underhanded the rest of the GOP would need to be and how militant his supporters might get while the Trump supporters in here are trying to argue how he's not actually technically a rapist and how you don't need to worry because he wont actually do all the awful things he said and even though he's never said he has a plan that you can totally trust him this time around when a far, FAR simpler path exists:


Trump loses, and we never really have to think about him again.

Here's hoping.

[Polgara]

I’m gonna have to disagree on that considering that here on the West Coast where I live at we had lots of issues with antifa and violence. I know the talking points gonna be oh well they’re not considered leftist, furthermore, I don’t recall any right winger trying to assassinate the current person running for president of the United States how many assassination attempt we had on Trump? Political affiliation of those people was definitely to the left so yeah I’m gonna have to honestly respectfully disagree with you on that.

You recall incorrectly.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o

You are REALLY fucking bad at this, like, damn this is almost like. . . Well it's very close to using multiple fishing lines to catch many fish.

[Kaleredar]

I’m gonna have to disagree on that considering that here on the West Coast where I live at we had lots of issues with antifa and violence.

I'm going to call you a liar right now.

I know the talking points gonna be oh well they’re not considered leftist, furthermore, I don’t recall any right winger trying to assassinate the current person running for president of the United States how many assassination attempt we had on Trump? Political affiliation of those people was definitely to the left so yeah I’m gonna have to honestly respectfully disagree with you on that.

No they weren't. Neither of them were left-wingers. As I recall in fact, both were disillusioned former republicans or republican-adjacent.

You can't even get your misinformation a little correct.

[PhaelixWW]

I’m gonna have to disagree on that considering that here on the West Coast where I live at we had lots of issues with antifa and violence.

There were not "lots of issues with antifa and violence".

furthermore, I don’t recall any right winger trying to assassinate the current person running for president of the United States how many assassination attempt we had on Trump? Political affiliation of those people was definitely to the left so yeah I’m gonna have to honestly respectfully disagree with you on that.

Oh, wow, you're just gobbling up all those false right-wing narratives, aren't you? You apparently have no capacity for distinguishing between fact and fiction.

[Bwgmon]

Trump loses, and we never really have to think about him again.

Here's hoping.

God, I wish, but I get the feeling that all we'll get following Trump losing is having to hear his devout scream about it until he kicks the bucket.

[PhaelixWW]

God, I wish, but I get the feeling that all we'll get following Trump losing is having to hear his devout scream about it until he kicks the bucket.

As long as he doesn't run again, I'm fine with their screams.

[Kaleredar]

God, I wish, but I get the feeling that all we'll get following Trump losing is having to hear his devout scream about it until he kicks the bucket.

Well I mean yeah they'll bitch and moan impotently, as will Trump, but like.. who cares at that point?

[thesilentmajority]

I'm going to call you a liar right now.



No they weren't. Neither of them were left-wingers. As I recall in fact, both were disillusioned former republicans or republican-adjacent.

You can't even get your misinformation a little correct.

Yeah, I know the summer of love riots. The attacking of the federal building in Portland. A Trump supporter getting murdered in Portland. Those are all facts. I hate to break it to you.

Yea cuz a republican, tried to assassinate the Republican nominee

[PhaelixWW]

Well I mean yeah they'll bitch and moan impotently, as will Trump, but like.. who cares at that point?

Hopefully they'll boycott elections at that point.

[Tech614]

I'm going to call you a liar right now.

He's right that the PNW has a real problem with extremists, he's just wrong about it being "antifa"(hilarious that conservatives still think antifa is some org to boot) lmao. It's actually white supremecist groups which are all over the damn place in rural Washington, Oregon and Idaho.

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I’m gonna have to disagree on that considering that here on the West Coast where I live at we had lots of issues with antifa and violence. I know the talking points gonna be oh well they’re not considered leftist,

Oh, they're left-wing.

https://socialscienceandhumanities.o...v-vysotsky.php
https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led...tremist-groups
https://www.csis.org/blogs/examining...tremism-antifa

They're also largely non-violent and even where individuals cross the line, that violence is nowhere close to the scale of right-wing groups like the Proud Boys.

That's reality. If your feelings are different, you're just objectively wrong and want your willful ignorance as to the truth to be given equal credence.

And that's not gonna happen. We'll just point out you're making shit up again. Because you are.

furthermore, I don’t recall any right winger trying to assassinate the current person running for president of the United States how many assassination attempt we had on Trump? Political affiliation of those people was definitely to the left so yeah I’m gonna have to honestly respectfully disagree with you on that.

Two.

Crooks, the guy who fired at him in the first attempt, was a registered Republican.
Routh, the guy in the second, voted for Trump in 2016, so calling him "left-wing" would be a lie, even if he's politically all over the place otherwise.

Not really helping your case that you're unaware of these details, dude. Both these guys leaned right. Is it that you're lying on purpose, or are you just gullible enough to fall for someone else's bullshit without ever thinking to check the facts yourself? It's one of the two.

Sidenote, I looked at your profile. Are you Canadian?

It's not like I'm hiding that fact. It's right in there my Location data.

And before you point out that you're American and should know better than a foreigner, I know. It's that embarrassing for you? You should know better than I do, but you keep lying about basic shit. Not to mention the open anti-semitism a while back, since the only reason anyone hates on George Soros is because he's a rich Jew.

[PhaelixWW]

Yeah, I know the summer of love riots. The attacking of the federal building in Portland. A Trump supporter getting murdered in Portland. Those are all facts. I hate to break it to you.

Those pale in insignificance next to the sheer volume of right-wing violence in the name of MAGA in the last 4-5 years.

Yea cuz a republican, tried to assassinate the Republican nominee

Yes, one was a registered Republican and the other said he'd voted for Trump in 2016 before becoming disillusioned.

[Kaleredar]

Yeah, I know the summer of love riots. The attacking of the federal building in Portland.

I'm sure many a trash can was violently disheveled. Truly harrowing.

A Trump supporter getting murdered in Portland. Those are all facts. I hate to break it to you.

Again, you reeaaally don't want to go down the route of "right wing vs. left wing violence" if you're claiming both sides, here.

It's a statistical fact that right wing violence is far more prevalent and dangerous in the United States. That's not an "opinion" you can have.

Yea cuz a republican, tried to assassinate the Republican nominee

Former republican.

And yes. Twice, in fact, you brought it up bud try and keep up.

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Yeah, I know the summer of love riots. The attacking of the federal building in Portland. A Trump supporter getting murdered in Portland. Those are all facts. I hate to break it to you.

Yea cuz a republican, tried to assassinate the Republican nominee

Two, so far, at least.

Actually, I'm not sure Routh ever registered, though he definitely voted for Trump in 2016. Crooks did register as a Republican, though.

[thesilentmajority]

Oh, they're left-wing.

https://socialscienceandhumanities.o...v-vysotsky.php
https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led...tremist-groups
https://www.csis.org/blogs/examining...tremism-antifa

They're also largely non-violent and even where individuals cross the line, that violence is nowhere close to the scale of right-wing groups like the Proud Boys.

That's reality. If your feelings are different, you're just objectively wrong and want your willful ignorance as to the truth to be given equal credence.

And that's not gonna happen. We'll just point out you're making shit up again. Because you are.



Two.

Crooks, the guy who fired at him in the first attempt, was a registered Republican.
Routh, the guy in the second, voted for Trump in 2016, so calling him "left-wing" would be a lie, even if he's politically all over the place otherwise.

Not really helping your case that you're unaware of these details, dude. Both these guys leaned right. Is it that you're lying on purpose, or are you just gullible enough to fall for someone else's bullshit without ever thinking to check the facts yourself? It's one of the two.


It's not like I'm hiding that fact. It's right in there my Location data.

And before you point out that you're American and should know better than a foreigner, I know. It's that embarrassing for you? You should know better than I do, but you keep lying about basic shit. Not to mention the open anti-semitism a while back, since the only reason anyone hates on George Soros is because he's a rich Jew.

Crooks was a registered republican who also donated in 2021 to a progressive left democrat pac if you look it up.

Now I’m gonna address this one time and one time only I would appreciate that we don’t start this antisemitic bullshit considering I’m actually Jewish. I find that a little offensive respectfully speaking.

The reason I was asking if you were based in Canada because I was trying to have a better understanding of who I’m talking to in the terms of American politics. This is a surprise me saying this, but there is cultural differences between both of our countries.

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That is pretty hyperbolic because I said that I think George is proof that evil doesn’t die that it’s because the fact the man is Jewish.

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I'm sure many a trash can was violently disheveled. Truly harrowing.



Again, you reeaaally don't want to go down the route of "right wing vs. left wing violence" if you're claiming both sides, here.

It's a statistical fact that right wing violence is far more prevalent and dangerous in the United States. That's not an "opinion" you can have.



Former republican.

And yes. Twice, in fact, you brought it up bud try and keep up.

The trashcan remark is kind of stupid people actually got killed and hurt and dragged out of their cars and beat on the freeway. You should really look up what happened in the Pacific Northwest on top of that. We had the jackasses from the proud boys come down there and fight antifa. So we have both extremist groups in this area.