2024 Election - Trump vs. Harris, important downballot

[Fugus]

Well, I'm off.

Hopefully this stuff changes before it's final but not holding my breath. While the margins are close on some of those, on others, not so much.

While I would largely be fine regardless as a white guy collecting disability from the military, I still want to look into eventually getting out of here after my father passes and I am no longer needed. Eventually get away from here somewhere less insane at which point I have a way for my nieces and nephews to get out of this crap if they want and if they choose to stay, at least I wouldn't be forced to spend the rest of my life watching them cleaning up their parents mess.

Even if I am largely protected, that doesn't mean I want to live in a place that is turning into everything I was raised this nation was meant to stand against and even fought against in WW2.

[Gaidax]

Again, what the hell are you talking about? the republicans say divise outrageous crap all the time and they're not losing. What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Trump can say whatever the fuck he wants.

Republicans don't claim tolerance and a bunch of other faux-virtues Dems cope about thinking they are better than everyone else.

[Fantomen]

I blame young white men. What about you guys?

This is a generalization, but I think it prove the point.

Remember then blacks usually voted Republican, untill the the Reublican party made them the "enemy" to fight against.

[SAY HER NAME]

In what way do you think the EU is nothing without the US?

As of August 24, Europe sent 118bn and the US sent 85bn in aid to Ukraine. Europe pledged another 74bn the US didn't.

Enough said

Aging population you say? Uhu, Europe is leading in the proportion of the elderly population with 19%, followed by North America with 17%. A 2% difference will break everything, for sure.

On 1 January 2023, the EU population was estimated at 448.8 million people and more than one-fifth (21.3 %) of it was aged 65 years and over.

This is a lie. You are 21.3% on elderly population. And using an EU estimate is cute given that some countries are the primary drivers of it like Italy that has almost a quarter of its population as elderly, without any sign that it will get better. Will EU countries subsidize Italian pensions?

https://www.statista.com/topics/8379...hern%20regions.

The CIP (Competitive Industrial Performance) Ranks the US in 6th place behind Germany (first) and Ireland (third).

Most of your exports go to the US

https://tradingeconomics.com/europea...rts-by-country

And your energy you buy from the US and Qatar. Without the US you wouldn't have an economic partner that is willing to buy your finished goods and services, as exports to China continue to decrease year by year.

[Mayhem]

As said above - your definition of "intolerant" is way too broad, you guys need to relax.

What's their definition of "intolerant" you're yapping about?

[Fugus]

Nah, they left him get away with the COVID deaths. They'll just blame the blue House. Bright side is the Dems might end up regaining the Senate in two years and 2028 will be a hard reset assuming Trump makes it his full 4.

Um.... What voter restrictions do you think will be passed in the next 2 years to prevent that with the Supreme Court rubber stamping it all if they get all 3 houses? They will nuke that filibuster in an instant at this point the moment it gets in the way. McConnell won't be there to try and keep it up.

[zorkuus]

Trump can say whatever the fuck he wants.

Republicans don't claim tolerance and a bunch of other faux-virtues Dems cope about thinking they are better than everyone else.

Ahh, so it's okay to be bigoted if you don't hide it. Gotcha.

This whole "both sides" argument is so childish and poorly thought out.
One side is being obnoxious and the other side is pointing it out. They are not the same, and the latter is certainly not the worse one.

[Endus]

What's their definition of "intolerant" you're yapping about?

"How dare you not like Nazis and bigots and fascists!"

[SAY HER NAME]

This is the first time I see people in the sphere of influence of the US argue that they dont really need the US. Its weird. You guys are in the same ship.

[Stormspellz]

So, every Israeli is now genocidal. Do you know me personally to make claims like that?

That is the issue with dems I keep pointing out.

he's speaking about miller's specific policies in relation, you know those extreme white nationalist ones. Or we not allowed to calling things by their text book definitions? wait never mind, clearly you already argued we can't.

[noremorze]

Ah yes, it's the people who oppose intolerance that really are the bad guys. Jog on.

[PACOX]

Maybe we are overreacting.
Maybe trump will fix inflation and the border and remake health care perfectly.
Maybe elon will fix all government waste, and fix up the budget to near ideal levels.
Maybe rfk will make the average american healthier when he takes over the fda and cdc.
Maybe windmills are stupid and removing offshore farms is a good for the birds.
Maybe...

Does anyone actually believe he will do any this? Does he have any other policys?

Trump can fix inflation. Inflation is already correcting itself. It doesn't mean anything for more people who make under 150k.

Elon can fix government waste. He is doing now and how he made his billionaires. SpaceX and Tesla are just way for federal agencies to get around government oversight, the waste is never reported if its hidden in private companies.

RFK can make the average American healthier in the short term. He'll get some BS banned like our overallowance of HFCS, the FDA allowing bullshit to enter the food supply, the CDC's redtape slowing up processes. Doesn't help in the long term when preventative practices are outlawed or written off, a lot of healtcare is based on things that only yield results well down the line.

Fuck the birds, tired of cleaning shit off my windshield and seagulls are the worst.

[D3thray]

I wish I could at least feel schadenfreude knowing the vast majority of the people who voted for Trump are only going to have their lives get worse, but it's the marginalized who are going to suffer the most.

Dude the marginalized are exactly why I voted Trump. They got screwed under Biden. I watched it personally in my community.

[Edge-]

Missourians voted to legalize abortion up until fetal viability and override the state's current ban on nearly all abortions, according to a call by the Associated Press.

The amendment enshrines abortion rights into the constitution over the objections of the heavily Republican state leadership.

Some good news. Shame some of these women seem to be taking the, "Well as long as our reproductive rights are protected, assuming no federal ban, fuck everyone else." approach.

[Polgara]

Dude the marginalized are exactly why I voted Trump. They got screwed under Biden. I watched it personally in my community.

Why lie like this so blatantly?

[Gestopft]

I mean, it's not Trump who called half the country trash on camera few days before elections. It's a death by a thousand cuts, buddy.

Again: Trump has insulted far more people and far more often than this.

Stop pretending that insulting voters has anything to do with it.

[prwraith]

So, every Israeli is now genocidal. Do you know me personally to make claims like that?

That is the issue with dems I keep pointing out.

Nah We'll just play by the Republican rulebook now. I don't give a fuck about your country that only exists by the charity of others and by stealing land from its actual inhabitants to establish a land of religious fanatics. Genocide and religion, basically hand in hand as always

You want Democrats to be nice? Fuck that. It's not working, so welcome to the world you all asked for

[SAY HER NAME]

So, every Israeli is now genocidal. Do you know me personally to make claims like that?

That is the issue with dems I keep pointing out.

Democrats are actually insanely supportive of Israel. But I do agree. Kamala should have never even tried to pander to these radicals, they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Palestinian activists were presented with two options, vote for Kamala who at least wants to reign in Bibi or vote for Trump who wants to triple down on the war. They chose Trump, they are irrelevant and should not be pandered ever again

[Aphelios]

Got called for God-Emperor Trump.

[PACOX]

Um.... What voter restrictions do you think will be passed in the next 2 years to prevent that with the Supreme Court rubber stamping it all if they get all 3 houses? They will nuke that filibuster in an instant at this point the moment it gets in the way. McConnell won't be there to try and keep it up.

Trump will likely pass legislation through executive orders like he did before. He is lazy and SCOTUS doesn't always agree with him. Ego can't take it, he rather hodl the power. At least executive orders are easier for the next person to overturn.