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    Blizzard killed everyone on the Horde who had any sort of animosity to the Alliance. Then they went and found Garrosh in the Shadowlands and killed him again so he can't ever return. Half the long-standing Alliance leadership retired in Dragonflight and left their position to characters who actively work with both factions.

    Thrall, Baine, Jaina, Anduin...they're all buddies. The only way you could possibly get a faction conflict out of the current leadership is if you had Turalyon and Alleria, or maybe Talanji, snap and launch a sneak attack, but whichever did it would, based on MoP and BfA, have their own faction side against them.

    Which means there would have to be a mass cull and replacement of leadership and sentiment on both sides in order for any actual conflict to occur. And that's not going to happen. The conflict between factions is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Inconceiveable. The core idea of this franchise is about distinctive, conflicting factions. What happens when factions and cobflict are thrown out of the window? You get SL and DF, the most generic, flavorless expansions yet as it is generic heroes beating up evil bad guy #52847, with none of the gripping faction pride or compelling conflict of a war or the moral complexities of fighting other people (who aren't just world quest mobs). If the factions are merged, this game is dead.
    Ah yes, the gripping tale of both sides constantly throwing aside their differences to unite against a common enemy. Great faction conflicts.

    USA is one country, but you can't tell me there isn't a War Within.
    There's no reason they can't bring the alliance and horde together.

    There can still be conflicts, they just won't be MAJOR ALLIANCE GENERAL VS MAJOR HORDE WARCHIEF!!!!!!!! Whiiiiich has almost never happened anyway, really.
    The only real shit we've got was Sylvanas burning the tree down. Every other conflict has been so watered down, or played out in a way we experience none of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Inconceiveable. The core idea of this franchise is about distinctive, conflicting factions. What happens when factions and cobflict are thrown out of the window? You get SL and DF, the most generic, flavorless expansions yet as it is generic heroes beating up evil bad guy #52847, with none of the gripping faction pride or compelling conflict of a war or the moral complexities of fighting other people (who aren't just world quest mobs). If the factions are merged, this game is dead.
    Ah yes, including the universally panned Warcraft 3, where the former enemies first worked together, so much that it was jarring that the followup World of Warcraft had faction conflict again (recently learned that WC3 and WoW were developed alongside each other, with WoW devs not knowing much about WC3, which does explain a lot)
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    I mean, TWW or TLT would be the time to go for a Tinker/Artificer class given the Titans and their Great Works.
    But hiding several massive features like this until alpha/beta would be one hot-ass decision.
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  5. #25
    The OP is bait and a lie but I do enjoy this thread saying they want faction conflict back. People's opinions are locked in this ~5 year long cycle where it goes faction war is so good and compelling -> zzz why always horde vs alliance -> thank god we're united to fight against a common enemy -> zzzz why is there no war in warcraft reeeee -> faction war is so good and compelling -> and on and on it goes. Vanilla -> Wrath faction war, Cata -> Legion working together, BFA -> SL faction war, DF -> Worldsoul Saga working together. We're currently in the "zzzz why is there no war in warcraft reeee" segment of the cycle except this time the faction restrictions have been relaxed on guilds and groups and there's no way they're unwinding that for something as pointless as a story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShineBright View Post
    -Artificer Class available race-wide to all - basically Tinker - 3 Specs: Pilot-tank mech suit, Saboteur-guns and pistols, Medic-guns,pistol healing syringes

    -Cosmetic Spells - Glyphs integrated into Path of the Titans 2.0 - change spell colors and visuals for all classes - Glyphs become collectibles

    -Transmog weapon and armor types lifted - like ESO - all armor from cloth to plates and all weapons skins usable by all

    -Race-wide paladin and shaman - druid will come at a later date (work not done), demon hunter will come in midnight, evoker will come in last titan.

    -Story is about convergence of cosmic forces: Horde will get Venthyr, alliance will get Sylvar,

    -Later in a patch: Horde and Alliance will merge into one faction - players will freely choose their sub faction of either Allaince or Horde but it will be name only. All cities and camps previously faction specific now free to all players.

    -Void elves will become High elves with hairstyles and optional void abilties
    Rip are we now getting fake alpha posts why people waste their time coming up with absolute BS I’ll never know. Find something better to do with your life.

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    Don't waste your energy on this one folks. Just a regular ban evader.
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