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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    So LFR players can get potentially up to max mythic ilvl but, IIRC, you can only upgrade gear so far before it starts requiring crests that only drop from harder content, yeah?
    On the items that are available for buillions yes. At some point you need wyrm and aspect crests to upgrade further.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Only way to get Bullion is to run the "Awakened" Raids?

    Huge L to anyone that doesn't raid.

    in before "BUT NORMAL IS A JOKE JUST GO DO IT LOL"
    I agree. This has been done again and again, raid exclusive. I personally don't raid, I don't want to raid, I don't want to waste all that time for raids and/or be locked/reserved to raid "late" in the evening. But I love M+, it's my content.

    Put it inside M+ as a weekly quest or something. They could even reward it from lower keys only, in order to get higher rated players as myself to "help" alts and/or lower rated players. Then it would reflect the difficulty of LFR/normal raiding where people will end up in order to get this coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    Why do you need raid gear if you don't raid

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    Because raids contain trinkets and weapons such as the ones from our current raid, like Fyrakks rageheart, Thorncaller Claw, Gholak etc etc. These give a huge advantage in M+, almost to the point that they're required. I wouldn't expect someone like you, pushing +10s to understand.

    Being able to buy your BiS trinket in 2 weeks that'll last you until War Within isn't fast enough?

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    Where does it say it'll take 2 weeks, if you're not raiding?

    This makes literally no sense, do you people even think before you type out the whine?

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    Did you think before spewing your shit about HURR DURR Y U NEED RAIDGEAR DURR??

    The cosmetics are literally just the raid items, nothing you can't get elsewhere or probably don't already have

    So you can either get a gauranteed BiS raid item every 2 weeks, or save up for your mount etc

    I really don't get what players expect - just to get everything handed to you week one? Would that be fun?
    We wouldn't expect or want cosmetics be locked behind the same coin that's used for BIS gear. This shouldn't be the case, and hasn't been before. The coin should only be meat for current content gear, M+, raid or pvp. But this must again, be hard for you to grip.

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    Nice we get to run same content again sweet!!

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by meelula View Post
    Nice we get to run same content again sweet!!
    Beats doing the same single raid for months like it has been in the past.

    14 months of siege of orgrimmar and hellfire citadel scarred me.
    Last edited by Ghostile; 2024-04-20 at 09:54 AM.

  5. #45
    Imo keep the Bullion cap but award one on the first M+ clear, Raid boss kill or for completion of the weekly quest. And something for PvPers I guess. That way everyone gets it.

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    New! Old shit.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkburk View Post
    I agree. This has been done again and again, raid exclusive. I personally don't raid, I don't want to raid, I don't want to waste all that time for raids and/or be locked/reserved to raid "late" in the evening. But I love M+, it's my content.

    Put it inside M+ as a weekly quest or something. They could even reward it from lower keys only, in order to get higher rated players as myself to "help" alts and/or lower rated players. Then it would reflect the difficulty of LFR/normal raiding where people will end up in order to get this coin.

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    Because raids contain trinkets and weapons such as the ones from our current raid, like Fyrakks rageheart, Thorncaller Claw, Gholak etc etc. These give a huge advantage in M+, almost to the point that they're required. I wouldn't expect someone like you, pushing +10s to understand.



    Where does it say it'll take 2 weeks, if you're not raiding?



    Did you think before spewing your shit about HURR DURR Y U NEED RAIDGEAR DURR??



    We wouldn't expect or want cosmetics be locked behind the same coin that's used for BIS gear. This shouldn't be the case, and hasn't been before. The coin should only be meat for current content gear, M+, raid or pvp. But this must again, be hard for you to grip.
    Nice alt account

    Reply to me on main or don't reply at all

    I'm 2.5-3k on all of my toons; and consider M+ my preferred style of play - if I want the raid specifc trinkets, then I should have to do the raid, which I did - it's that simple

    Killing one boss a week for 2 weeks to get your BiS trinket is an EXTREMELY minor requirement, if you can't even do that, you don't really need BiS gear do you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Imo keep the Bullion cap but award one on the first M+ clear, Raid boss kill or for completion of the weekly quest. And something for PvPers I guess. That way everyone gets it.
    No, you need to raid if you want raid loot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    Beats doing the same single raid for months like it has been in the past.

    14 months of siege of orgrimmar and hellfire citadel scarred me.
    There truly is no point looking for logic or honesty in people who reflexively complain about every single thing

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by meelula View Post
    Nice we get to run same content again sweet!!
    I guess they could go back to the old method then. Would you rather have that? Instead of the fated season you get NOTHING. Just a long dead period of zero anything until the pre-patch for the next expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    Beats doing the same single raid for months like it has been in the past.

    14 months of siege of orgrimmar and hellfire citadel scarred me.
    No doubt, I don't get the hate for the fated season. I'll take it over nothing at all.

  9. #49
    New season, lets gooooo!

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    Nice alt account

    Reply to me on main or don't reply at all

    I'm 2.5-3k on all of my toons; and consider M+ my preferred style of play - if I want the raid specifc trinkets, then I should have to do the raid, which I did - it's that simple

    Killing one boss a week for 2 weeks to get your BiS trinket is an EXTREMELY minor requirement, if you can't even do that, you don't really need BiS gear do you

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    No, you need to raid if you want raid loot

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    There truly is no point looking for logic or honesty in people who reflexively complain about every single thing
    This is my main account. I use it only to reply to stupidity.

    Also, 2500-3000 mmr across the board is no achievement. I could achieve that with a 4man team. You probably think "Heck, 3000 is more or less the same as 3200". Let me inform you that it's not. 3000 took me 2 weeks to get. 3000 to 3100 or 3100 to 3150, those are massive steps. But you're nowhere near that level, and in other terms that makes you a casual and your vote to higher end gameplay is revoked.

    I'm not replying to anything else as you've set the bar in this response, to what level you play at, and what you care about in this game.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkburk View Post
    This is my main account. I use it only to reply to stupidity.

    Also, 2500-3000 mmr across the board is no achievement. I could achieve that with a 4man team. You probably think "Heck, 3000 is more or less the same as 3200". Let me inform you that it's not. 3000 took me 2 weeks to get. 3000 to 3100 or 3100 to 3150, those are massive steps. But you're nowhere near that level, and in other terms that makes you a casual and your vote to higher end gameplay is revoked.

    I'm not replying to anything else as you've set the bar in this response, to what level you play at, and what you care about in this game.
    I'll have you know you're both casuals with my 3600 rating.

    You both have your votes to higher end gameplay revoked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    They already changed their minds on every 2 weeks for the raid rotation. Back to every week now.

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    About that..
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    I'll have you know you're both casuals with my 3600 rating.

    You both have your votes to higher end gameplay revoked.
    Funny how i never mentioned my own rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meelula View Post
    Nice we get to run same content again sweet!!
    The sheep here will defend this rehashed bullshit by literally saying its better than nothing.
    The hammer comes down:
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    The sheep here will defend this rehashed bullshit by literally saying its better than nothing.
    Are you even aware how things were in the past?

    People who bitch about final season being old raids forget or are too young to remember the previous tiers.


    Siege of Orgrimmar - 1 Year 4 Months 24 Days
    Hellfire Citadel - 1 Year 6 Months 25 Days
    Antorus, the Burning Throne - 9 Months 7 Days
    Ny'althoa, the Waking City - 10 Months
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkburk View Post
    I agree. This has been done again and again, raid exclusive. I personally don't raid, I don't want to raid, I don't want to waste all that time for raids and/or be locked/reserved to raid "late" in the evening. But I love M+, it's my content.

    Put it inside M+ as a weekly quest or something. They could even reward it from lower keys only, in order to get higher rated players as myself to "help" alts and/or lower rated players. Then it would reflect the difficulty of LFR/normal raiding where people will end up in order to get this coin.

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    Because raids contain trinkets and weapons such as the ones from our current raid, like Fyrakks rageheart, Thorncaller Claw, Gholak etc etc. These give a huge advantage in M+, almost to the point that they're required. I wouldn't expect someone like you, pushing +10s to understand.



    Where does it say it'll take 2 weeks, if you're not raiding?



    Did you think before spewing your shit about HURR DURR Y U NEED RAIDGEAR DURR??



    We wouldn't expect or want cosmetics be locked behind the same coin that's used for BIS gear. This shouldn't be the case, and hasn't been before. The coin should only be meat for current content gear, M+, raid or pvp. But this must again, be hard for you to grip.
    But it’s for raid loot. Kind of makes sense outside of tmog collecting.
    Now, I preferred the idea behind getting 2 from weeklies, and stuff like that; but, this way is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    The sheep here will defend this rehashed bullshit by literally saying its better than nothing.
    I mean to be fair the alternative is literally nothing. The same raid/dungeons continue for another 5 months. People stop playing, which means there is less players overall. Or… they do season 4 which brings all raids to the same gear level, adds affixes to make them a bit different and gets players playing again

    Edit: yeah, it’s absolutely rehashed content. There is zero doubt about that. But it’s better than playing the same raid for twice the length of the previous seasons
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  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    The sheep here will defend this rehashed bullshit by literally saying its better than nothing.
    The coming dungeons arent even bad. They've been tuned as well, so it should be better this time around.

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    I'm more interested in the dungeon changes. Heroic dungeons at this point are mostly an exercise in sleepwalking, of course, but going straight to m+10 seems a big jump, even without the additional mechanics and affixes.
    How will this work for a newly levelled character? That's a big gap in item level requirement coming from normal dungeons / levelling gear.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    The sheep here will defend this rehashed bullshit by literally saying its better than nothing.
    So you would rather have 'nothing'. Literally nothing. Well you do you, I'll do some season 4 to kill some time til the expansion.

    It cracks me up that you will take a stance that nothing is better than something, but it just makes you look silly.

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