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    Evokers new class combo

    Looks like we'll get new class combos coming from the war within

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    Can you be a lot more specific than that?
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    I think you meant to write the title as "Dracthyr's New Class Combos"

    Personally I'll be making a Death Knight if it will be possible

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    They better nerf some of those racial abilities, like Glide and the visage ability that boosts HP regen for example.

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    I could see something like tailwhip and wing buffet getting adjusted, glide is just a perk with having wings along with visage to show off more mogs. Just like engineering can give parachute/gliders to any class, now we got something else that can provide that depending on what classes they pick for it.

    The core ones like mage/warrior/hunter would definitely be open to dracthyr. It would be interesting to see what other classes would be picked for dracthyr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    They better nerf some of those racial abilities, like Glide and the visage ability that boosts HP regen for example.
    It's funny you want the utility/bad racials nerfed, but don't even mention the actually strong ones...

    Like, why would you ever want to nerf an ability that regs HP outside of combat? It is actually literally useless as it is.

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    Multiclasses confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andromedes View Post
    Multiclasses confirmed.
    Where? I have not seen anything on it yet.
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    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    Where? I have not seen anything on it yet.
    I'm just making very elaborate joke about OP's post, dont worry about it.

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    Well I from what I have seen the animations are 99% done. All regular classes could be played as a Dracthyr. My bet is that they will add druid and still need to do those models fitting with the race. The link with the Dream is very obvious and not doing them would be lazy.

    My bet is all classes but no:
    - Shaman
    - Demon Hunter
    - Paladin
    ~ Death Knight ? Not sure ?

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    My money is on all the basic bitch classes: warrior, mage, rogue, priest, hunter, warlock.

    None of the big boy classes: dk, paladin, shaman, druid, monk. And of course not demon hunter.

    They all look stupid anyways because Evokers right now have biological abilities like Hover and Wing Buffet, which will obviously not be present on other classes. Like....what happened, they forgot how to use their wings?! A dracthyr monk who rolls instead of hovering?! Why?!

    Nah, dude, this race was a mistake. They should have just went with flightless Drakonid.
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    they should have stayed drackthyr-evoker only tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    They better nerf some of those racial abilities, like Glide and the visage ability that boosts HP regen for example.
    Glide is inconsequential. DHs have that exact same feature and they're not overpowered.

    Same with the Visage's HP regen. It only triggers when out of combat so it's irrelevant for combat purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    None of the big boy classes: dk, paladin, shaman, druid, monk. And of course not demon hunter.
    Considering the dracthyr have green dragonflight blood in them, and the green dragons are the ones whose domain is the Emerald Dream (evokers even have Dream spells as part of their rotation as healer) I can easily see evokers as druids.

    They all look stupid anyways because Evokers right now have biological abilities like Hover and Wing Buffet, which will obviously not be present on other classes.
    'Hover' is a class ability, not a racial ability.

    Lik....what happened, they forgot how to use their wings?! A dracthyr monk who rolls instead of hovering?! Why?!
    Why would a draenei heal with elemental magic (as shaman) but not the holy light (as per their racial)? Why don't tauren fight with their horns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post

    'Hover' is a class ability, not a racial ability.
    It's a "class ability" because as usual Blizzard was in a rush and didn't think this through for the long term. Hover should never have existed as a class ability or at all, or be replaced with a magical kind of Hover that's only available to Evoker because the class focuses on magic. Same as the Worgen's Running Wild racial speed boost is not part of the Warrior class or something.

    Losing hover would be like a human forgetting how to run. It's not something that is trained, it's something that comes naturally.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Why would a draenei heal with elemental magic (as shaman) but not the holy light (as per their racial)? Why don't tauren fight with their horns?

    L take. Doesn't even make sense. Draenei aren't beings of Light, they can use the Light in the same way as Humans do, and their racial heal is a gimmick. Also why would Tauren fight with their horns when they are vestigial, weapons are much better than horns, and Tauren bodies aren't even positioned horizontally in order make use of their horns.

    Also Draenei have horns and they don't use them either for the same reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    It's a "class ability" because as usual Blizzard was in a rush and didn't think this through for the long term. Hover should never have existed as a class ability or at all,
    Why can't a human mage sprint like rogues? "Having legs" is a biological trait of humans, so why can't human mages run like human rogues? Holy magic is a trait of all draenei, so why can't the shaman mage heal with holy magic?

    All dracthyr will be able to soar. It's more than enough a compromise to keep the fantasy alive.

    Same as the Worgen's Running Wild racial speed boost is not part of the Warrior class or something.
    Read above. Worgens have 'Running Wild', dracthyr will have 'Soar'. 'Hover' is a combat ability, not a travel ability.

    L take. Doesn't even make sense. Draenei aren't beings of Light,
    Yours is the 'L' here. All draenei have 'Gift of the Naaru', a holy healing racial spell ability.

    Also why would Tauren fight with their horns when they are vestigial, weapons are much better than horns, and Tauren bodies aren't even positioned horizontally in order make use of their horns.
    Seems to be you didn't watch the BfA opening cinematic where a tauren literally tramples through the Alliance front lines, gouging them with his horns:


    Also Draenei have horns and they don't use them either for the same reason.
    Speaking of 'L' takes. Their horns can't even be compared, on top of the draenei being a more civilized folk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    My money is on all the basic bitch classes: warrior, mage, rogue, priest, hunter, warlock.

    None of the big boy classes: dk, paladin, shaman, druid, monk. And of course not demon hunter.

    They all look stupid anyways because Evokers right now have biological abilities like Hover and Wing Buffet, which will obviously not be present on other classes. Like....what happened, they forgot how to use their wings?! A dracthyr monk who rolls instead of hovering?! Why?!

    Nah, dude, this race was a mistake. They should have just went with flightless Drakonid.
    Nah, this race was perfect. Maybe needed a few beefier and fiercer looking options, but it should stay Evoker only. Now a whole entire new can of worms are going to open up and complainers will never be satisfied. Hopefully the Evoker class isn’t overtly effected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Glide is inconsequential. DHs have that exact same feature and they're not overpowered.
    DHs are a single class balanced around having glide as a class ability. What happens when you expand that ability to Warriors, Rogues, Mages, etc?

    I guess we’ll see soon enough.

    Non-Evoker dracthyr should get their own set of (inferior) racials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    DHs are a single class balanced around having glide as a class ability. What happens when you expand that ability to Warriors, Rogues, Mages, etc?
    Why don't you elucidate us, then? Tell us: what could happen if warriors, rogues, mages, etc, get access to that ability through the dracthyr racial?

    Not to mention that they already have access to a similar ability through engineering's gliders, but sure, go ahead and tell us the doom-and-gloom of warriors, rogues and mages having access to 'Glide' through the dracthyr's racials.

    Non-Evoker dracthyr should get their own set of (inferior) racials.
    They already will considering they won't get upgraded tail swipe/wing buffet like evokers do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    DHs are a single class balanced around having glide as a class ability. What happens when you expand that ability to Warriors, Rogues, Mages, etc?
    Between Goblin Gliders (Engi tinker or consumable Kit) which are stronger but on a CD, and several Parasol Toys, and most classes having one or more abilities for slowfall, resetting fall distance or charging/teleporting to targets, that's not really a huge argument against giving non-Evoker Dracthyr access to Glide. Sure, it's not perfectly logical, but I'd put it in the realm of plausible suspension of disbelief.

    At least for melee specs, if you need some lore explanation, one could imagine that you'd retract the wings while swinging weapons, to avoid self-injury. Explains why you can Glide mid-fight onto an enemy to then switch to attacking, but not Hover while swinging weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    DHs are a single class balanced around having glide as a class ability. What happens when you expand that ability to Warriors, Rogues, Mages, etc?
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    DHs are not balanced around glide wtf lmao. That has nothing to do with DH balancing. What does having a glorified slow fall do for anybody, besides ya know, falling slow? Which every single class can already do thanks to things like goblin gliders or the mary poppins umbrellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereb View Post
    DHs are not balanced around glide wtf lmao. That has nothing to do with DH balancing. What does having a glorified slow fall do for anybody, besides ya know, falling slow? Which every single class can already do thanks to things like goblin gliders or the mary poppins umbrellas
    Ahh yes Glide the single breaking point of Demon Hunters. Every class with a Slowfall is destined to be obscenely disgusting. Deathwing screamed in terror when I got the Fangs of the Father, not because of the rather INSANE damage potential no but because me as the class that already takes half fall damage and has been an engineer since the beginning can now sprout wings and fall slower
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