GW2 Janthir Wilds - Discussion Thread

[Chickat]

GW2's expansion maps are nowhere near the same size as the Azure Span or the Ohn'arhn plains. About half that size at most. But there is more stuff to do packed into that area. In WoW, most of the Azure Span and the Plains is devoid of actual stuff to do. You're flying over fields with random herds of animals walking around. No events or quests to do. In GW2 you walk 20 feet and you're now in an event or on some achievement puzzle.

I played GW2 for a few weeks, but then DF came out and i got sidetracked. Just trying to decide if I want to get back into it. I havent seen anything but a few vanilla zones.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I havent seen anything but a few vanilla zones.

If you want to get an idea of the scale, then @4:09:23 you can see me open the map for reference and then fly across the width of an expansion map (they are almost always rectangular like this) in a few seconds.

The maps used to take a lot longer to traverse because we didn't have mounts and had to navigate around mountains or climb layers. Then PoF added mounts like the rabbit that can leap up cliffs, which made getting around easy, and then they added the griffon which allows you to soar across a map in seconds. So the world feels a lot smaller. WoW zones are so huge that even with dragonriding it can still take a couple minutes to fly across a zone.

[PACOX]

So a modern GW2 map is like the size of a larger modern wow zone roughly.

It's hard to make a direct comparison because GW2 map use up lot more of their volume. The designers love using vertical space. Not as apparent in the vanilla maps, those were designed without all the mobility options introduced after core GW2.


Can't really say what's actually bigg but imagine if a GW2 map is the same size as a WoW but like 3 WoW maps layered on top of one another and twice as dense.

[Chickat]

It's hard to make a direct comparison because GW2 map use up lot more of their volume. The designers love using vertical space. Not as apparent in the vanilla maps, those were designed without all the mobility options introduced after core GW2.


Can't really say what's actually bigg but imagine if a GW2 map is the same size as a WoW but like 3 WoW maps layered on top of one another and twice as dense.

Seems more like Legion zones. Small but very dense. Maybe more dense than Legion even but thats the comparison im making in my mind.

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If you want to get an idea of the scale, then @4:09:23 you can see me open the map for reference and then fly across the width of an expansion map (they are almost always rectangular like this) in a few seconds.

The maps used to take a lot longer to traverse because we didn't have mounts and had to navigate around mountains or climb layers. Then PoF added mounts like the rabbit that can leap up cliffs, which made getting around easy, and then they added the griffon which allows you to soar across a map in seconds. So the world feels a lot smaller. WoW zones are so huge that even with dragonriding it can still take a couple minutes to fly across a zone.

Seems like Dragon riding might be faster than GW2 flying. Also that black Dragon is ugly lol. Its like its covered in black spell effects. Not sure if thats the point but. Ill probably redownload the game. I own the base game and maybe 1 expansion from a deal, so I prob have a ton of content to play with no sub which is nice.

[PACOX]

Seems like Dragon riding might be faster than GW2 flying. Also that black Dragon is ugly lol. Its like its covered in black spell effects. Not sure if thats the point but. Ill probably redownload the game. I own the base game and maybe 1 expansion from a deal, so I prob have a ton of content to play with no sub which is nice.

WoWs dragon riding actually borrows from two of GW2s mounts. The one Val showed off is the slower one, the Dragon riding skills were borrowed from this one.

The speed was borrowed from the one in this video.

[Chickat]

WoWs dragon riding actually borrows from two of GW2s mounts. The one Val showed off is the slower one, the Dragon riding skills were borrowed from this one.

The speed was borrowed from the one in this video.

I knew they borrowed it, but didnt know there was more than 1 type of flying mount.

[Poppincaps]

Forget what I said, the Ranger spear looks really good. I'm sold.

[Edge-]

Forget what I said, the Ranger spear looks really good. I'm sold.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/s...d-necromancer/

And associated blog post with some additional info in there.

I'm intrigued by this for my guardian and it might shake up my builds a bit. Doubt it'll replace mace/shield or staff for primary support/boons, but might be a nice option for a more power-based hybrid dps/support build? Will have to see, though unsure if there's stats to support that (Condi firebrand can cheese that via traits to get some nice healing power/concentration).

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Ranger spear animations automatically transitioning from being thrown at range to swung in melee is cool. Wish ranger axes had that capability.

[justwatching]

I really wish this game would click for me but something about it always feels wrong.

[Poppincaps]

I really wish this game would click for me but something about it always feels wrong.

tbh I felt this same way. I think the 1-80 leveling experience is really weird. I'd personally suggest boosting a character to 80, doing the base game campaign and immediately jumping into the expansions. The exploration, combat, and story is a lot better in the expansions. I had tried getting into Guild Wars 2 3 times before it finally clicked when I did that.

[justwatching]

tbh I felt this same way. I think the 1-80 leveling experience is really weird. I'd personally suggest boosting a character to 80, doing the base game campaign and immediately jumping into the expansions. The exploration, combat, and story is a lot better in the expansions. I had tried getting into Guild Wars 2 3 times before it finally clicked when I did that.

Yeah maybe I'll try that. The first few zones definitely feel very outdated.

[Rustedsaint]

I feel like playing gw2 again but it’s been awhile, the last version I played was right after we finally killed the big crystal dragon, but we had to head north because the “ice dragon” had somehow absorbed the powers of the death dragon.

[PACOX]

I feel like playing gw2 again but it’s been awhile, the last version I played was right after we finally killed the big crystal dragon, but we had to head north because the “ice dragon” had somehow absorbed the powers of the death dragon.

Thats about the midway point now. Cool thing about GW2 is that you can always just pick right back up where you left off. Or if you want to do more recent and go back, you can always do that too.

[VMSmith]

I really wish this game would click for me but something about it always feels wrong.

Every time I've played GW2 I've always bounced off because of the movement in combat. If I left click on something I just stand there doing nothing until I hit skills, right clicking starts the auto-attack but my movement is so swayed that I have the worst time clicking on the mob I want. I imagine there's some settings that would fix this, but I don't know what they are. The movement is still terrible out of combat, but I can suffer through that. In combat it just becomes intolerable for me.

It's a shame, because otherwise I dig this game. But that underwater feel to movement just kills it for me.

[Edge-]

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/s...-and-engineer/



Spear blog post for warrior, thief, and engi.

[PACOX]

Really like the warrior thief engi set.


I knew the warrior was going to only emulate paragon from gw1, it's a shame they won't be able to wield a shield at at the same time.

[PACOX]

Rev, Mesmer, and Ele

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Nice video editing transitions.

[unfilteredJW]

Man, the really closed with the best.

Mesmers got the melee they wanted.
Eles got a ranged.
And I got a new condi weapon for my rev and it's awesome.