What is going on with these overpowered lvl 20 characters in remix?

[ScarletKnives]

Yerterday while pugging for heroics I saw at least twice lvl 20 characters just curbstomping the dungeon (one of then was a holy priest), so fast rest of players couldnt keep up with speed and keep up dying to trash left behind.

Now, I understand lvl 70 players with OP capes and mexed gear can do that, but how can a lvl 20 do that? Are they cheating? And is not because lower levels are stronger because I was way weaker despite being lvl 10

[Mysterymask]

If their main has the achievement for the maxed out cloak then all of their Alts have really strong cloaks

[Donovan4893]

Trial accounts/ accounts without an active subscription can play mop remix but are capped at lvl 20, so people are making lvl 20 twinks that stay at lvl 20 but collect a bunch of threads and due to low lvl scaling it makes them super op.

[ScarletKnives]

If their main has the achievement for the maxed out cloak then all of their Alts have really strong cloaks

But aren't cloaks caped?

Trial accounts/ accounts without an active subscription can play mop remix but are capped at lvl 20, so people are making lvl 20 twinks that stay at lvl 20 but collect a bunch of threads and due to low lvl scaling it makes them super op.

Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

[Gigantique]

But aren't cloaks caped?



Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

Have one account with a locked 20 holy priest that shreds anything in its path.

Queue for dungeons with said priest with the alt you want to level on your main, paid account.

/Follow as your priest destroys the entire dungeons and your alt turbolevels

Profit.

[Fistfighter]

But aren't cloaks caped?



Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

They can farm a modest amount of bronze by spamming HCs

And most importantly, the mode is for having fun, not about "winning"

and trying to make the most OP 20 twink IS objectively fun.

And helping others by carrying them is also fun.

[Mad_Murdock]

Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

I have a couple level 20 twinks. It's was mostly a side item just to fiddle with. I mainly use it to do my daily dungeon and Scenario runs for my main characters. Can complete dungeons in 3 mins or less. Most scenarios in 3-4 mins. If I go in my lvl 70 at 476 it takes longer to clear. Especially if there are other level 65 or fresh 70s.

I haven't taken a survey, but it seems most people like the quick runs, though I understand there are people who get upset the dungeon is completed while their still at the front door chatting with the quest NPCs

[Alroxas]

Now, I understand lvl 70 players with OP capes and mexed gear can do that, but how can a lvl 20 do that?

1 word: Scaling.

Longer explanation: Alts with cloak (assuming main has achieved Infinite Power XII achievement) gives +150 Primary stat, +750 stamina, +150 vers. For a level 20 that's an INSANE amount of player power. Additionally, the stamina bonus also affects some mechanics like the Monk's Touch of Death which makes it an insta-kill on mobs even when the mob is at full HP.

[Donovan4893]

Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

You run 2 wows at the same time and use the twink to boost alts on your main account.

[Tech614]

My dude you're just now learning about twinks? This is not something new or exclusive to remix, just easier to make them there.

[Elanore Maroth]

I have a few alts that I use to clear raids with at low level. I don’t loot the Bonus XP that drops so it goes to my postbox. This makes them level up slowly but gather loads of threads and you get more % of stat per point at lower levels which makes them very powerful. Holy Priest is the most broken class right now at low levels.

This way you can just gather cosmetics and bronze and when you just want to get a max alt and move on to the next one all you have to do is open your mailbox.

[WowIsDead64]

Yerterday while pugging for heroics I saw at least twice lvl 20 characters just curbstomping the dungeon (one of then was a holy priest), so fast rest of players couldnt keep up with speed and keep up dying to trash left behind.

Now, I understand lvl 70 players with OP capes and mexed gear can do that, but how can a lvl 20 do that? Are they cheating? And is not because lower levels are stronger because I was way weaker despite being lvl 10

Well, scaling low level characters up has been implemented to compensate lack of important abilities, such as interrupts, etc. It didn't matter while leveling. But raiding at 20lvl appears to be big problem.

[Kilpi]

Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

What do you think twinks exist for?

[Kathranis]

Trial account twinks. If you create a Remix character on a trial account their exp gets frozen when they hit level 20, but they can keep gaining threads for their cloak and gems for their gear, which allows them to become overpowered the same way you can become overpowered at level 70. With the way that scaling works at lower levels, it makes them even more powerful.

People have been using it to level alts on their main account through heroic dungeons. Open up two instances of WoW, invite your Remix twink to your party, leave the character you're leveling on your main account at the dungeon entrance and don't have them loot anything. Then just blast through the whole dungeon with your twink using stuff like the Chi-Ji meta gem.

Then after you've cleared a certain amount of dungeons, you have the alt you're leveling get all the loot out of their mailbox and they instantly gain a ton of levels from all the EXP threads.

From what I understand, if you do everything as efficiently as possible, you can level an alt from 10-70 in about 1-2 hours using this method.

[aeuhe4yxzhds]

dont have the numbers but it felt much quicker to farm gems with a trial character, running through a dungeon in 2 min over and over again... sigh

[Ladey Gags]

Jesus…I truly can’t believe blizz has created an entire game mode centered around twitchy zoom zoom gogogo degeneracy that systematically destroyed everything that made this game great. How does anyone truly enjoy that type of gameplay, running and one shotting everything? It’s literal brain rot in gameplay form. And for what? Shitty cosmetics from a decade ago that serve as nothing more than a number in a collections tab? How can anyone truly look at themselves staring at their screen partaking in mind numbingly trivial content and say they enjoy that? I just do not understand the modern developer’s vision for this game, and I do not understand how the masses eat this garbage up

[Zardas]

How does anyone truly enjoy that type of gameplay, running and one shotting everything? It’s literal brain rot in gameplay form. And for what? Shitty cosmetics from a decade ago that serve as nothing more than a number in a collections tab? How can anyone truly look at themselves staring at their screen partaking in mind numbingly trivial content and say they enjoy that? I just do not understand the modern developer’s vision for this game, and I do not understand how the masses eat this garbage up

How is it any different that people running old raids to farm tmog ? Do you not understand the appeal in that either ?

[evermynd]

But aren't cloaks caped?



Makes sense, but I dont see them winning anything out of that, unless its for the "OP for a day" feel

You'll notice they are carrying themselves through the dungeon. They use the trial account and their main account to queue together. You can get to max level in about 2 hours. A great way to level any alts you may want.

[pinkz]

cloaks were supposed to have a cap , but new blizzard DEVs never are told or read about past DEVs mistakes on items/systems caps, so they continue.

blizzard decided not to undo the high level cloaks so no cap

what makes the 10-20s OP right away is if you have a player with a 346 ilvl cloak on your account, any new player you create then starts with a 220 ilvl cloak at level 10. but at the start of remix alts were not getting upscaled cloaks based on their main highest level cloak, there was some QQ and this was changed to what it is now

there are players who play F2P 20 and Vet 20, they were not immediately powerful based on scaling, they first had to get their first cloak in the 174-220 ilvl. at that point many started noticing the power of these 20s in dungeons, especially as they reached 346 ilvl cloaks. these 20's were capped but not the cloaks,

i made some 20s using a alt acct, imo it's not scaling that makes them OP, it's the cloak at 346 and with over 10000 threads i have on one of them. i see in dungeons players in the 40 to 60+ level bewildered and make negative comments, problem is their focus is on the rush leveling to 70 where as a XP capped 20 does mostly content to only make the cloak stronger, that a bing bing wahoo leveler is not

[Al Gorefiend]

Have one account with a locked 20 holy priest that shreds anything in its path.

Queue for dungeons with said priest with the alt you want to level on your main, paid account.

/Follow as your priest destroys the entire dungeons and your alt turbolevels

Profit.

Ah so this is what's happening. I went into a dungeon that was 2 curbstompers and 2 afks and I was a blood dk. The enhance and hunter just shredded the place didn't even wait for me, and 2 other ppl just afk at the entrance