Do you currently play the game? (POLL)

[Elanore Maroth]

Yes, I play and I enjoy following the story and doing all the quests. I also enjoy 5 man content and casual normal raid. There were times that I pushed the harder content but now I just enjoy casual play.

[Ghostile]

I realized a long time ago that this game dependency on teams is a big time sink; e.g. I want to raid mythic; well about 80% of the time of raiding mythic was "developing the guilds".

by "developing the guilds" you mean shooting the shit on discord, right? Because that's what we do 80% of the time.

[epigramx]

How do you even out Healer vs. DPS specs in 1v1 Arena?

I already said "buffs on the ground"; i.e. specialized buffs and debuffs to even the field; e.g. a healer would get some damaging and a dps would get some minor healing and a nerf of opponent healing etc.

by "developing the guilds" you mean shooting the shit on discord, right? Because that's what we do 80% of the time.

Part of it yeah. But also what's going on in the field; stopping for several minutes to discuss the next pull; a meeting with officers after or before a raid to discuss core strategies etc (and I didn't mention the GRIND (which is often single-player)).

[Ghostile]

a meeting with officers after or before a raid to discuss core strategies etc (and I didn't mention the GRIND (which is often single-player)).

We uh.. don't do this.
We don't grind either, unless blizzard makes dumb powers that must be grinded.
And even then nobody outside world top 100 will ask you to grind more than comes with its natural weight.

[epigramx]

We uh.. don't do this.
We don't grind either, unless blizzard makes dumb powers that must be grinded.
And even then nobody outside world top 100 will ask you to grind more than comes with its natural weight.

Part of it is inevitable in this game. They have to level; they have to level after max level their basic gear; theoretically that can always be the "same team" doing all those things but it's still not "mythic raiding" until all that initial max level grinding.

Other games you just get thrown into the action; or at least to a larger extend; this game has too much of a carrot on a stick for a promise to even enter the gates for a chance to win the end game and not just for the chance to do it.

[Ghostile]

Part of it is inevitable in this game. They have to level; they have to level after max level their basic gear; theoretically that can always be the "same team" doing all those things but it's still not "mythic raiding" until all that initial max level grinding.

Yeah but that's called playing the game..?

[AudibleEscalation]

I already said "buffs on the ground"; i.e. specialized buffs and debuffs to even the field; e.g. a healer would get some damaging and a dps would get some minor healing and a nerf of opponent healing etc.

I don't really think that would work too well. The roles are just too different today, healers/tanks/dps have different toolkits for a reason. In order for your idea to work, you'd need to start with dummy, "empty template" and then collect buffs to "build you character" during the match (a bit like Torghast, but starting from 0).

And at that point we're talking about completely different game mode, it's not "Arena 1v1" anymore.

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and I didn't mention the GRIND (which is often single-player).

I don't really understand what grind you're referring to here? There really isn't much left anymore.

Part of it is inevitable in this game. They have to level; they have to level after max level their basic gear; theoretically that can always be the "same team" doing all those things but it's still not "mythic raiding" until all that initial max level grinding.

I mean getting to max level - yeah.. but that's not a grind. It's couple of hours of gameplay these days. Getting pre-raid gear is just normal gameplay. Hit some dungeons, craft some stuff. It's the "core content" of the game.

I've said many times, I wouldn't mind a Bnet lobby and direct access to the maps, skipping all world content would be great, but in no shape or form is it a grind these days. Long gone are the days of hitting AP for powergains.

[Lochton]

Yes. Short and frankly. Alaways have. Always will.

Do you actually play? Or do you hope for changes?

Yes. Still do. Always will do, most likely. Played some 26+ MMOs in my life, and keep returning home to Azeroth.

Soon WoW20th, and soon Warcraft30th, enjoyed the adventures since, and still do.

[Lochton]

A poll to accompany the recently posted threat here: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...the-game/page4
Mods can let me know if this is frowned upon, but several of us wondered if we could make this a poll question. I am genuinely curious as to the results. How many here on MMO-C actively play the game, and how many are visiting just for old-times sake? Maybe some are here because they are in contemplation regarding a return to the game. All good, not judging. So... Are you playing the game?

A little odd having a poll separate from the topic, so, gonna make the same reply.

"Yes. Still do. Always will do, most likely. Played some 26+ MMOs in my life, and keep returning home to Azeroth.

Soon WoW20th, and soon Warcraft30th, enjoyed the adventures since, and still do."

[Osmeric]

I didn't preorder, but I came back for MoP Remix, and resubbing at the point involved buying the next expansion as well.

[Celista]

My sub just ran out again a day or so ago. I keep resubbing and then cancelling because I log in and am bored with the game. I was not into Dragonflight or Shadowlands and TWW might be the first expansion where I am not pre-ordering or buying the week of release. I have played the beginning of every expansion minus TBC and am feeling kindof bummed that I am not excited about this expansion.

[kamuimac]

i was on break - came back to finish some stuff in remix , to collect the armors from prepatch and now im on break again till early access starts

in general DF was so shit expansion that i took crazy extensive breaks from playing - havent had such breaks since like wolk - which shows how garbage this expansion is

i so miss BFA and SL when i actualy had reason to play the game outside of first 3 weeks of patch to get portals and then 1 week before next patch to buy AoTC boost if there is mount from it.

overall DF was incredibly garbage expansion - which is praised mostly by people for whome main selling point is " its amamzing cause i dont have to play wow and i can play other games"

trash product is trash .

have 0 hope for TTW - im kinda hyped for cata classic DS patch when it lands and for possible legion remix - hope they choose this one as there is so much transmogs to collect there

[Lolites]

I don't but WILL come back inmediately should Night Elf Paladins ever become a thing.

we should get (almost) all combinations, but yeah, nelf paladins are long overdue

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" its amamzing cause i dont have to play wow and i can play other games"

yeah that was NEVER selling point of DF, thats what morons twisted the "selling point" of not feeling forced to do things into...

but i see why it might be difficult to understand the difference for someone who thinks SL was good... it was second worst expansion to date, after WOD, which frankly was worse only bcs it basicaly had 1 patch less...

[epigramx]

Getting pre-raid gear is just normal gameplay

For some of us it's obscenely dull unless it's very challenging. Anything up to normal raiding you can do by literally watching a show on another screen. Heroic is also extremely dull in the grand scheme of things; that's because it usually depends on the rest of the team failing; a team who take raiding extremely seriously: don't see any challenge until they do at least the final heroic boss or the 3rd or 4th mythic boss.

[AudibleEscalation]

For some of us it's obscenely dull unless it's very challenging. Anything up to normal raiding you can do by literally watching a show on another screen. Heroic is also extremely dull in the grand scheme of things; that's because it usually depends on the rest of the team failing; a team who take raiding extremely seriously: don't see any challenge until they do at least the final heroic boss or the 3rd or 4th mythic boss.

Yeah. But it's not a huge time investment these days anymore and you can start pushing keys when the season kicks off and raids open.

[BrianTheBeast]

I've been subbed non-stop since I started playing in 2006. I took breaks, but annual passes with free mounts and pets made it worth it to pop in and out at will. Only real break from me was WoD. It had potential, but just fell flat for me in the end.

[melodramocracy]

Quit around Thanksgiving of '23, just resubbed so I guess the answer is yes.

[buzer]

No, I might come back for new expansion to play in non competetive way just to see new content but thats it.

[PenguinChan]

I'll come back if/when they remove augmentation, otherwise they can get fucked. Ditto for keystone depletion, which is stifling higher end m+ runs with people sitting on their keys as if they were golden eggs. I want to log in and play, not look for augmentation and 1/2 pre-selected specs that scale the best with it.

Not buying the expansion for the first time since this franchise launched too. I might be in the minority, but this game is not for me anymore and I've given this team enough chances to get their act together and actually deliver some meaningful changes.

At least you are self aware and respect yourself enough to realize you’re burnt out and can’t enjoy the game anymore.

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My sub just ran out again a day or so ago. I keep resubbing and then cancelling because I log in and am bored with the game. I was not into Dragonflight or Shadowlands and TWW might be the first expansion where I am not pre-ordering or buying the week of release. I have played the beginning of every expansion minus TBC and am feeling kindof bummed that I am not excited about this expansion.

Might just be your time to take a break for a few expansions and come back later to see if you just needed time away or to reaffirm it isn’t for you anymore.