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    Unhappy anyone else miss the water elemental?

    water elementals have been an iconic mage spell since at least Warcraft 3 (I don't remember any in the previous games but it's a very long time since I played them). when they finally implemented them in WoW it was great, my frost mage has been accompanied by one ever since. there was even, for a brief time, a bug where you could rename them (sadly when they fixed it they also reset all the renamed ones) and I called mine Puddles
    then somebody had the ridiculous idea that because the min/maxers don't use them they should be turned into a proc instead. the ridiculous part being that this isn't an optional thing, despite them having recently hyped how important it was to give players more choices. instead our loyal water elementals are kidnapped and offered only brief escape from their prisons

    sure, they weren't the highest DPS spec, but I enjoyed having my partner in rime. the ranged frost nova was pretty handy at times too
    playing my mage alt, it just always feels like something is missing now

  2. #2
    I don't really care either way, but your explanation is obviously off.
    Min/maxers would have used the elemental were it better tuned, so again it's just a Blizzard design decision.

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    https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/sound=10...al-impact-base

    "TIME TO BURST SOME NOOBS WITH A SHATTER COMBO LET'S GOOOO!!"

    It was more or less a PvP spell when it came out but yeah, I miss the old Water Elemental. There's a lot of stuff to miss for us old timers, nowadays everybody has a pet and you're just vomiting particle effects on the screen until your target goes down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayvio View Post
    water elementals have been an iconic mage spell since at least Warcraft 3 (I don't remember any in the previous games but it's a very long time since I played them). when they finally implemented them in WoW it was great, my frost mage has been accompanied by one ever since. there was even, for a brief time, a bug where you could rename them (sadly when they fixed it they also reset all the renamed ones) and I called mine Puddles
    then somebody had the ridiculous idea that because the min/maxers don't use them they should be turned into a proc instead. the ridiculous part being that this isn't an optional thing, despite them having recently hyped how important it was to give players more choices. instead our loyal water elementals are kidnapped and offered only brief escape from their prisons

    sure, they weren't the highest DPS spec, but I enjoyed having my partner in rime. the ranged frost nova was pretty handy at times too
    playing my mage alt, it just always feels like something is missing now
    Conjurers would summon them all the way back in Warcraft 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotmail View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/sound=10...al-impact-base

    "TIME TO BURST SOME NOOBS WITH A SHATTER COMBO LET'S GOOOO!!"

    It was more or less a PvP spell when it came out but yeah, I miss the old Water Elemental. There's a lot of stuff to miss for us old timers, nowadays everybody has a pet and you're just vomiting particle effects on the screen until your target goes down.
    "Everybody"... Hunters (unless they are MM), warlocks and UH DK's... Sure, that's everyone.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    "Everybody"... Hunters (unless they are MM), warlocks and UH DK's... Sure, that's everyone.......
    Temporary/Cooldown pets... also count as pets.........

  6. #6
    I miss the mage self heal more.

  7. #7
    It feels way cooler now being active during your (finally impactful) cooldown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caprias View Post
    It feels way cooler now being active during your (finally impactful) cooldown
    I get that some people like the change, that's why I feel it should have been a choice. either the usual water elemental all the time or a proc for a more powerful water elemental some of the time

  9. #9
    Nah just caused problems in dungeons, having it with icy veins is fine.

  10. #10
    Definitely need it at all times it sucks having it on 1.5 min cool down I want my water elemental back

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by rayvio View Post
    I get that some people like the change, that's why I feel it should have been a choice. either the usual water elemental all the time or a proc for a more powerful water elemental some of the time
    Just get so much haste that you prolong icy veins with spellslinger and the thermal void talent to be permanent for a permanent water elemental.

    200 IQ move.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Caprias View Post
    Just get so much haste that you prolong icy veins with spellslinger and the thermal void talent to be permanent for a permanent water elemental.

    200 IQ move.
    you can shorten the cooldown yes we know but permanent new in tww?

  13. #13
    Yeap, it was one of those things that made Frost Mage feel extra-special

  14. #14
    It was fun for flavor and cute to look at, but mechanically... no. I hated having a pet that needs managing. Pets in WoW in general are just super annoying for so many reasons. They're a cool concept and useful in many spots, but they're just such a hassle and have so many issues all the time - not to mention another layer of micromanagement. No thanks.

  15. #15
    It was yet another option they removed. I loved it, even though it was rarely used.

  16. #16
    it does not make any sense that this happened, water elemental has been a basic aspect of mages since warcraft 3, it was their trademark ability, i had never seen a frost mage in wow without water elemental personally, whether in instances or outside in world quests, next remove all warlock demons and all hunter pets too? cause why those classes have that stuff since they dont need them either anyway

    and what was the point of all those glyphs that customized the water elemental? they made all of them just to remove it a little later? its so unstable company cant decide what they want and everything changes completely with every expansion, there is nothing stable or static here even from the most basic stuff

  17. #17
    I would prefer of elementals were exclusively a shaman thing.

  18. #18
    Mage as a class fantasy is extremely boring in wow. They just shoot blue, red or purple bolts at the target, while other classes like druids and shamans can shapeshift, summon creatures, summon nature stuff like huricanes, rain, storms and earthcuakes and heal their allies.

    Removing the water elemental summon just makes them more boring.

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