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    What to do in Emerald Dream?

    I've got DF for free. I've spend around 2 weeks on leveling due to DF being bloated by side-quests the same way, Legion was. Such bloat is bad, cuz then I start to rush to complete them and just stop noticing any story, involved in them. I need to kill something and collect something? Ok, I just do it to complete them ASAP. This is bad. If Blizzard want to make so many side-quests, they should at least implement 2 different quest marks: 1) Quests, that are important and should be completed right now 2) Some unimportant junk, that is about getting to other quest hub for example.

    Now I want to start doing endgame, cuz FOMO is involved there in most cases, like some daily/weekly CDs and some RNG-gated c**p. I wanted to go straight to Emerald Dream, cuz I didn't want to do all intermediate grinds - only last content of xpack, similar to ZM. But... I just don't know, what to do there. What I usually want to do - is to complete campaign and grind BIS gear. Things like mounts/pets aren't so important. And... I don't see any gear WQs there. And items, that were given to me for completing campaign - were green junk, that were worse, than gear I had already got during leveling. Is there any better gear to obtain there? Yeah, there is upgrade system there. Should I upgrade that green gear or I shouldn't waste my currencies on it, as I will get better gear later?

    Is there some sort of guide? I looked for it at WowHead, but didn't find anything useful. There definitely was such guide, but it was most likely released by patch release and it's now buried under year of other news.
    FOMO, gating, RNG, grind, overtuning, competition - endgame.
    Solo MMO: no more humiliating queues and toxic competing.
    Aggro and combat: game would only be better without obsoleted mechanics.
    DF in a nutshell: GW2 copy-paste with AFK events and nothing to do.

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    2 different quest marks
    Oh, you mean like 'campaign' (main quest line of the expansion) and 'important' and 'local story', and things like that? Did you even open your map?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    Oh, you mean like 'campaign' (main quest line of the expansion) and 'important' and 'local story', and things like that? Did you even open your map?
    This is offtopic here, so I would want to answer only once. Back in old WotLK times we had "quest hub" questing model, that was the best. Then in Cata Blizzard implemented "on a rail" story and many players whined about it. Then in MOP they started to implement "main quest line + side quests" model and at some point they started to mark main quest line via different marks. But problem is - there are important side-quests and unimportant ones, but they all marked the same way. I want to complete Loremaster at least once. And I've used to "clear" my map from exclamation marks, so I tend to complete every quest, I see. So, it really bad, when Blizzard don't make difference between important side-quests, that are still part of story, just aren't that important as main story line, and some junk quests, like some profession leveling quests, "immersion" quests, like "Make a cup of tea just for lulz", etc. Yeah, I would complete all of them at least once. But it would be good idea to complete important side-quests first and complete junk ones later, when I'd already get to endgame content and would have free time to do something else.
    FOMO, gating, RNG, grind, overtuning, competition - endgame.
    Solo MMO: no more humiliating queues and toxic competing.
    Aggro and combat: game would only be better without obsoleted mechanics.
    DF in a nutshell: GW2 copy-paste with AFK events and nothing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WowIsDead64 View Post
    This is offtopic here, so I would want to answer only once. Back in old WotLK times we had "quest hub" questing model, that was the best. Then in Cata Blizzard implemented "on a rail" story and many players whined about it. Then in MOP they started to implement "main quest line + side quests" model and at some point they started to mark main quest line via different marks. But problem is - there are important side-quests and unimportant ones, but they all marked the same way. I want to complete Loremaster at least once. And I've used to "clear" my map from exclamation marks, so I tend to complete every quest, I see. So, it really bad, when Blizzard don't make difference between important side-quests, that are still part of story, just aren't that important as main story line, and some junk quests, like some profession leveling quests, "immersion" quests, like "Make a cup of tea just for lulz", etc. Yeah, I would complete all of them at least once. But it would be good idea to complete important side-quests first and complete junk ones later, when I'd already get to endgame content and would have free time to do something else.
    That would be the difference between important and local. So you follow campaign for the expansion questline, then important for big side stories and then local for local, inconsequential side stories. I'm sure they'll have some markers wrong, but in general, that's how it works. And you can filter more on the map, which I love, because I too hate seeing quest marks when I'm already done (you can even filter quest you did on other characters).

    You're a bit late to do endgame and grind BIS btw, or even get your renowns to max, so just let it go and just have some fun until TWW drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    That would be the difference between important and local. So you follow campaign for the expansion questline, then important for big side stories and then local for local, inconsequential side stories. I'm sure they'll have some markers wrong, but in general, that's how it works. And you can filter more on the map, which I love, because I too hate seeing quest marks when I'm already done (you can even filter quest you did on other characters).

    You're a bit late to do endgame and grind BIS btw, or even get your renowns to max, so just let it go and just have some fun until TWW drops.
    oh he isn't playing TWW. He's playing Dragonflight until Midnight prepatch launches, then he will play TWW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    You're a bit late to do endgame and grind BIS btw, or even get your renowns to max, so just let it go and just have some fun until TWW drops.
    You don't get it. This guy doesn't play current WoW and his BiS is only solo stuff. He only farms years old content and cryes the game isn't singleplayer for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    That would be the difference between important and local. So you follow campaign for the expansion questline, then important for big side stories and then local for local, inconsequential side stories. I'm sure they'll have some markers wrong, but in general, that's how it works. And you can filter more on the map, which I love, because I too hate seeing quest marks when I'm already done (you can even filter quest you did on other characters).

    You're a bit late to do endgame and grind BIS btw, or even get your renowns to max, so just let it go and just have some fun until TWW drops.
    WowIsDead is actually right on time. He doesn't play the latest expansion, he always plays one expansion behind, and grinds whatever there is to grind in the last patch that released from that expansion. He only just got access to DF because it became included in the subscription as of prepatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WowIsDead64 View Post
    So, it really bad, when Blizzard don't make difference between important side-quests, that are still part of story, just aren't that important as main story line, and some junk quests, like some profession leveling quests, "immersion" quests, like "Make a cup of tea just for lulz", etc.
    Can you point out one "side-quest that is still part of story, just isn't that important as main story line", so we can more clearly see what you're talking about ?
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    I always wonder, what does it feel when you make these kind of trolling posts. Do you get off on thinking you're making people upset? Do you laugh when you get dismissed? Do you feel happiness when you go on replying nonsense and denying the clear trolling you're doing? Or just the fact that people are replying at all in ANY manner gives you some sort of good feeling that you're tricking them in a way?
    How would ANYONE believe this nonsense when you're talking about endgame a week before the next expansion. Really. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loveliest View Post
    Or just the fact that people are replying at all in ANY manner gives you some sort of good feeling that you're tricking them in a way?
    Most trolls crave some kind of attention and getting that, good or bad, makes it worth it to them. This one is a prime example of an attention-whor..... ahem... attention-seeking person...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loveliest View Post
    I always wonder, what does it feel when you make these kind of trolling posts. Do you get off on thinking you're making people upset? Do you laugh when you get dismissed? Do you feel happiness when you go on replying nonsense and denying the clear trolling you're doing? Or just the fact that people are replying at all in ANY manner gives you some sort of good feeling that you're tricking them in a way?
    How would ANYONE believe this nonsense when you're talking about endgame a week before the next expansion. Really. Why?
    Humiliation fetish.

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    Closing this as essentially asked and answered.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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