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    Quote Originally Posted by meroes View Post
    Bow:Slash as Sword:?

    Ever heard of an analogy? We did them in elementary school. A throwing knife is not a sword.
    Yes?
    But a sword thrown into your back is still lethal, even if it looks silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardas View Post
    Well feel free to enlighten us with your datas, since you seem to have plenty in your magic bag.
    I will do it, when you show yours;


    You said, and I quote : "i would prefer if they actually have more than one character, for both factions, not making it like we have protagonists of the game"

    Do we have more than one character for both factions or not ?
    No, we have more than one character from ONE faction

    You said and I quote : "Jaina had some backing off from multiple expansions and the RTS". Does Alleria has some backing off from multiple expansions and the RTS or not ?
    She does not

    How many times do i have to tell you that?

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    Narcissism is one helluva drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    I will do it, when you show yours;
    When I show you my what ? Could you quote me so that I know what to devellop ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    No, we have more than one character from ONE faction
    Oh really ? I'm assuming you're talking about Horde ? Haven't really kept up with the spoilers, but aren't Thrall and Gallywix meant to be on the spotlight in this expansion ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    She does not

    How many times do i have to tell you that?
    She does have backing from multiple expansions (Legion, BFA and SL)

    She does have backing from the RTS (War2).

    How many times do I have to tell you that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardas View Post
    When I show you my what ? Could you quote me so that I know what to devellop ?
    your data, you are claiming what i say - my assumptions - are false, so you must have your own data in trying to say shit about other people pov needing data.



    Oh really ? I'm assuming you're talking about Horde ? Haven't really kept up with the spoilers, but aren't Thrall and Gallywix meant to be on the spotlight in this expansion ?
    thrall is a fucking token and even on beta he does jackshit, Gallyix is not even horde anymore, i think you meant Gazloew, but its going nowhere.

    She does have backing from multiple expansions (Legion, BFA and SL)
    If you want to claim BFA and SL appearances are enough of backing up you are being delusional.

    She does have backing from the RTS (War2).
    Yeha i mention that, but i clearly said not nearly enough to characters like Jaina, she was a sidekick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    If you want to claim BFA and SL appearances are enough of backing up you are being delusional.

    Yeha i mention that, but i clearly said not nearly enough to characters like Jaina, she was a sidekick
    She was in,

    WC2
    Tides of darkness
    Beyond the dark portal
    A thousand years of war
    The legion quest on Argus
    Void elf quest in BFA
    Shadows rising
    The sylvanas novel
    And then her recent short story.

    How is this not enough backing?
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    How is this not enough backing?
    Because all of those are minor roles

    like you want to claim she show up in a few paragraphs of a book and a small storyline, like sure, if tis ok for you to shoehorn a character as expansion protagonist and naively believe the entire playerbase will be hyped for this "backing" thats on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    your data, you are claiming what i say - my assumptions - are false, so you must have your own data in trying to say shit about other people pov needing data.
    You're the one claiming stuff mate, the burden of proof falls on you. I'm just calling you out on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    thrall is a fucking token and even on beta he does jackshit, Gallyix is not even horde anymore, i think you meant Gazloew, but its going nowhere.
    And that's supposed to make them "not characters" ? Seems like a personnal judgement to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    If you want to claim BFA and SL appearances are enough of backing up you are being delusional.

    Yeha i mention that, but i clearly said not nearly enough to characters like Jaina, she was a sidekick
    You claimed that Alleria had "no backing up", not that she didn't had "enough backing up". Does she have backing up from Legion onward and war2 or not ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Because all of those are minor roles

    like you want to claim she show up in a few paragraphs of a book and a small storyline, like sure, if tis ok for you to shoehorn a character as expansion protagonist and naively believe the entire playerbase will be hyped for this "backing" thats on you.
    So what we can just never have any new main characters?

    Like what more does some one have to do other then get an audio drama all about, be the focus of a major patch's storyline with a dungeon ending on them, introduces a new race, and be fleshed out in a bunch of novels?
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    So what we can just never have any new main characters?

    Like what more does some one have to do other then get an audio drama all about, be the focus of a major patch's storyline with a dungeon ending on them, introduces a new race, and be fleshed out in a bunch of novels?
    Obviously. Eff’ing. NOT!!! Come on, man! This game can only revolve around Illidan, Arthas, Varian, and Jaina.
    Varian dead mean nothing. Quite obviously we can have flashback quests where we fight with him in the arena!
    Like, what is honestly wrong with you!!!?? We can’t have the story introduce new people and storylines. Retread Arthas and his edgiest of edgelords to ever lord the edge nonstop and we will get back to 200 gagillion billion fillion…million players!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardas View Post
    You're the one claiming stuff mate, the burden of proof falls on you. I'm just calling you out on this.
    I never said it was a fact, it just what i think, there is no calling out here

    if you are certain im wrong, you should have data on your own, otherwise you are on the same field as me

    You claimed that Alleria had "no backing up"
    she have no backing up of multiple expansions and the RTS yes, meaning, she was no major character from the rTS like Jaina was, she show up as a sidecharacter in one rts and the only real backing up was in Legion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    So what we can just never have any new main characters?
    Wow should not have ''main" characters like that, yes, especially when you want to shove a specific faction character as the "warcraft main character" that everyone should care about


    Same problem we had with saurfang in BfA, alliance fanbase didn't give a fuck about him, and why should they? not even many horde players like that storyline, it was wrong to make it the main focus of the expansion.

    This would work if alleria was the protagonist of the alliance side of the story, while horde get something else, and their roles are minor compared to the overal main story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    I never said it was a fact, it just what i think, there is no calling out here
    You said that you could claim that she was not loved by the majority of the playerbase, not that you though she was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    if you are certain im wrong, you should have data on your own, otherwise you are on the same field as me
    I'm not saying that you are right, or wrong, I'm asking you to bring proof of your claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    she have no backing up of multiple expansions and the RTS yes, meaning, she was no major character from the rTS like Jaina was, she show up as a sidecharacter in one rts and the only real backing up was in Legion
    Perhaps it would have been nice to first state clearly your own made up definition of "backing up" before using it then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardas View Post
    You said that you could claim that she was not loved by the majority of the playerbase, not that you though she was.
    I can claim that, there is no rules saying i can't, that is what i think, therefore is my POV, its much more easy to believe a single character will NOT be loved by majorty, there would be very few cases this would be true, by the simple nature of the human being who like different things

    If you think im wrong, too bad, agree to disagree, But if even Thrall had his falls, alleria is a nobody for the majority

    Perhaps it would have been nice to first state clearly your own made up definition of "backing up" before using it then.
    Anyone trying to have a conversation and not just fool around would understand the meaning and not just play semantic "both were in a rts derp derp"

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