[Concept] World of Warcraft: Path of Honor

[Skytotem]

The Horde shouldn't adhere to political correctness.

What are you even fucking talking about? Being 'anti slavery' is somehow political correctness? Is that LEGITIMATELY your point of view on slavery?

[username993720]

My point is Pandaria is already explored. Having new races suddenly pop up when we've already explored the continent doesn't make much sense. Most of the time we explore new continents, we encounter new races or offshoots of existing ones. Rarely do we re-explore an existing location with vastly new races suddenly introduced. The exception for exploring existing locations would be if there was a massive timeskip (AU Draenor) or some sort of event that changes the entire biome (Cataclysm shenanigans or BFA spilling Botani into Barrens).

It's similar to my example of adding Vulpera and Sethekk to Stranglethorn as if they've always been there. It wouldn't make as much sense as say coming across them as new races in a new environment, like Zandalar.

What, you think Quel'thalas and Northrend are going to be completely the same in Midnight and the Last Titan?

Is there any reason why it couldn't be a new continent that is merely inspired by Pandaren cultural roots?

Because there's no reason to copy paste pandaria when we've got pandaria.

Regardless of his design, Taran Zhu's character is clearly rooted in Chinese culture.

And even then, I would say Taran Zhu's design isn't specific to any culture. The plate armor and scarf aren't specifically asian inspired, neither is the decoration of the spirit beads or the emblem on the straw hat. Those are all products of an artist taking creative liberties and just making stuff up.

He's as much of a mish-mash as the Three Storms are in Big Trouble in Little China. The designs are all loosely Asian inspired, with no specific culture in mind. Also similarly, I'd compare it to Raiden from Mortal Kombat, who is supposed to be inspired by (or actually be) the Japanese Thunder God, Raijin, but looks nothing like Raijin's traditional depiction. Instead, Raiden's design is based on, you guessed it, Big Trouble in Little China.

I'm not talking about Taran Zhu. I'm talking about the Shado-Pan:

"The Shado-Pan (or Shado-pan), also known as the "Sword in the Shadows" and the "Watchers on the Wall", are a secretive, elite order of highly disciplined pandaren fighters with a ninja-like culture dedicated to protecting their empire from any threat."

The Mogu may be visually based on Oni, but the race itself is completely rooted in Mongolian culture.

Those are Yaungol.
The Mogu are more like chinese warlords.

What are you even fucking talking about? Being 'anti slavery' is somehow political correctness? Is that LEGITIMATELY your point of view on slavery?

It's irrelevant today and especially in a video game, yet you keep bringing it up. Stop shoving this political awareness everywhere. I'm here for entertainment, not to discuss the rights and wrongs of the world.

[Triceron]

What, you think Quel'thalas and Northrend are going to be completely the same in Midnight and the Last Titan?

Are those locations going to feature many new races we never seen before? Imagine Quel'thalas introducing a new bird race or small animal people or spider people who are suddenly explained as natives of Quel'thalas. would that make sense to you?

I'm not talking about Taran Zhu. I'm talking about the Shado-Pan:

"The Shado-Pan (or Shado-pan), also known as the "Sword in the Shadows" and the "Watchers on the Wall", are a secretive, elite order of highly disciplined pandaren fighters with a ninja-like culture dedicated to protecting their empire from any threat."

Because that role also existed historically in China. They just weren't distinguished by look or title. Chinese assassins would have looked like any regular person, much like modern day CIA operatives don't have a specific 'look' to them, they're intended to blend into society to avoid being noticed. Just like historically, China also had pirates, but they wouldn't have looked like swashbucklers wearing funny hats and peglegs. There was no uniform or look, they were just Chinese people who happened to be pirates.

The modern depiction of Ninjas is also a result of pop culture, not of actual historic reference. Look at how the designs carried into Chinese movies, like Iron Monkey. This is a pop culture twist depicting Wong Fei Hung, a historic Chinese folk hero who never wore Ninja outfits.




Ninjas in Japan actually didn't wear this kind of stuff either. It's all a result of pop culture depictions.

https://www.wayofninja.com/do-ninjas...%20this%20myth.

While there are people who strongly believe that ninjas wore all-black costumes with masks, which revealed only the eyes, historical facts and common sense does not support this myth.

The idea that ninja wore all-black costumes came from prop-handlers of the Kabuki theatre. The black costume was meant to allow prop handlers to blend with the background and look mundane as compared to the actors.


On a side note, you can see the same thing about pop culture influencing the idea of horned or winged 'Viking Helmets'. All that came from promotional material for Wagner's Operas. Historic Vikings never had winged or horned helmets. We still call the horned helmet a Viking Helmet today only because of pop culture, not because of historic accuracy.

Those are Yaungol.
The Mogu are more like chinese warlords.

From Wikipedia:
The conquest by the Mogu in Pandaria resembles the Mongol conquest of China.


At one point in history, the Mongols took over China and established their own dynasty. The Mogu are based on that part of Chinese history, when the Mongols actually control and became royal leaders of the people. These Mongols adopted aspects of Chinese culture to better integrate themselves and rule over the people they've dominated. They learned the Chinese language, they wore Chinese clothing, they adopted Chinese religion and philosophy. The Pandaren relationship with the Mogu parallels the Han people's relationship with their former Mongolian rulers. Similarities basically end there though, since history was a lot more nuanced and the Mongolians weren't exactly tyrannical like the Mogu.

The Yaungol are based on Mongolian Culture. The nomadic lifestyle, living on the steppes, etc.

Two completely different aspects of the same people, represented by two different fictional races.

Because there's no reason to copy paste pandaria when we've got pandaria.

Except your entire theme has little to do with Pandaria. You're intention is to explore new races and culture centered on Japanese themes. Itachi, Tengu, Tanuki and the like don't exist on Pandaria. We've already explored the continent and know what races inhabit those lands.

If you want to explore those kind of races in a Pandaria-like setting, just create a new one that has a historic connection to Pandaria's existing races. No need to revamp Pandaria itself. You're basically trying to fix something that isn't broke, and it just breaks the world itself even more for shoehorning more things into a place that doesn't really need more different races and cultures to explore.

[Skytotem]

It's irrelevant today and especially in a video game, yet you keep bringing it up. Stop shoving this political awareness everywhere. I'm here for entertainment, not to discuss the rights and wrongs of the world.

I'm gonna need you to explain exactly what you think is political about not liking slavery in the Horde