6 weeks in already bored

[demongamertt]

I’ve levelled more characters to max level in the first month of TWW than I did in the first 6 of SL and DF. With the full buff it’s so quick

This, I leveled up 10 alts in like 1 and half week. Most of them only took a couple of ours.


The thing is that most of the people that says the game is not fun and that they don't like numbers and progression(with accountability) are probably looking for a different type of fun...

Wow is fine, the problem is that those people just want to group, chat, press some buttons and pretend to have a win...

Listen I'm all for players just using wow as social network as long as it makes them happy and that's exactly what Blizzard believes, so much so that they brought back Classic/Vanilla and Season of Discovery... They even state in their updates that most of the "new" SoD content is tunned for 20 players but you can bring over to 40 players in to chat, horse around etc... and still be able to easily do the content.

So yeah those people that are tired of the new "demanding" retail wow already have a place they can call their own, so I don't understand why they dont play that instead of complain all expansion long about how retail is not fun anymore.

[munkeyinorbit]

"fully geared" doesnt necesarily means fully geared to ABSOLUTELY BEST GEAR EVER
people can definitely be fully geared in champ (or better from vault) gear from delves at this point, not fully upgraded due to crest though

No it doesn't. There is hero track gear you can get weekly. Champion gear you get from the boxes is not part of fully gearing up. You might as well say "once you get a piece in every slot you are geared up". You can't upgrade all of your hero gear to max with delves so that doesn't matter.

[CasualFilth]

I feel like you've posted this before a week into the expansion...

[Mojo03]

It needs pinnacle and aspirational content

It's still really hinged around "hey you should really work on increasing your gear lvl"

But fails at giving you new things and needs for having that gear

All you get is the same stuff at higher numbers, which is not exciting to most people

You used to be able to do new content when you had better gear (to a point), but that's gone with the seasonal model, and there's still nothing to really need higher gear for outside of higher difficulties, which is quite boring and mostly pointless

[CasualFilth]

I believe the WoW formula has been ran to the ground, they really need to start surprising players. The base model of 4 new zones, 8 new dungeons, 1 raid has become so predictable over these past few expansions; and yeah the seasonal gameplay of opt-in-opt-out isn't helping either. This predictability is kinda WoW's blessing and curse tbh.

I think there should be incentives that are not collecta-thon or PvE/PvP focused. I think a really good one are the GW2 events (anyone remember the Villagers v Ghosts and the Mad Clocktower jumping puzzles?) - these really are repeatable content that people would just do for fun. WoW devs seem to tunnel vision into 'player categories' and content that may cater to them. Who doesn't love a good jumping puzzle? (yeah let the haters hate! if you don't like don't play it?)

[procne]

No it doesn't. There is hero track gear you can get weekly. Champion gear you get from the boxes is not part of fully gearing up. You might as well say "once you get a piece in every slot you are geared up". You can't upgrade all of your hero gear to max with delves so that doesn't matter.

eh, ok. I am sorry I used "fully geared" term. I meant dressed in heroic-raid quality gear in every slot. I fixed my original post. Can we stop the word-lawyering now?

[Celista]

I believe the WoW formula has been ran to the ground, they really need to start surprising players. The base model of 4 new zones, 8 new dungeons, 1 raid has become so predictable over these past few expansions; and yeah the seasonal gameplay of opt-in-opt-out isn't helping either. This predictability is kinda WoW's blessing and curse tbh.

I think there should be incentives that are not collecta-thon or PvE/PvP focused. I think a really good one are the GW2 events (anyone remember the Villagers v Ghosts and the Mad Clocktower jumping puzzles?) - these really are repeatable content that people would just do for fun. WoW devs seem to tunnel vision into 'player categories' and content that may cater to them. Who doesn't love a good jumping puzzle? (yeah let the haters hate! if you don't like don't play it?)

Definitely! A lot of holiday events can be updated a bit more too. I also liked zone invasions, reminded me of Rift.

Additionally, there has been zero RP support for WoW by Blizzard (besides allowing for third party RP addons). I am not an RPer but I have spent time on Moon Guard in the past (not just in the Goldshire inn lol) and there is a whole lot of missed opportunity there. A small percentage of the playerbase engages in that type of content, but I do think it is because in part it is so unsupported.

I really do like some of the newer events separate to retail (Plunderstorm, MoP remix) and I hope the game continues adding events like these.

[Zorachus]

[MrLachyG]

ok aside from the fact that you don't know how to link properly, 8's are easy. Delves are chill; no timer, do them with friends and they are a piece of cake.

[kamuimac]

Was chatting with my daughter ( she's been playing WoW since Legion ) myself since launch. and we both were talking about TWW expansion, and how it's great there's a new continent and new zones to explore and level up, etc...

But then I asked how come she hasn't been logging in lately? She said she's bored, has 2 level 80's and just losing interest with not much to do. I said the same, I have 3 level 80s my main is i609 and alts i580+ but I log in this past week, and think, ok...what to do? What do I want to do? Run a Raid? Hell no. Run a M+ dungeon, maybe but not in the mood for potential drama or the rush rush, go, go, go mentality in a PUG. Ok I'll just do the weekly World Boss and weekly cache quests.

For both my daughter and I, 6 weeks might be a record for us to have this "I'm bored already" discussion of a new WoW expansion. With DL this didn't happen for a few months, same with Shittylands it was quick though 2 months and i was bored, and much longer for BfA like6+ months into it until I was "bored" and Legion we never though that in Legion, the best of the newer expansions.

if you refuse to take part in endgame ? then unsub .

simplest solutions works best.

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No it doesn't. There is hero track gear you can get weekly. Champion gear you get from the boxes is not part of fully gearing up. You might as well say "once you get a piece in every slot you are geared up". You can't upgrade all of your hero gear to max with delves so that doesn't matter.

technicaly - yes you can - it would require doing like milion of dvelves for map farm to get 3 myth track crests from it but yeah - you can.

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Delves are boring as fuck. I don't play an MMORPG to have a single player experience, I'd rather play a game that is actually single player and gives a good single player experience. Imagine playing WoW like it's a single player game, I would get bored in a matter of days, let alone 6 weeks.

Take out raiding because it's hard. Take out M+ because you don't enjoy "drama" and shit. Take out PVP because "PVP bad", and what do you have left?! FUCKING SINGLE PLAYER SHIT that you a pay sub to. PATHETIC!

you do realise most of people play dvelves in classic 5 man format 1-1-3 ? not solo .

[MrLachyG]

technicaly - yes you can - it would require doing like milion of dvelves for map farm to get 3 myth track crests from it but yeah - you can.

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I got a map very early on when they became available... since then? nothing. and I've done at least 25 delves over the last few weeks... guessing they are a rare drop.

[Kyphael]

That's four more weeks than I would have lasted, so kudos. The very sight of Xal'atath and hearing her talk menacingly is like Tylenol PM to me. I will give her this, she's nowhere near as bad as that loser Fyrrak from Dragonflight who wasn't as boring as much as he was annoying.

[AudibleEscalation]

That's four more weeks than I would have lasted, so kudos. The very sight of Xal'atath and hearing her talk menacingly is like Tylenol PM to me. I will give her this, she's nowhere near as bad as that loser Fyrrak from Dragonflight who wasn't as boring as much as he was annoying.

Strong feelings about pixels. Damn.

[Lolites]

Delves are boring as fuck. I don't play an MMORPG to have a single player experience

yeah, they should make delves doable in group!
oh, wait, they already are...

Take out raiding because it's hard. Take out M+ because you don't enjoy "drama" and shit. Take out PVP because "PVP bad", and what do you have left?!

look at formula1, take out monoposts, track, drivers, mechanics, and what you have? open field? what does that have to do with racing!!

[Ithekro]

Pretty much every expansion since CATA I have taken time off in the middle. (Started in the middle of TBC). Not as much to do, or at least not much that wasn't raiding.
I took less time off in MoP and WoD as I was interesting in the Legendary quests and the stories as they came out, but still took significant breaks after finishing story content and doing the raid once or twice with my guild. Legion was a trip, but with a new job I had less time to play, but still managed to play catchup by the time we went to Argus.

BFA...the start was fun, but the endless Azerite grind and work meant I took about a year off, coming back from Christmas each year and at the starts and ends of expansions from BFA to Dragonflight. Shadowlands was a good though frustrating start, but after getting to some goal with the Bastion story completed I more or less did nothing with it until just before Dragonflight started and did rapid fire campaign questing for the story and almost nothing else. But Dragonflight changed something. While I still took a long time off, the announcement of the World Soul Saga led me to play a lot more than I had since Legion. I even started leveling alts that had languished since CATA and MoP, all up to 70. Even made new alts for MoP Remix and geared all of them out in the pre-launch event. Now I'm still playing. More or less how I played in Wrath...goal oriented, but also sometimes using alts again. The Warband system has helped a lot with that, as it gives me ideas on how to plan some professions crafting stuff, plus a new bank to store things. Mostly working on my long time Warlock main I've had since TBC, but also using a Priest made during Wrath. Plus started an Earthen Paladin to see how leveling in the Dragon Isles is for a new character. So, I have stuff to do. I don't have a lot of time to play. Maybe two nights a week. Maybe a few hours late at night on other days if I feel the need to accomplish something. Giving myself goals...even if they are just to get alts to level 80 and get them all to a point where their professions can cross pollinate to get gear, is something more than what I have done since WoD or Legion...maybe even Wrath.

[Fitsu]

Was chatting with my daughter ( she's been playing WoW since Legion ) myself since launch. and we both were talking about TWW expansion, and how it's great there's a new continent and new zones to explore and level up, etc...

But then I asked how come she hasn't been logging in lately? She said she's bored, has 2 level 80's and just losing interest with not much to do. I said the same, I have 3 level 80s my main is i609 and alts i580+ but I log in this past week, and think, ok...what to do? What do I want to do? Run a Raid? Hell no. Run a M+ dungeon, maybe but not in the mood for potential drama or the rush rush, go, go, go mentality in a PUG. Ok I'll just do the weekly World Boss and weekly cache quests.

For both my daughter and I, 6 weeks might be a record for us to have this "I'm bored already" discussion of a new WoW expansion. With DL this didn't happen for a few months, same with Shittylands it was quick though 2 months and i was bored, and much longer for BfA like6+ months into it until I was "bored" and Legion we never though that in Legion, the best of the newer expansions.

I mean it kinda sounds like you've just grown bored of WoW. Was there anything you was doing in past expansions that your not doing now?

Legion was your Daughters first expansion and being able to experience that with her brought life back into the game.
BFA was probably quite refreshing as well, as now she came into it with a level of experience.

From there the charm has just worn off as time has passed. Maybe try different roles? When I got bored of WoW I started tanking and suddenly felt like I was playing a different game. I'm even considering healing or trying Aug.

[AtomR]

You are definetly built differently. For example the obsessive feeling of "need" you attributed to AP grinding, particulatly uneeded grinding of content you hated is a quality frequently asssociated with sociopaths. Perhaps therapy is needed.

it really isn't. It's probably more associated with addiction but, like you, i'm not a therapist to be able to know and am just pulling facts out of my ass.

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This, I leveled up 10 alts in like 1 and half week. Most of them only took a couple of ours.


The thing is that most of the people that says the game is not fun and that they don't like numbers and progression(with accountability) are probably looking for a different type of fun...

Wow is fine, the problem is that those people just want to group, chat, press some buttons and pretend to have a win...

Listen I'm all for players just using wow as social network as long as it makes them happy and that's exactly what Blizzard believes, so much so that they brought back Classic/Vanilla and Season of Discovery... They even state in their updates that most of the "new" SoD content is tunned for 20 players but you can bring over to 40 players in to chat, horse around etc... and still be able to easily do the content.

So yeah those people that are tired of the new "demanding" retail wow already have a place they can call their own, so I don't understand why they dont play that instead of complain all expansion long about how retail is not fun anymore.

being stuck in past content is also not really fun either.

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No it doesn't. There is hero track gear you can get weekly. Champion gear you get from the boxes is not part of fully gearing up. You might as well say "once you get a piece in every slot you are geared up". You can't upgrade all of your hero gear to max with delves so that doesn't matter.

Everyone decides what "fully geared up" means to them. Usually, if I don't do mythic raids and go up to m+12 (in older expansions) that's the ilvl cap I consider fully geared up. And no, doing content to unlock one single vault items a week is not part of the consideration because that would really be insane to depend on that shitty rng once a week to get a full gear.

[Soimu]

What did you expect. Of course it is a boring expansion, there is no innovation it is just the same crap all over again under a different skin (zone). This expansion feels more like a Dragonflight patch.
WOW nowadays is just a lot of useless farming with a lot of fomo made to keep you busy.

[AtomR]

I really do like some of the newer events separate to retail (Plunderstorm, MoP remix) and I hope the game continues adding events like these.

The problem is that those events exclude people's main and alts. If i'm not playing my main and alts and i'm not seeing new story I might aswel just play another game which is what i do tbh. Especially thunderstorm which wasn't even recognisable as a wow activity.

[Zorachus]

What did you expect. Of course it is a boring expansion, there is no innovation it is just the same crap all over again under a different skin (zone). This expansion feels more like a Dragonflight patch.
WOW nowadays is just a lot of useless farming with a lot of fomo made to keep you busy.

Pretty much this