Tuning Hotfixes Coming Today - October 22

[Lumy]

Tuning Hotfixes Coming Today - October 22

As we developed patch 11.0.5, we made some changes for Arcane Mage and Frost Death Knight that were intended to mostly be quality-of-life improvements. After further analysis and feedback, it’s clear that without additional adjustments, these two specs would gain substantial buffs.

Today, we’re making tuning changes via hotfixes to offset the extra gains in throughput.

Death Knight

• Blood
  
  • Deathbringer: Reaper’s Mark initial and stacking damage reduced by 22%.
  • Deathbringer: Exterminate damage reduced by 22%.
  • Deathbringer: Wave of Souls damage reduced by 22% (does not apply to PvP combat).
• Frost
  
  • Deathbringer: Reaper’s Mark initial and stacking damage reduced by 22%.
  • Deathbringer: Exterminate damage reduced by 22%.
  • Deathbringer: Wave of Souls damage reduced by 22% (does not apply to PvP combat).
  • Obliterate damage reduced by 6% (does not apply to PvP combat).
  • Breath of Sindragosa damage reduced by 10%.
  • Icy Death Torrent damage reduced by 12% (does not apply to PvP combat).

Mage

• Arcane
  
  • Sunfury: Spellfire Sphere spell damage bonus for Arcane Mages reduced to 1% (was 2%).
  • Sunfury: Lingering Embers spell damage bonus for Arcane Mages reduced to 1% (was 2%).
  • Sunfury: Glorious Incandescence Arcane Barrage damage bonus reduced to 20% (was 30%).
  • Sunfury: Mana Cascade now grants 0.5% Haste for Arcane Mages (was 1%).
  • Spellslinger - Splintering Orbs Splinter generation cap per orb reduced to 4 for Arcane Mages (was 6).
  • Arcane Blast damage reduced by 10%.
  • Arcane Barrage damage reduced by 10%.

We’re also planning tuning for other specs, to be implemented with weekly maintenance next week (30 October), and we’ll have more specifics to share on that in a few days.

[korijenkins]

God forbid frost DK be relevant for even a single patch cycle.

[stoffe]

The protest in LFG paid off! well done everyone! Together WE got the power!

[Tech614]

God forbid frost DK be relevant for even a single patch cycle.

Still great with rider, non breath build which is the more fun spec to play anyways so not sure why you're crying.

Blood catching a stray nerf when their dps is already terribad is way more offensive, Frost is still crazy good.

[Rustykeyboard]

No way blizz did this, and frost dk got so many heavy nerfs in BETA aswell.
Spending so much time to research on how to play and gear frost dk.
Spending 100k+ gold on crafted gear and consumables.
Spending hundreds of hours in dungeons; farming gear and crests.

Only to be nerfed like this.

FEELS F*CKING BAD MAN

[Engal]

No way blizz did this, and frost dk got so many heavy nerfs in BETA aswell.
Spending so much time to research on how to play and gear frost dk.
Spending 100k+ gold on crafted gear and consumables.
Spending hundreds of hours in dungeons; farming gear and crests.

Only to be nerfed like this.

FEELS F*CKING BAD MAN

DH Havoc is this x10. So forgive me if I don't care.

We didn't even have a whole month before getting nerfed, we just had days, and for nothing in the end.

[ImAnALtOfYou]

No way blizz did this, and frost dk got so many heavy nerfs in BETA aswell.
Spending so much time to research on how to play and gear frost dk.
Spending 100k+ gold on crafted gear and consumables.
Spending hundreds of hours in dungeons; farming gear and crests.

Only to be nerfed like this.

FEELS F*CKING BAD MAN

What? Your op spec was getting buffs when they're already... Op.

Other classes spend 100k plus gold (which is nothing lmao) and hundreds of hours etc on nerfed classes and remain nerfed lmao

[agentsi]

DH Havoc is this x10. So forgive me if I don't care.

We didn't even have a whole month before getting nerfed, we just had days, and for nothing in the end.

Jesus christ cry more than you aren't 10% stronger than the next melee class... Easily the strongest DPS melee in the game atm, and you got a slight rework to make you stronger and the gameplay more fluid... this was simply to make sure you aren't even more overpowered and you're still crying. Get a grip.

[Doffen]

Mostly sunfury nerfs, as I am mostly playing spellslinger we'll look at some nice buff coming tomorrow.

[jeba28]

And they call it "mostly be quality-of-life improvements" i realy get sick and tired of all those nerfs and buffs week in and week out.

[Ange]

No way blizz did this, and frost dk got so many heavy nerfs in BETA aswell.
Spending so much time to research on how to play and gear frost dk.
Spending 100k+ gold on crafted gear and consumables.
Spending hundreds of hours in dungeons; farming gear and crests.

Only to be nerfed like this.

FEELS F*CKING BAD MAN

First Acherus numbers:
ST -0.3% for Frost BoS

[deenman]

buff ret pls

[Hellfury]

buff ret pls

dont forget to put the /s at the end else ppl think you are trolling or even worst a real request.

[Jastall]

Blood catching a stray nerf when their DPS is already mediocre at best is pretty silly, considering Blizz had ample capacity to tune both specs separately. Then again this is the same patch that nerfs DPS warrior's AoE despite them being nothing spectacular in M+ and does jack shit for Fury's abysmal ST DPS. I feel the tuning job for this season is particularly poor to be honest. Not a dealbreaker as I don't play at a level where it truly matters but still annoying at times.

[thunderdragon2]

God forbid frost DK be relevant for even a single patch cycle.

they should NEVER have gotten the buffs they are getting now revert the stupid arcane mage buffs

[Sinte]

No way blizz did this, and frost dk got so many heavy nerfs in BETA aswell.
Spending so much time to research on how to play and gear frost dk.
Spending 100k+ gold on crafted gear and consumables.
Spending hundreds of hours in dungeons; farming gear and crests.

Only to be nerfed like this.

FEELS F*CKING BAD MAN

What are you crying about, they're literally just taking back the unnecessary buffs from the same patch. You literally lost something like 0.3% damage while gaining huge QoL changes. You're as mindless as your spec.

[Engal]

Jesus christ cry more than you aren't 10% stronger than the next melee class... Easily the strongest DPS melee in the game atm, and you got a slight rework to make you stronger and the gameplay more fluid... this was simply to make sure you aren't even more overpowered and you're still crying. Get a grip.

You have really no clue of what you're talking about. And this kind of argument is one of the reason class balance is so shit.

Its not normal that a dps spec can be Orange parsed by doing LESS damage than other spec in the same group that deals way more damage and that are blue parsed.

[agentsi]

You have really no clue of what you're talking about. And this kind of argument is one of the reason class balance is so shit.

Its not normal that a dps spec can be Orange parsed by doing LESS damage than other spec in the same group that deals way more damage and that are blue parsed.

It's okay to be wrong, you can try again.

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/death_...stingpatchwerk

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38

https://www.archon.gg/wow?utm_campai...tm_medium=link

https://www.archon.gg/wow/tier-list/...hic/all-bosses

Top melee dps Frost dk. 3 different sources, and its still number 1. It's theoretical damage, is much higher than most other melee classes when played correctly. Just because you aren't doing it, doesn't mean it isn't possible.