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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    The guy you quoted was very obviously referencing that as a non sequitur. Because why be reasonable about the topic at hand when you can just begrudge Blizzard for the rest of your life and be unreasonable about everything instead?

  2. #42
    Great! Also nice to have a short, comprehensive list of what rewards tokens in the first place.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    No. In fact, you should unsubscribe indefinitely and spend the rest of your life picketing Blizzard HQ until they give you the contents of your guild bank back. I would also strongly advise you to band together as many similarly disillusioned WoW players as you can so that you guys can start an armed militia that you can use to overthrow the tyrannical dictatorship currently in charge of Blizzard. Anything less than total subservience to the people is unacceptable.

    edit: my lawyer (who is definitely not Ion Hazzikostas) has once again informed me that I must clarify that this post is actually sarcasm
    My post was ever so slightly ironical as well. Do you think our respective lawyers could be twinsies?

  4. #44
    so essentially... instert homer at moes bar meme here with everyone in the 2nd tier armour tomorrow.

    original was fine, it lasts until jan.... eesh show some restraint (you adhd riddled new gen) and allow them to do essential things like fixing all the bugs including ice crown

  5. #45
    Is this live already?

  6. #46
    Blizzard made weeklies so buggy with TWW. None of my pvp quests are rewarding bronze celebration tokens, the quest from doing a lesser keyflame didn't reward a bronze celebration token this week, the Original Path Through Time quest isn't available for characters that did it last week.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Blizzard needs to hit a floating target between retention mechanic and engaging content. Shoot too far one way and players will feel obligated to no-life content and will burn themselves out, leading to attrition. Too far in the other direction and you get the forum megaminds pointing out that their time gates are, in fact, retention mechanisms. The sweet spot is somewhere in the middle but this target will change depending on tons of mitigating factors which are insanely difficult to predict. (How many players will engage in the content? Do players actually like the content? Are the rewards sufficient?) I think they hit more than they miss but if you view their track record through the lens of forum feedback, it's understandable to come away with a slightly more cynical outlook.

    In retrospect, they have been (at least recently) pretty good about communicating the reasons why they may miss the mark on this stuff. But the truth is no amount of communication from Blizzard will help players who just want a reason to justify their dissatisfaction. All we can hope is that they learn from the past and make quick adjustments when reality fails to line up with expectations.
    What do you mean hit more than miss? They missed the mark with every single event in the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deplorable View Post
    so essentially... instert homer at moes bar meme here with everyone in the 2nd tier armour tomorrow.

    original was fine, it lasts until jan.... eesh show some restraint (you adhd riddled new gen) and allow them to do essential things like fixing all the bugs including ice crown
    So if it lasted 2 years would it be ok to have 1 token per week?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    What do you mean hit more than miss? They missed the mark with every single event in the last few years.
    source: guy who's entire online persona is defined by being dissatisfied with Blizzard products

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    source: guy who's entire online persona is defined by being dissatisfied with Blizzard products
    Source: nerfs within 1 week, the pre-patch one was adjusted even faster
    How do you call it a hit when it needs adjustments, sometimes massive?

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    Source: massive nerfs within 1 week, the pre-patch one was adjusted even faster
    Brother. If you got whooshed any harder, we'd have to install whoosh proof crumple zones on your internet browser.

    Quote Originally Posted by kranur View Post
    How do you call it a hit when it needs adjustments, sometimes massive?
    Improve your reading comprehension skills. I didn't say this was a hit. I said that they have a tendency to hit more than they miss recently. There have been versions of Blizzard's past where the developers were reluctant to change anything for any reason and would leave the game in a truly dire state for extended periods of time (SL Season 1); at least now they're willing to make adjustments when necessary and generally seem to have their fingers on the pulse of player feedback. Like I said, Blizzard is never going to hit the mark dead on for the whole playerbase but they're trying.
    Last edited by Relapses; 2024-10-29 at 11:18 PM.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by deplorable View Post
    so essentially... instert homer at moes bar meme here with everyone in the 2nd tier armour tomorrow.

    original was fine, it lasts until jan.... eesh show some restraint (you adhd riddled new gen) and allow them to do essential things like fixing all the bugs including ice crown
    Except everyone is going to get their first set this week anyway, regardless of this buff. This buff helps people get the other twelve sets faster.

    The cost for the sets are 60 for the first, 40 for the second, and then 20 for the remaining 11. That is 320 tokens. Most people aren't going to do everything, and they will land on around 30 a week based on the old numbers. That means it'll take around 11 weeks of doing it as a chore for the entirety of the event and only completing it at the very end. And then there's a chance you'll miss out if you don't hit 30 tokens a week.

  12. #52
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    so when you hit 100 tokens for the achievement "repeatable activities" award tokens. so far it looks like these are timewalking classic dungeons and the codex of chromie. was hoping it would mean that doing the activities on alts would give them but haven't checked that yet

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