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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Geckoo View Post
    I'm not against the ring itself, i'm against the ring becoming the X.0.7 system by default with no expectation for it to last more than that mini patch. Expansions have always been formulaic, but to me a borrowed power system expected to last 3 months should not be a selling point for a patch
    I honestly don't understand why a 3 month borrowed power item shouldn't be a selling point for a 3 month mini patch. I get that you aren't exactly thrilled by it, but if there are people who enjoy those kind of things, than it's a great selling point. Or is the expectation that everything advertised in the patch preview should be aimed at a specific type of player...? Is there anything inherently wrong with the ring that disqualifies it from being a selling point of the patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    ughh can we... STOP doing this same TIRED ASS storyline with literally.. EVERY. FUCKING. CHARACTER? The Horde did this in MoP. The Horde did this in WoD. The Horde did this in Legion's intro. The Horde did this at the end of BFA. The Alliance did this at the end of BFA. The covenants did this in almost EVERY patch of Shadowlands -- Same with all the Dragonflights in Dragonflight. Anduin has done this several times. Jaina has done this several times. Sylvanas has done this twice. Thrall has done this in Wrath, Cata, MoP, and BFA. And what past mistakes..?! Kael'thas and Kel'thuzad have been fucking dead for YEARS. No one gives a shit about them right now. Their city got fucking blown up. What future course decision? They'll just obviously return to Lordaeron and rebuild the city. Smh. How about focus on something new..? Khadgar will likely step down, Modera steps up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    Some of you people are so weird

    They aren't doing it out of kindness and care so the community has things to do

    They're literally making the content so people stay subbed so they make money. If they don't keep content coming regularly they lose subs/cash shop money, hence why this exists

    If people don't like it, they don't like it. Personally, I think the patch looks uninteresting.

    So weird and culty to shame and treat people like they're ungrateful for not being interested in things a corporation wants your money for.
    Oh my god a company wants to make money? How dare they? Genuine question: is capitalism a foreign concept to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    Oh my god a company wants to make money? How dare they? Genuine question: is capitalism a foreign concept to you?
    Never mind that, does he understand the concept of 'small' vs' large' patches? lol

    Some of these people would still bitch if Blizzard handed them a sackful of money yapping about how heavy the sack is gg blizz. lmao

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Rageonit View Post
    I honestly don't understand why a 3 month borrowed power item shouldn't be a selling point for a 3 month mini patch. I get that you aren't exactly thrilled by it, but if there are people who enjoy those kind of things, than it's a great selling point. Or is the expectation that everything advertised in the patch preview should be aimed at a specific type of player...? Is there anything inherently wrong with the ring that disqualifies it from being a selling point of the patch?
    Because i consider extra power systems that go on top of the usual power systems (regular gear, trinkets, tier and well, your class) to work better either as something that will be with the player for a long journey (expansion) or as something that is intended to be a big power bump at the end of that same long journey. By making the ring an early mini-patch system, designed to be obsolote shortly after the next season starts, you risk having a good fun system that doesn't last long enough when we are still on the same journey.

    And in this particular case to me this is not a selling point because well... there is nothing new abou it, it's just the onyx annulet but with a 3D model. So i know what to expect, the good and the bad.
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  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Geckoo View Post
    And in this particular case to me this is not a selling point because well... there is nothing new abou it, it's just the onyx annulet but with a 3D model. So i know what to expect, the good and the bad.
    New raids, dungeons, zones etc. etc. aren't exactly a new thing, either, yet all of those things are THE selling points for many players - specifically for players who enjoy that type of content.

    So if there are players who enjoyed onyx annulet as a short term, but fun borrowed power thing, this is probably a good selling point for them.

    Anyway, we're fixating on a single addition in a preview that advertised plenty of other content: a new zone, questline conclusions, events, secrets, tmogs, mounts and probably some other things I've missed. And while none of that is ground breaking, the usual things that keep players subbed aren't either. It's the formulaic nature of seasons, whether players want to admit that or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rageonit View Post
    New raids, dungeons, zones etc. etc. aren't exactly a new thing, either, yet all of those things are THE selling points for many players - specifically for players who enjoy that type of content.

    So if there are players who enjoyed onyx annulet as a short term, but fun borrowed power thing, this is probably a good selling point for them.

    Anyway, we're fixating on a single addition in a preview that advertised plenty of other content: a new zone, questline conclusions, events, secrets, tmogs, mounts and probably some other things I've missed. And while none of that is ground breaking, the usual things that keep players subbed aren't either. It's the formulaic nature of seasons, whether players want to admit that or not.
    Well i wouldn't say that the presence of new zones, dungeons and raids is a selling point for an expansion. Sure, a first impression of the specific zones or themes can be, but them existing in a new expansion is just expected. I mean, i don't know what zones, dungeons and raids the last titan will have and still i know that there will be new zones, new dungeons and new raids, to the point that i could ignore every piece of information and just jump straight into the game whenever it releases and find it pretty normal that i'm playing throug new zones and joining new dungeons.

    But in the end my opinion about smaller borrowed power systems is just that, my opinion, if there are players that find the ring to be exciting well, good for them!

    And just to be clear, i think the patch is fine for what it is, even if i dislike how the zone looks and them reusing the ring looks lazy in my eyes.
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    Island fatigue

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    11.0.7 PTR just patched to 11.0.7 from 11.0.2.

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