World of Warcraft: The Last Titan, not actually the last?

[vertigo12]

I think the Titans will die by the hands of the old gods. Iridikron already said he's baiting them. Metzen confirmed they are returning.

I think we'll need to counter the Hour of Twilight by activating the dragonshrines and things will play out like they did in End times dungeon. However we will need a titan.

The only titan left will be Sargeras. So he will be needed. When the avengers need Loki type moment.

The titan Pantheon are fake and sham

The First Ones granted "wonders" to the titans of the Pantheon of Order in Zereth Ordus. The titans' servants on Azeroth, the keepers, are aware of the First Ones' existence, but Keeper Odyn long ago forbade his kin from sharing any knowledge of the First Ones with the mortal races, as he believed that this knowledge would only overwhelm and confuse them.[37] The brokers have accused the Pantheon of Order of claiming credit for creating the cosmos when they in fact only inherited it. The titan language uses the same word for "created" as it does for "Ordered";[38] Keeper Odyn believes that something can not be truly said to exist until it has been ordered, and that it is therefore not inaccurate to claim that the titans are responsible for all of creation.[37] The Chronicle books, a series of tomes written by servants of the titans[39] (and which the broker Ta'lora have accused of being titan-forged propaganda written to present the Pantheon of Order in a favorable light)[38] claim that the First Ones are a myth invented by the inhabitants of the Shadowlands.[9]

[Joshuaj]

I think the Titans will die by the hands of the old gods. Iridikron already said he's baiting them. Metzen confirmed they are returning.

I think we'll need to counter the Hour of Twilight by activating the dragonshrines and things will play out like they did in End times dungeon. However we will need a titan.

The only titan left will be Sargeras. So he will be needed. When the avengers need Loki type moment.

"The Titans will die to the Old Gods"

What type of 2007 statement is this?

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The titan Pantheon are fake and sham

The First Ones granted "wonders" to the titans of the Pantheon of Order in Zereth Ordus. The titans' servants on Azeroth, the keepers, are aware of the First Ones' existence, but Keeper Odyn long ago forbade his kin from sharing any knowledge of the First Ones with the mortal races, as he believed that this knowledge would only overwhelm and confuse them.[37] The brokers have accused the Pantheon of Order of claiming credit for creating the cosmos when they in fact only inherited it. The titan language uses the same word for "created" as it does for "Ordered";[38] Keeper Odyn believes that something can not be truly said to exist until it has been ordered, and that it is therefore not inaccurate to claim that the titans are responsible for all of creation.[37] The Chronicle books, a series of tomes written by servants of the titans[39] (and which the broker Ta'lora have accused of being titan-forged propaganda written to present the Pantheon of Order in a favorable light)[38] claim that the First Ones are a myth invented by the inhabitants of the Shadowlands.[9]

None of this makes them fake.

[Elfezen]

Doesn't The Last Titan refer to Sargeras? he is the last remaining full titan who is alive, kind of like The Lord of the Rings refering to the villain Sauron

I think the Titans will die by the hands of the old gods. Iridikron already said he's baiting them. Metzen confirmed they are returning.

I think we'll need to counter the Hour of Twilight by activating the dragonshrines and things will play out like they did in End times dungeon. However we will need a titan.

The only titan left will be Sargeras. So he will be needed. When the avengers need Loki type moment.

All of the Old Gods are dead, we killed them and Xa'latath confirmed it, and even all of them together would not stand a chance against any of the pantheon titans, the only reason why they were not killed immediately was because they were hiding in Azeroth and the titans would hurt it (as it was shown when Y'shraaj was forcefully ripped off by the hand of a titan)

The titan Pantheon are fake and sham

The First Ones granted "wonders" to the titans of the Pantheon of Order in Zereth Ordus. The titans' servants on Azeroth, the keepers, are aware of the First Ones' existence, but Keeper Odyn long ago forbade his kin from sharing any knowledge of the First Ones with the mortal races, as he believed that this knowledge would only overwhelm and confuse them.[37] The brokers have accused the Pantheon of Order of claiming credit for creating the cosmos when they in fact only inherited it. The titan language uses the same word for "created" as it does for "Ordered";[38] Keeper Odyn believes that something can not be truly said to exist until it has been ordered, and that it is therefore not inaccurate to claim that the titans are responsible for all of creation.[37] The Chronicle books, a series of tomes written by servants of the titans[39] (and which the broker Ta'lora have accused of being titan-forged propaganda written to present the Pantheon of Order in a favorable light)[38] claim that the First Ones are a myth invented by the inhabitants of the Shadowlands.[9]

None of these are fake, in the original lore Aman'Thul was basically the equivalent of "God" in warcraft and Sargeras the equivalent of "Satan", (Odyn is just a titan keeper construct like the egyptian ones in Halls of Origination or Ra'den in Pandaria), but later with the Chronicles they expanded the lore further and made Light/Void the highest authorities, and then with Shadowlands they expanded it even further and made "The First Ones" the equivalent of "God", whatever those beings are they seem to be above the Void Lords and anything else so far in hierarchy (they might even be a singular being kind of like the Trinity), we saw some of their leftover projects in Shadowlands patch area too, and some other original versions of the Eternal Ones (afterlife council) which they made.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I think the Titans will die by the hands of the old gods. Iridikron already said he's baiting them. Metzen confirmed they are returning.

The Old Gods are dead. That is confirmed.

Do you mean the Void Lords?

I think we'll need to counter the Hour of Twilight by activating the dragonshrines and things will play out like they did in End times dungeon. However we will need a titan.

The only titan left will be Sargeras. So he will be needed. When the avengers need Loki type moment.

Somebody watched Pyromancer recently.

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The titan Pantheon are fake and sham

The First Ones granted "wonders" to the titans of the Pantheon of Order in Zereth Ordus. The titans' servants on Azeroth, the keepers, are aware of the First Ones' existence, but Keeper Odyn long ago forbade his kin from sharing any knowledge of the First Ones with the mortal races, as he believed that this knowledge would only overwhelm and confuse them.[37] The brokers have accused the Pantheon of Order of claiming credit for creating the cosmos when they in fact only inherited it. The titan language uses the same word for "created" as it does for "Ordered";[38] Keeper Odyn believes that something can not be truly said to exist until it has been ordered, and that it is therefore not inaccurate to claim that the titans are responsible for all of creation.[37] The Chronicle books, a series of tomes written by servants of the titans[39] (and which the broker Ta'lora have accused of being titan-forged propaganda written to present the Pantheon of Order in a favorable light)[38] claim that the First Ones are a myth invented by the inhabitants of the Shadowlands.[9]

How can you in one sentence claim something is fake, and in the same sentence link information that comes from the source that proves it is not fake?

What in the fuck

[Shadowferal]

Something is fake until retcon happens?

[ro9ue]

Somebody watched Pyromancer recently.

Or Pyromancer has been reading my posts. That's been my theory for many years:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...Dragon-Aspects
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ry-coming-true

[Swnem]

I strongly suspect that "the last titan" is referring to Sargeras and not Azeroth.

[Golden Yak]

Azeroth won't even be a Titan, nevermind the last.

[Mic_128]

I think we'll need to counter the Hour of Twilight by activating the dragonshrines and things will play out like they did in End times dungeon. However we will need a titan.

Uh, we stopped the hour of twilight in cataclysm, and prevented End Time.

[Shadowferal]

Uh, we stopped the hour of twilight in cataclysm, and prevented End Time.

Past expansions aren't relevant.

[Soon-TM]

Azeroth won't even be a Titan, nevermind the last.

What the actual @#%& IS Azeroth, anyway? It was hinted that she was an unborn Titan, but later on that was discarded in favour of those annoying mystery matrioshkas so dear to the likes of Afrasiabi/Danuser.

[Auxis]

What the actual @#%& IS Azeroth, anyway? It was hinted that she was an unborn Titan, but later on that was discarded in favour of those annoying mystery matrioshkas so dear to the likes of Afrasiabi/Danuser.

She's 'the Prime Worldsoul', according to a report by Archaedas. Technically she IS an unborn Titan, in the sense that a Worldsoul can be a Titan. But a Worldsoul can be anything depending on what outside force empowers it fully. In the Titans case, it's Order magic, and I think its implied that the Void reaching a Worldsoul and influencing it creates a 'Void-Titan' or the approximate Void equivalent.

This brings up the question of how the first Titan born became a Titan (Aman'thul if Chronicles is to be believed) if no Titans existed before then. I believe the main theory is that the First Ones primed his Worldsoul or something like that.

But from what Archaedas' report says, Azeroth was very sentient and aware even in her Worldsoul form back during the Ordering of Azeroth. So much so that when the Titanforged tried to build the Worldcore around her (a gigantic contraption to help Order her), she turned Earthen into Thraegar (crystal earthen like what Magni was) which then attacked the Titanforged, and she created giant crystals out of her essence as a defence mechanism iirc (can't exactly remember what these were for - I think Archaedas said the Titanforged found them while building the Manifold (the name for the entirety of the Titan devices used to Order Azeroth) but I think it was implied these crystals were made in defence of Azeroth).

[deenman]

What the actual @#%& IS Azeroth, anyway? It was hinted that she was an unborn Titan, but later on that was discarded in favour of those annoying mystery matrioshkas so dear to the likes of Afrasiabi/Danuser.

azeroth is a dreadlord,hear me now...quote me later

[Golden Yak]

But from what Archaedas' report says, Azeroth was very sentient and aware even in her Worldsoul form back during the Ordering of Azeroth. So much so that when the Titanforged tried to build the Worldcore around her (a gigantic contraption to help Order her), she turned Earthen into Thraegar (crystal earthen like what Magni was) which then attacked the Titanforged, and she created giant crystals out of her essence as a defence mechanism iirc (can't exactly remember what these were for - I think Archaedas said the Titanforged found them while building the Manifold (the name for the entirety of the Titan devices used to Order Azeroth) but I think it was implied these crystals were made in defence of Azeroth).

Archaedas describes the crystals as 'obstacles' the Earthen encountered when building the Coreway, which was evidently a necessary step for the examination of the Worldsoul and subsequent construction of the Worldcore to begin transforming it with Order magic. If as obstacles they were intended to block construction, that might indeed imply a defense mechanism.