professions in the current xpac

[Proskill]

how are the professions in this expansion? i havent touched it and the last time i played modern WoW was at the very beginning of the dragonflight.

i remember selling epic gems at the beginning of the legion expansion. it was like printing money. i was making DAILY what other ppl wanted to make monthly for the WoW token.
i tried getting back into modern WoW with the dragonflight, but they really unnecessarily complicated professions and how items are made, so i dropped that and stopped playing without reliving the previous sucess.

[LordVargK]

Depends. On the AH you won't get huge profits, but a steady income with little investment after you skilled to and bought some required patterns. You basically trade concentration (a new form of crafting cooldown) for money.
Trade orders might give more money, but as always, after the initial goldrush at expansion release you have high competition. Also this form depends on realm. In tradechat you can sometimes find paying customers that will refer you further, giving you some form of customer retention.

Avoid gathering professions, other professions require much less effort. Also engineering is a waste of time.

You won't get daily tokens by playing normally. Again, the goldrush has died down and was not as big as in the past. But if you want to do hardcore crafting, there are still good opportunites for making loads of money. They require some effort and multiple alts, though. Sometimes you also need characters on different servers, to account for different AH prices, since only crafting mats and consumables are shared regionwide.

[mbit2]

Stamina energy system like gacha games, you use stamina instead of mats = profit.
Stamina is per character, more alts = more profit.

Dont know current prices, profit obviously went downhill quick past first 2 release weeks. I would expect it to revitalize somewhat with new patch & new gear.

[Proskill]

Depends. On the AH you won't get huge profits, but a steady income with little investment after you skilled to and bought some required patterns. You basically trade concentration (a new form of crafting cooldown) for money.
Trade orders might give more money, but as always, after the initial goldrush at expansion release you have high competition. Also this form depends on realm. In tradechat you can sometimes find paying customers that will refer you further, giving you some form of customer retention.

Avoid gathering professions, other professions require much less effort. Also engineering is a waste of time.

You won't get daily tokens by playing normally. Again, the goldrush has died down and was not as big as in the past. But if you want to do hardcore crafting, there are still good opportunites for making loads of money. They require some effort and multiple alts, though. Sometimes you also need characters on different servers, to account for different AH prices, since only crafting mats and consumables are shared regionwide.

seems like a lot of work for not so much profit compared to legion, which btw lasted for like 2-3 months since launch, so not so short. i made like 6-7 million gold back then

[LordVargK]

seems like a lot of work for not so much profit compared to legion, which btw lasted for like 2-3 months since launch, so not so short. i made like 6-7 million gold back then

It really isn't that much work overall. Yes, Legion might have been easier, but remember: prices (but not token prices) were super inflated back then, given the millions of gold you got from mission tables in WoD and Legion.

Currently once you're set up with a profession (which takes like 1 hour or so and a moderate amount of gold) you just login a few times a week and spend 5 minutes crafting, giving you 20k gold per char and week in profit. Which, yes, is not that much, but again, it is also only a miniscule amount of work required.

[Ashana Darkmoon]

The lazy version of concentration = money is okay passive income.

If you want to make real money you have to work at it, though. Part of that is just because like everything, there's way more optimized competition now than before (Legion was 9 years ago at this point). You need to be the "mythic raider" of professions if you want to make money (research, time, availability, etc).

Personally I still make concentration flasks and do the occasional work order every couple days because it is near 0 effort, but otherwise it isn't worth it if you are an adult with actual income. Unless you are someone who really enjoys the process of crafting (then knocked yourself out!), $20 for 300k is a way better use of your time

[Twdft]

you just login a few times a week and spend 5 minutes crafting, giving you 20k gold per char and week in profit.

20k... mind telling me which concentration crafts provide 860g profit per craft?

[Dreyen]

I'm a normie and i just craft mats on the AH with concentration and cheapest mats possible that give me rank3.

Enchanting and blacksmithing is fine. Leatherworking.. i feel you cant make money with this profession at all outside of crafting order tips.

[LordVargK]

20k... mind telling me which concentration crafts provide 860g profit per craft?

Many weapon enchants. Authority of the depths for example. You get 1680 concentration per week. With ingenuity at around 50% that's about 3300. And 6 gold per point of concentration is about average. Factor in other profession stats that lower your mat cost and you come to 20k easily.

Authority of the depths is not even the best example, but I paid for it, therefore I craft it!

[Depakote]

They've fucked up everything that ussed to be fun in this game. Now it's just a mindless grind for a maybe useful reward in a week. Professions are useless.

[thegoodbroham]

They've fucked up everything that ussed to be fun in this game. Now it's just a mindless grind for a maybe useful reward in a week. Professions are useless.

Professions make bis items now, they're objectively more useful than they've ever been in terms of the actual gameplay loop of gearing up. The fact I'm crafting my own bis weapon and for other melee as a blacksmith is profoundly more useful than how actually useless it used to be. So I'm not sure where this idea comes from, or the idea that things that were once fun are "mindless grinds"?

This is usually what you hear from people who haven't played the game in several years. You've never had more options that you can accomplish quickly for more sources of rewards than ever. You could complete a single key per week in much less time than you would've been raidlogging in the past after a full raid clear. What about it became somehow more mindless? lol

[Twdft]

They've fucked up everything that ussed to be fun in this game. Now it's just a mindless grind for a maybe useful reward in a week. Professions are useless.

Define useless.

You can make gold even without investing much. Enchanting is easy to level, now at the start of the season you can make 2000g profit per day for pressing a single button. Do that with as many chars as you want to log through.

[tamitap]

indeed yes

[Just Passing through]

I used to have them all in DF, levelled to 100 for achieve but mostly just to have my alts equipped and especially liked BS for my many plate alts and ofc all the weapons I could make.

Well, for WWI - I switched everything to Gathering...not because I didn't like how professions went, but to make "just gather, auction off and be done money" - not hang around, advertising in cities etc.

So you kinda need to decide what you want to get out of them

[Cynical Asshole]

The only professions that matter is Engineering and Mining.

You don't need another crafting profession because you will never be able to compete with the bots and spammers, and Engineering just gives a bunch of goodies like nitro boosts and jeeves, things that no other profession does.

So just get Engineering and Mining / Herbalism, and be done with it.

Also 2 days ago I made the mistake of noticing I could get a 3k profit from making a bunch of mining tools with my Engineering proff, so I made 5 Bismuth Hoards and put them in the AH. Undercut within minutes, and had to take them down post them again. Right now I still have an unsold one from 2 days ago because of of being undercut over and over. So unless you just stand around and keep spamming "Undercut Scan" button on Auctionator, you won't sell shit.

[Ereb]

So unless you just stand around and keep spamming "Undercut Scan" button on Auctionator, you won't sell shit.

In my 20 years of wow I've always just 'list and forget' anything I've ever wanted to sell without any issue, including now. Either hyperbole/lie or a skill issue not sure which.

Also claiming mining is one of the only proffs that ''matter'' is a clear insight to how little you know about this game meesa thinks lol

[chamchip]

Yeah, I feel you. I had the same experience—made a ton back in Legion flipping gems and gear early on. I came back in Dragonflight too and bounced off the profession revamp hard. Way too many layers with knowledge points, specializations, and crafting quality. It felt like I needed a spreadsheet and a guild economy to compete. Haven’t tried the latest patch yet, but I’m curious if it’s more casual-friendly now. I kinda miss that rush of printing gold at launch. Anyone here still making good gold with minimal headache?

^_Tutuapp

[Alroxas]

Anyone here still making good gold with minimal headache?

Depends - if you have toons with maxed out professions then yes, use craftsim to see what R3 items you can make with R2 + concentration to make a profit.

Principles of get in early in patch/season/xpac cycle still apply so items like new Contract for the Undermine Cartel did very well initially.

There's going to be a new rep added in Patch 11.1.5, and so if there's a new contract for that faction, that would be a good opportunity (and don't forget secondary and tertiary markets).