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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWarlock View Post
    Only when you ignore RTX exclusive stuff like DLSS. And DLSS4 is objectively better than FSR4. I agree the only thing going for it really is price (nobody would even consider it over a 5070ti if they were priced the same). Which is why I said I'd rather wait for pricing to stabilise rather than settle.
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    But unless there are some serious price cuts the 5070 Ti will never be price competitive with the 9070 XT. Yes DLSS4 is probably better than FSR4 but it's not £210 (37%) better. I tend to replace my PC every 5/6 years and maybe the 5070 Ti having GDDR7 rather than GDDR6 in the long run might mean it would last a little bit longer before needing replaced but I kind of doubt it.

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    The Ozzie blokes over at Hardware Unboxed just did a pretty interesting video on the topic of availability:



    Seems we're in a bit of a lurch here while we wait for retailers/AIBs to receive rebates for cards sold before AMD announced the MSRP for these cards. Both AMD and nVidia seem to be at least somewhat indirectly responsible for the current demand outstripping supply as both manufacturers deliberately stopped production of prior generation models well before these new models were available. If we get the good ending, though, cards will return to MSRP as retailers and board partners receive rebates for inventory sold prior to pricing announcement. Sadly, it's more likely that this is a deliberate ploy to keep demand high enough that people get desperate and pay absurd prices for cards so we just get used to dropping $1k on mid range cards for the foreseeable future. GPU manufacturers win, AIBs win, retailers win and scalpers win. Consumers lose. Something, something capitalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    The Ozzie blokes over at Hardware Unboxed just did a pretty interesting video on the topic of availability:



    Seems we're in a bit of a lurch here while we wait for retailers/AIBs to receive rebates for cards sold before AMD announced the MSRP for these cards. Both AMD and nVidia seem to be at least somewhat indirectly responsible for the current demand outstripping supply as both manufacturers deliberately stopped production of prior generation models well before these new models were available. If we get the good ending, though, cards will return to MSRP as retailers and board partners receive rebates for inventory sold prior to pricing announcement. Sadly, it's more likely that this is a deliberate ploy to keep demand high enough that people get desperate and pay absurd prices for cards so we just get used to dropping $1k on mid range cards for the foreseeable future. GPU manufacturers win, AIBs win, retailers win and scalpers win. Consumers lose. Something, something capitalism.
    I don't think there is any much of a ploy aside from the obvious corporate and professional AI accelerators demand.

    It's simply down to the reality that the current fab production capacity does not match the global demand, and it will take years to fix this. Until then - MSRP will be nothing more than a marketing trick, unless maybe if there will be some sort of AI crash in a year or so, which I don't really expect to happen.

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    Now as to specifically what happened with consumer Blackwell is that it uses absolutely same, identical process as Series 40 consumer GPUs. I don't think stopping production of Series 40 GPUs to produce Series 50 ones is some sort of evil plot here, it's simply the reality of a fact that both use the same fab capacity.

    This also is directly a main reason why Series 50 is so underwhelming of an increase compared to Series 40 - both use same process, so the "freebie" performance boost with simply better process we got a few previous generations was nowhere to be found this gen.

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