Bard Class Concept 2025

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's the same image though.

Yes and it’s a third party image unlike the one up on there own page.

[Nightshade711]

I think Bards absolutely could be serious. They don’t need to be an edgy “Grr im a soldier created for nothing but war” to be serious.

The earlier concept of using the radiant song to generate memories/echos of past heroes & events works well with what’s been established in-lore with the radiant song and can be taken seriously.

[Teriz]

I think Bards absolutely could be serious. They don’t need to be an edgy “Grr im a soldier created for nothing but war” to be serious.

The earlier concept of using the radiant song to generate memories/echos of past heroes & events works well with what’s been established in-lore with the radiant song and can be taken seriously.

Considering that the ETC-style bard has been implemented similarly to Monks, I have a feeling that they're going to be similar in tone to the Monk class. Might even be a class that starts at lvl 1.

[Ielenia]

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LoL! Okay.

This from the guy that once said the D&D's dragonborn race is popular because furries like to sexualize them.

But, as usual regarding bards, you're wrong. The class design is not tongue-in-cheek at all, and is quite serious, actually.

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Really?

https://i.ibb.co/mF0Jgsmv/ezgif-6fd17b07bfb5b2.jpg

Can you show us doing that in the game with our characters?

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Considering that the ETC-style bard has been implemented similarly to Monks,

It has not. There is no "ETC-style bard" in WoW. All bards in WoW follow the traditional fantasy trope of the concept, as demonstrated to you many times over.

[username993720]

Doing exaggerated kung fu with distended bellies isn’t goofy?

That's the pandaren.

Really?

The brews? I guess.
What you want out of the Bard, though, would be like adding comic book remarks next to it, like: "Bang", "Shazam", "Pow!".

[Nightshade711]

I have a feeling that they're going to be similar in tone to the Monk class. Might even be a class that starts at lvl 1.

Monks aren’t as silly/whimsical as you’re trying to make them to be.

I doubt Bards are going to be starting at level 1-10 when the expansion launches. There’s no point to doing such now that every expansion comes with a level boost. Blizzard will probably do what they did with Evokers and have them start out going in the expansion they’re introduced in & lower them down to level 10 after that expansion.

Bards being empowered by Azeroth and using the Radiant Song to conjure images of heroes (for example) is plenty to be a hero class either way.
I can see Bard NPCs like Russell Brower show up in the class. Lorewalker Cho can work for the storytelling side too.

[Teriz]

Monks aren’t as silly/whimsical as you’re trying to make them to be.

I doubt Bards are going to be starting at level 1-10 when the expansion launches. There’s no point to doing such now that every expansion comes with a level boost. Blizzard will probably do what they did with Evokers and have them start out going in the expansion they’re introduced in & lower them down to level 10 after that expansion.

Bards being empowered by Azeroth and using the Radiant Song to conjure images of heroes (for example) is plenty to be a hero class either way.
I can see Bard NPCs like Russell Brower show up in the class. Lorewalker Cho can work for the storytelling side too.

And what would be the combat rotation for a storyteller or for a Bard like Russell Brower?

[Nightshade711]

And what would be the combat rotation for a storyteller or for a Bard like Russell Brower?

Whatever blizzard wants their rotation to be. Unlike you I’m not going to pretend to be a class designer when I’m not.


A cool idea I had on paper would be for Blizzard to give them a different take on the empower mechanic.
Perhaps one ability to start the cast and other abilities that’ll either set the empower level and/or add effects.

Thematically it’d be starting a song (or story) and the abilities are different “notes” in the song or parts of the story.

[Nightsquall]

Just no, please. Thank you.

[SilverLion]

I made those threads three years apart.

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Bard in of itself isn’t a serious concept. It’s meant to be whimsical.

And there it is. There's the admission this entire thread was basically just bait to dunk on Bards and people who like Bards versus Tinker. This was never an actual class concept, it was a bait thread to get people to argue with him about why Bards are really stupid and since they're stupid they should be a weird cow with a guitar because since it's all stupid we should go with the stupidest version. Good lord.

[Lahis]

Whatever blizzard wants their rotation to be. Unlike you I’m not going to pretend to be a class designer when I’m not.


A cool idea I had on paper would be for Blizzard to give them a different take on the empower mechanic.
Perhaps one ability to start the cast and other abilities that’ll either set the empower level and/or add effects.

Thematically it’d be starting a song (or story) and the abilities are different “notes” in the song or parts of the story.

I know it could never happen because of the sound asset and timing requirements, but imagine if the "autoshot" ability for bards was playing/singing a base song and abilities fired off as special notes on the song?

[Nightshade711]

I know it could never happen because of the sound asset and timing requirements, but imagine if the "autoshot" ability for bards was playing/singing a base song and abilities fired off as special notes on the song?

That could work.
It could fall under the “sonic” damage type probably.

[FossilFree]

I know it could never happen because of the sound asset and timing requirements, but imagine if the "autoshot" ability for bards was playing/singing a base song and abilities fired off as special notes on the song?

Maybe auto shot/auto attack could play a steady rhythm pattern of chords (the harmony) and then when you use your abilities it plays the lead with single notes on scales (the melody) on top of the rhythm. It would then be up to Blizzard to design the abilities in such a way that your rotation would play an actually pleasing tune rather than a cacophony of nonsense sounds.

For example, if it is optimal to use certain abilities in a certain order (as per most rotations) then they could assign the notes to those abilities with the advance knowledge of what order you would be playing those notes in, to produce an actual piece of music. If ability 1 produces an A note, ability 2 produces a B note, ability 3 produces a C note, and so on, then they could design that rotation to match a sequence of notes. Due to there being 7 notes, the bard would necessitate 7 ability rotations. Different music would be produced by different builds, specs, and hero talents, since those will usually modify your rotation.

[Raysizer]

A bard class would be cool. In FFXIV there are music events and guilds

[Teriz]

And there it is. There's the admission this entire thread was basically just bait to dunk on Bards and people who like Bards versus Tinker. This was never an actual class concept, it was a bait thread to get people to argue with him about why Bards are really stupid and since they're stupid they should be a weird cow with a guitar because since it's all stupid we should go with the stupidest version. Good lord.

Actually no. This entire thread was to give the Bard concept some direction, since people have a difficult time articulating how a WoW class would be original or different from existing classes. Take a look at what's currently happening in ithe big class thread where simple questions about the originality of Bards took a turn into an exhaustive discussion about Pandaren Monks. Meanwhile, the poster asking questions could have easily had their questions asked here.

Also, keep in mind, calling Bards "whimsical by default" doesn't make them "stupid". We also shouldn't forget that there are posters in this thread who like this version of Bard.

[OurSubsistence]

Would love to see some musical performances like FFXIV has, that would be awsesome

[Big Thanks]

This thread is so toxic...

Because this Bard thread makes me so excited i no longer want any other new class.

BARD! BARD! BARD! GO! Whats taking so long?!?

[Calfredd]

This thread is so toxic...

Because this Bard thread makes me so excited i no longer want any other new class.

BARD! BARD! BARD! GO! Whats taking so long?!?

I would prefer someone make an bard concept thread who actually cares about bards but nice to see that you are easily pleased.

[Teriz]

I would prefer someone make an bard concept thread who actually cares about bards but nice to see that you are easily pleased.

It’s rather unfair to say that I don’t care about Bards simply because my thread features a type of Bard outside your personal preference. As this thread has demonstrated, multiple posters like this version of the class concept.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It’s rather unfair to say that I don’t care about Bards simply because my thread features a type of Bard outside your personal preference. As this thread has demonstrated, multiple posters like this version of the class concept.

Did you think we had forgotten do you think we had forgiven?

The Elite Tauren ChieftainSince I am tired of seeing this class concept being brought up constantly in multiple threads, let's end the discussion here; The ONLY viable Bard concept in WoW currently is the Elite Tauren Chieftain. He is the only Bardic character in WoW that has the majority of criteria that the other 4 WoW expansion concepts possessed, and he has enough presence in the lore to be considered a part of it.

He has original abilities, he has clear weapon options (variations of those weapons have appeared in WoW), and there is evidence of potential variation due to his band-mates. You could even possibly tie the class to a Darkmoon expansion.

In addition, there was the Bard class April fool's joke from the early days of WoW showcasing a concept similar to the ETC;



A hard rocking, heavy metal Bard class. Uniquely Blizzard, and quite different from other fantasy RPG Bardic characters.

However, the major problem with this concept (IMO) is that it simply doesn't fit WoW, and would be completely derided as a terrible class concept.

What do you think? Do you share my view that this class concept would be a terrible class idea, or do you think an ETC class has potential? Let me know in the poll above.