Amani trolls as allied race in Midnight

[Dezolacer]

Since the events of Midnight will be happening in Quel'Thalas I think there is no reason for Blizzard to not touch the troll theme. They've been living there forever and afaik has not gone anywhere. Lore wise I assume the most amani thing they could do is to wait for some bad events to happen and strike the elves once again, but since rainbow and friendship is a thing rn in WoW the most reasonable thing to do would be to talk them into joining The Horde. Good reference of how they should look like would be Zul'jin from HotS. Honestly there is no reason for Zul'Aman 2.0 to not happen.

[TBM X]

Since the events of Midnight will be happening in Quel'Thalas I think there is no reason for Blizzard to not touch the troll theme. They've been living there forever and afaik has not gone anywhere. Lore wise I assume the most amani thing they could do is to wait for some bad events to happen and strike the elves once again, but since rainbow and friendship is a thing rn in WoW the most reasonable thing to do would be to talk them into joining The Horde. Good reference of how they should look like would be Zul'jin from HotS. Honestly there is no reason for Zul'Aman 2.0 to not happen.

I don't think this will be possible. Amani Trolls are rival to the Zanadari trolls and often fought each other for land and power, and compared to Zanadri, Amani trolls have less significance and presence. It would be weird to have Amani Trolls as an allied race in the same category with the Zanadari trolls.

[Triceron]

I don't think this will be possible. Amani Trolls are rival to the Zanadari trolls and often fought each other for land and power, and compared to Zanadri, Amani trolls have less significance and presence. It would be weird to have Amani Trolls as an allied race in the same category with the Zanadari trolls.

Zandalari were rivals to Darkspear, look where they are now.

Lore progresses and old hatreds can become friendships with the stroke of a pen.

[Lolites]

I don't think this will be possible. Amani Trolls are rival to the Zanadari trolls and often fought each other for land and power, and compared to Zanadri, Amani trolls have less significance and presence. It would be weird to have Amani Trolls as an allied race in the same category with the Zanadari trolls.

zandalari came to aid to amani in 4.1, rewordked ZA (and ZG, but thats irrelevant) had some Zandalari trolls there
plus zandalari were enemies of darkspear too

also, raventusk were part of amani empire and they are friends now, so we could get forest trolls but not amani directly

[Nightshade711]

Knowing Blizz they’ll probably make them a neutral AR lol

[Nymrohd]

You don't need the Amani tribe to have forest trolls. The Horde has had the Revantusk forest trolls since the very beginning. You can have a combination of Zandalari and Revantusk leading the players into the Hills of Maisara and then the Revantusk can be the focus for any forest trolls that are left over from whatever happens there since it will certainly be a mess.

[MrLachyG]

Maybe but I think if they’re adding races they’ll make them neutral and not an allied race, just like they did with the Earthern.

Allied races were specifically a BfA thing, because the Horde and Alliance needed new allies. Now that’s over, so is the concept.

[fatgunn]

I could definitely see them adding extra, more Amani-like, customization options to trolls at the very least.

[Nightshade711]

I could definitely see them adding extra, more Amani-like, customization options to trolls at the very least.

I could see that.
I think I remember blizzard saying they’ll add Dracthyr level of customization to the other races.

A bulkier body option for trolls would be cool.

[TBM X]

Zandalari were rivals to Darkspear, look where they are now.

Lore progresses and old hatreds can become friendships with the stroke of a pen.

Ah, well in that case it might work. Blizzard will have to come up with some lore for it... but likewise I think Amani Trolls will be a good neutral race.

[Dezolacer]

Ah, well in that case it might work. Blizzard will have to come up with some lore for it... but likewise I think Amani Trolls will be a good neutral race.

What do you mean by neutral? Playable by both Alliance and Horde or a completely separate 3rd faction? In first case it's dumb and makes no sense. They hate even Horde imagine their take on humans lol. And actually them joining Horde is not that hard to imagine. Remember Dragonmaw clan? The most brain-dead and hostile clan ever known - ended up joining Horde. There was a chick Zaela, idk if she is dead in the lore but I remember her being involved all the way in SoO raid, Galakras is her dragon and she initially helped us (Horde) to overthrow their warchief on Twilight Highlands shore.

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Zandalari were rivals to Darkspear, look where they are now.

Zandalari were enemies to everybody at some point. I like how everyone collectively forgets how they brought Lei Shen back to life in Pandaria lol.

[Syegfryed]

Since the events of Midnight will be happening in Quel'Thalas I think there is no reason for Blizzard to not touch the troll theme. They've been living there forever and afaik has not gone anywhere. Lore wise I assume the most amani thing they could do is to wait for some bad events to happen and strike the elves once again, but since rainbow and friendship is a thing rn in WoW the most reasonable thing to do would be to talk them into joining The Horde. Good reference of how they should look like would be Zul'jin from HotS. Honestly there is no reason for Zul'Aman 2.0 to not happen.

Not going to happen, but isnt going to happen because blizz just seems to do all the terrible choices

They will not make one race for each faction anymore, everything is neutral like rock dwarves, this is an elf expansion, so there is no fucking way the amani trolls become a neutral race, i would fucking quit the game in a heartbeat if the amani are allowed in the alliance.

The best they can do is making another raid killing trolls, you will see how xalatath corrupted the trolls with void and they will call a day.

[Triceron]

What do you mean by neutral? Playable by both Alliance and Horde or a completely separate 3rd faction? In first case it's dumb and makes no sense.

At this point, ANY race joining A/H is contrived and makes little sense. Earthen don't make sense, Dracthyr don't make sense, even Pandaren don't make sense. Their lore is basically they join 'just because'. Sometimes they get helped, sometimes they just feel like it. There's no reason why more races aren't joining. It is only a matter of resolving the technical issues in adapting NPC races into Player races.

Why did Nightborne and Highmountain even pick a side when both Alliance and Horde helped them in quests? There was no preferential treatment to Horde in Legion.

All of these lines are arbitrarily drawn. They will continue to be. All we need to focus on is what is feasible to be playable, not whether they would join the Alliance or Horde. A/H is inevitable, and faction splits have become fairly pointless in the lore now anyways.

[Dezolacer]

Why did Nightborne and Highmountain even pick a side when both Alliance and Horde helped them in quests?

Due to their blood ties to the Horde and shared ancestry? You expect gnomes to hop on Horde side after you'll do a couple of world quests for them lol???

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They will not make one race for each faction anymore, everything is neutral like rock dwarves, this is an elf expansion, so there is no fucking way the amani trolls become a neutral race, i would fucking quit the game in a heartbeat if the amani are allowed in the alliance.

Those rock dwarves are literally boring npcs who cares not a solid argument. Them joining alliance and horde didn't made any difference and nobody cares. Hell no! Amani can join Horde, and for Alliance they can dig up some let's say magically out of nowhere highborn quel'dorei elfs (yes I know that you can rp as one nowdays by tweaking some character customization but no, actual one with different ingame model)

[Triceron]

Due to their blood ties to the Horde and shared ancestry? You expect gnomes to hop on Horde side after you'll do a couple of world quests for them lol???

And NE share Nightborne ancestry? No diff than a goblin gaining favour of Nightborne into Horde.

Blood ties are meaningless when friendships are forged through battle and conflict. Blood Elves are on Horde despite HE remaining with Alliance after all. Same can be said of Lordaeronian Forsaken in Horde. Yes, they are former Humans, people often forget about that

[NZephyrus]

Maybe but I think if they’re adding races they’ll make them neutral and not an allied race, just like they did with the Earthern.

Allied races were specifically a BfA thing, because the Horde and Alliance needed new allies. Now that’s over, so is the concept.

This is explicitly false, the Earthen ARE an Allied Race. (They're also Neutral, which just means it's not mutually exclusive.) This is stated by Blizzard themselves.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com.../news/24104276

They're a race based somewhat on an existing race (this isn't required but a common pattern in ARs we got before), with new customizations, that earn Heritage Armor upon reaching level 50, and are unlocked by fulfilling requirements including questline(s). They're an Allied Race.

[Dezolacer]

And NE share Nightborne ancestry? No diff than a goblin gaining favour of Nightborne into Horde.

Blood ties are meaningless when friendships are forged through battle and conflict. Blood Elves are on Horde despite HE remaining with Alliance after all. Same can be said of Lordaeronian Forsaken in Horde. Yes, they are former Humans, people often forget about that

They all share troll's ancestry which is peak ironic in this context just saying

Blood ties are meaningless when friendships are forged through battle and conflict.

As meaningless as it is poetic. But no, I see the substitution you trying to play here, not this time man lol. Bulls with horns + Bulls with horns = Bulls with horns and don't try to play it here with this pseudo philosophical poo lol. As of humans yea they should've abandon their dumb alliance long time ago and join their zombie brothers true and real.

[Triceron]

They all share troll's ancestry which is peak ironic in this context just saying


As meaningless as it is poetic. But no, I see the substitution you trying to play here, not this time man lol. Bulls with horns + Bulls with horns = Bulls with horns and don't try to play it here with this pseudo philosophical poo lol. As of humans yea they should've abandon their dumb alliance long time ago and join their zombie brothers true and real.

Night Elves abd Void Elves don't count? We just gonna go all in Horde bias here? Just saying, your true colors are showing

[ThatsOurEric]

I really hope not. Two Troll races are more than enough.

[X59]

I would personally love being able to have a Forest Troll of my own and with the Revantusk tribe apart of the Horde, that avenue can be opened at any time.

Now when it comes to the Amani tribe rejoining the Horde. In Exploring Azeroth: Islands and Isles, they were surprisingly chill with Thalyssra, a leader of the Horde, walking through their enclave when the Horde seeking to court the Zandalari in Battle for Azeroth made them extremely hostile. At the very least the door is open to the Horde and Amani having a more positive relationship with one another.