WoD Classic CANNOT be released as it was back in 2014.

[XalAtoh]

You cannot release the expansion exactly as it was, thematic WoD was impressive and unique, but the product was simply not in good state.

You MUST fix loneliness in Garrison.
You MUST fix poor gameplay in Garrison.
You MUST fix end-game for non-raiders.

That's the bareminimum for WoD classic.

And highly, highly recommend: ... add the cut content, or add fresh new content fitting for WoD/IronHorde/FelHorde.

[Uvania]

You cannot release the expansion exactly as it was, thematic WoD was impressive and unique, but the product was simply not in good state.

You MUST fix loneliness in Garrison.
You MUST fix poor gameplay in Garrison.
You MUST fix end-game for non-raiders.

That's the bareminimum for WoD classic.

And highly, highly recommend: ... add the cut content, or add fresh new content fitting for WoD/IronHorde/FelHorde.

Nah, biggest issue with WoD was the long content draughts, people don't socialize in current classic anyway and 95% of the playerbase is just raidlogging anyway.

Retail is the best version for non-raiders, lots of content to do solo like delves, achievements, solo shuffle, bg blitz and the list can go on and on.

[Nitros14]

WoD is a raid logging expansion, and a very good one in that specific niche. All three raids are excellent, Blackrock Foundry is top 5 all time.

I quite liked the leveling too. And I'll have a fun time golding all the challenge modes again.

If they just keep it shorter than actual WoD, increase the pace of content releases, it's fine.

[Hitei]

You cannot release the expansion exactly as it was, thematic WoD was impressive and unique, but the product was simply not in good state.

You MUST fix loneliness in Garrison.
You MUST fix poor gameplay in Garrison.
You MUST fix end-game for non-raiders.

That's the bareminimum for WoD classic.

And highly, highly recommend: ... add the cut content, or add fresh new content fitting for WoD/IronHorde/FelHorde.

So you don't want WoD Classic, you want WoD: SoD.

[Mysterymask]

I mean WoD classic is probably mostly going to be what WoD was I see a few things

Gold missons from Garrions will probably be gone... Hell with the token in classic that sounds like a disaster
Time between patches are going to be accelerated we probably wont have a 6.1 "Selfie Patch"

Re-Add cut content...I mean it's not like Blizzard fully finished said cut content and its stashed in a hard drive next to Danseur's Slyvannas porn like I don't even think it made it out of concept the amount of work to "Re-Add it" they might as well make another expansion It wouldn't even be "Re-Add" the content it would be fucking make it in the first place and within the confides of WoD

I mean I get it WoD is the whole "Lost Potential" expansion but classic is about classic warts and all. If they do anything I can see the following

Mythic dungeons out from the get go
the whole "Heroic+ thing they've been doing to keep the dungeons relevant hell make a semi "Mythic Plus in WoD"
The Quality of Life changes to the garrirson out from the start
Improve the rep grind
Black Rock Furnace coming out quicker
Accusation of the legendary ring being quicker and more palletable
and the expansion as a whole probably only lasting a year to move on to Legion quicker

but effectively gutting the expansion to make it more palletable yeah not gonna happen. Hell if they are moving to progressive servers WoD is going to be a weak point where people are going to move to "Fresh" ones so this might end up being the point when if they have rotating servers to open a new one since people will probably level in WoD and just fuck off till Legion and play Vanilla again or something.

[Daedius]

WoD Classic MUST have an authentic launch, no garrison for everyone!

[SpaceMistakes]

WoD is a raid logging expansion, and a very good one in that specific niche. All three raids are excellent, Blackrock Foundry is top 5 all time.

I quite liked the leveling too. And I'll have a fun time golding all the challenge modes again.

If they just keep it shorter than actual WoD, increase the pace of content releases, it's fine.

BRF was so damn good.

[XalAtoh]

Nobody wants WoD Classic, we want WoD done-right.

I've never played the other Classic WoW games, BUT if people only log-in to Classic 1 time in week to do raids, then that's a problem, not a feature. You have to make a game-mode (WoD Classic in this case) that makes people WANT to play it as much as possible.

Otherwise, why even bother?

It is simple, WoD could been better, that's a fact it seems. And this is the best opportunity to do it for WoD classic but also for hypothetical WoD-Remix.

[Lolites]

You MUST fix end-game for non-raiders.

non-raiders had no endgame pretty much (no pve at least) until legion, they did not "fix" that for vanila, tbc, wrath or (presumably) MOP classic, but they MUST do it for wod? really?
you seem to completely miss what classic wow is... further suported by

And highly, highly recommend: ... add the cut content, or add fresh new content fitting for WoD/IronHorde/FelHorde.

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Nobody wants WoD Classic

dont speak for others please
you dont want wod classic? there were people who did not want mop classic, or cata classic, or whath classic, or tbc classic or classic in general, so they did not play it, so dont play WOD classic when it comes out, problem solved

again, seems you dont understand point of classic, so let me explain blizz point of view: its EASY MONEY, thats it, they will not put more work for it bcs its not profitable, thats why we did not get additional content for tbc onwards, only for vanila, and even that was basicaly just reusing assets from retail...

[XalAtoh]

Classic is about reliving the GOOD part of the old game.

It is not that complicated right? Nobody wants to relive the bad parts.

WoD wasn't praised for the pinnacle gameplay design. So that part needs to be fixed.

again, seems you dont understand point of classic, so let me explain blizz point of view: its EASY MONEY, thats it, they will not put more work for it bcs its not profitable, thats why we did not get additional content for tbc onwards, only for vanila, and even that was basicaly just reusing assets from retail...

No, that's the lazy answer.

"Everything Blizzard does is about easy money" = Lazy answer.

The point of Classic is that players can relive the good part of the old game. Blizzard gets to earn money, sure, but the player gets to play a good game.

[Nitros14]

I've never played the other Classic WoW games, BUT if people only log-in to Classic 1 time in week to do raids, then that's a problem, not a feature. You have to make a game-mode (WoD Classic in this case) that makes people WANT to play it as much as possible.

I actually really disliked the stuff that came in Legion where the buzzword was 'engagement' and you constantly had to log in to do your busywork and infinite grinds.

[WowIsDead64]

You cannot release the expansion exactly as it was, thematic WoD was impressive and unique, but the product was simply not in good state.

You MUST fix loneliness in Garrison.
You MUST fix poor gameplay in Garrison.
You MUST fix end-game for non-raiders.

That's the bareminimum for WoD classic.

And highly, highly recommend: ... add the cut content, or add fresh new content fitting for WoD/IronHorde/FelHorde.

WOD is the best xpack ever made. But I has been waiting for somebody to say, that it should be fixed. How about no? How about "no changes" concept? You have your garbage Cata Classic without changes. You will have your MOP Classic with all that FOMO dailies and claustrophoblic no-flying isles. Without any changes. Let us have the most casual- and alt-friendly xpack ever made without any changes.

Yeah. Some changes are possible. Like having more good casual-friendly content. But. Modern Blizzard team would only destroy content via turning it into modern FOMO garbage.

[Mysterymask]

Classic is about reliving the GOOD part of the old game.

It is not that complicated right? Nobody wants to relive the bad parts.

WoD wasn't praised for the pinnacle gameplay design. So that part needs to be fixed.

Neither was Wrath or Cata. Hell its often forgotten Wrath was HATED when it was current and Cata was supposed to be its savior. Wrath love happened post mortum. We're going to have a WoD with the fat trimmed off and is probably going to be a shorter classic experience. That's fine if Season of Discovery keeps going through the expansions and it hits WoD THEN we might get the cut content. But if you think for one god damned second that WoD is going to get the fancy Classic+ experience that NONE of the other expansions got then I got some beach front property in Montana to sell you.

[Stickiler]

Nobody wants WoD Classic, we want WoD done-right.

Ahh, there's your first mistake. There is ALWAYS some people who like the expansion exactly as it was. Case in point:

WOD is the best xpack ever made.

[fazaim]

Neither was Wrath or Cata. Hell its often forgotten Wrath was HATED when it was current and Cata was supposed to be its savior. Wrath love happened post mortum. We're going to have a WoD with the fat trimmed off and is probably going to be a shorter classic experience. That's fine if Season of Discovery keeps going through the expansions and it hits WoD THEN we might get the cut content. But if you think for one god damned second that WoD is going to get the fancy Classic+ experience that NONE of the other expansions got then I got some beach front property in Montana to sell you.

Not true. There's always been people complaining on forums about certain aspects of the game but WotLK wasn't widely hated. In my experience people found it so fun they were no longer "closet gamers" at school which kinda recruited even the cool kids to the game.

Maybe you're talking about the last few months of WotLK?

[WowIsDead64]

Neither was Wrath or Cata. Hell its often forgotten Wrath was HATED when it was current and Cata was supposed to be its savior. Wrath love happened post mortum. We're going to have a WoD with the fat trimmed off and is probably going to be a shorter classic experience. That's fine if Season of Discovery keeps going through the expansions and it hits WoD THEN we might get the cut content. But if you think for one god damned second that WoD is going to get the fancy Classic+ experience that NONE of the other expansions got then I got some beach front property in Montana to sell you.

Major question is always - hated by whom? By majority of playerbase? Or by some "TBC is the best xpack ever made" forum minority? As always. Loss of 2.5M subs was more than obvious answer.

[deenman]

zero chance of cut content being added lol,maybe they could have m0 from day 1,and release raids earlier,thats about it

[Ghostile]

Not true. There's always been people complaining on forums about certain aspects of the game but WotLK wasn't widely hated. In my experience people found it so fun they were no longer "closet gamers" at school which kinda recruited even the cool kids to the game.

Maybe you're talking about the last few months of WotLK?

Probably last few and first few, as WOTLK launched in barely playable state.

[XalAtoh]

Ahh, there's your first mistake. There is ALWAYS some people who like the expansion exactly as it was. Case in point:

WoD wasn't really the worst expansion, I prefer it more than Legion, but to call WoD "the best expansion ever made" is suspicious.

And no, I made no mistake, what he likes about WoD does not fit with what World of Warcraft represent.

If you want "offline single player" and "Garrison style text-based AFK missions" then don't play WoW. This is exactly what Blizzards needs to remove from WoD Classic, Remix. Because you are not gonna ruin a whole expansion just because someone is playing the wrong game, a game not designed for him.

People like him are very dangerous. If WoW-team follows this man's opinion, he may actually bring WoW to bankruptcy.

I has been waiting for somebody to say, that it should be fixed. How about no? How about "no changes" concept?

Mistakes should not be repeated, instead it should be fixed.

If WoD Classic will come with all the same mistakes from the past, like not learning from the clear mistakes, then don't even bother releasing WoD Classic. Instead just cancel WoD Classic. It would be embarassing to see WoD Classic and Remix with the same lazy flaws. As if modern WoW devs have no creativity or ability to improve even WoD's gamedesign flaws.

[Shadowferal]

*shrugs*
WoD was the expansion that had me perma-quit WoW. And after seeing how the game deviated from the prior material, I'm glad I did.