WoWCast - How World of Warcraft is Improving its UI

[Brewhan]

Playing this on steam deck with console port and having the 1 button rotation will make it even easier and more chill. I definitely see this going towards consoles more main stream with that 1 button setup. Considering this is also on GeForce Now with console port addon included option.

[justwatching]

Okay I like the different approach to addons in general. As for the Rotation assist I dont mind the glowing button part thats just a way for people to learn their rotation ingame..eventually it will become muscle memory anyway. But the condensing it to a single button thing seems too much. There is also a downstream effect on PvP here but I know nobody cares about that.

[tromage2]

1 Button option..... Just go all the way at this point and let an AI assistant play the game for us so we can just sit back, relax and stream on twitch and talk to people....... How can game devs think that 1 button games are fun. At this point i wonder if these blizzard devs are even gamers anymore or just IT people fresh from school and never played a game before.

[Leadfoot352]

1 Button option..... Just go all the way at this point and let an AI assistant play the game for us so we can just sit back, relax and stream on twitch and talk to people....... How can game devs think that 1 button games are fun. At this point i wonder if these blizzard devs are even gamers anymore or just IT people fresh from school and never played a game before.

I have a buddy who plays the game insanely casually, just wants to get the story, do world quests, and otherwise hang out with his buds in chat. He is so insanely hyped about this change that he's talking about leveling a bunch of characters for RP reasons because he can actually play them now. People play the game for a lot of reasons, and letting those people play how they want is good for business and doesn't hurt anyone else.

[tromage2]

I have a buddy who plays the game insanely casually, just wants to get the story, do world quests, and otherwise hang out with his buds in chat. He is so insanely hyped about this change that he's talking about leveling a bunch of characters for RP reasons because he can actually play them now. People play the game for a lot of reasons, and letting those people play how they want is good for business and doesn't hurt anyone else.

So why not make an AI mode then that plays the game for you??? What is the barrier at this point now?
Your buddy can then enjoy the story, world quests and hang out in chat without even pressing the 1 button....

[Caprias]

So why not make an AI mode then that plays the game for you??? What is the barrier at this point now?
Your buddy can then enjoy the story, world quests and hang out in chat without even pressing the 1 button....

They literally said it won't be optimal xd
Imagine being so butthurt about this.

[Unforgivenn]

They literally said it won't be optimal xd
Imagine being so butthurt about this.

Ya, on interview the 1 button will have longer gcd, which is a dps loss

[khazmodan]

Im sure Asmongold will think this is an awesome idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDmVxivFww

I guess they have run out of cash grabs so they are trying moron grabs.

[Kathranis]

One thing I want to point out is that just because there's a rotation assistant button doesn't mean you have to bind it to 1 and then only press 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1...

There's one big way I can see it being useful, especially for people who are clickers, are less dexterous, don't want to muck with key bindings, or don't want to invest in an MMO mouse or whatever, which is to weave it into your regular rotation to handle the buttons that are father away from WASD.

So you might bind a core 1, 2, 3, 4 rotation, but bind the rotation assistant to 1 and let it handle other important abilities that are harder to reach. So your rotation might look like 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4...

So it basically does become a shortcut button, but how often you want to incur the GCD penalty versus the convenience of clicking it is entirely up to you.

[Randris]

Im sure Asmongold will think this is an awesome idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDmVxivFww

I guess they have run out of cash grabs so they are trying moron grabs.

I'd be more surprised if he didn't hate it. Looks like he still hasn't realized that this game has left him behind and his opinions about it aren't relevant anymore.

[NerdAssassin]

Im sure Asmongold will think this is an awesome idea...

Let me guess. He thinks anyone using it is "terrible person" and from "inferior culture".

[luxvult]

Here's an idea for 12.0. Just hire the wow glider guys and be done with it. 0 button rotation. Call it WoW-GPT to ride the wave of AI slop.

[Haldus]

This is the truly scary thing about the WoW raid/dungeon development team; they simply don't care about opinions unless they come from influencers and/or esports players in the RWF/MDI scene. This perturbs me because these players never have to interact with the game the same way that the majority of the playerbase does. A big name streamer or hardcore raider will simply never touch the LFG tool and as a result it's no wonder that it remains so lamentably archaic even as other systems continue to advance.

[Ghostile]

A big name streamer or hardcore raider will simply never touch the LFG tool and as a result it's no wonder that it remains so lamentably archaic even as other systems continue to advance.

You mean the LFR/Random heroic tool, or the LFG tool, which these people use to pug keys?

[Ereb]

Removing in-game dps meters sounds great

lol no way

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Im sure Asmongold will think this is an awesome idea...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDmVxivFww

I guess they have run out of cash grabs so they are trying moron grabs.

God I got 6 minutes into it before I wanted to lick a gun barrel. Between all the over the top swinging back n forth in his chair overtaken by supposed shock over this mundane entry to the game, acting like it's going to take over raiding with the most brain dead takes that he thinks is gospel and everybody else is the idiot ugh that was cringe af man I used to like that guy back in the day wtf happened.

Ion explained it very well this is for people who don't care about the mechanics side of the game and collect pokemon or RP only or explore and whatnot I don't see what the big deal is this has nothing to do with competitive play what so ever.

[Darknessvamp]

lol no way

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God I got 6 minutes into it before I wanted to lick a gun barrel. Between all the over the top swinging back n forth in his chair overtaken by supposed shock over this mundane entry to the game, acting like it's going to take over raiding with the most brain dead takes that he thinks is gospel and everybody else is the idiot ugh that was cringe af man I used to like that guy back in the day wtf happened.

Ion explained it very well this is for people who don't care about the mechanics side of the game and collect pokemon or RP only or explore and whatnot I don't see what the big deal is this has nothing to do with competitive play what so ever.

I'd say your time polishing a gun barrel would be better spent shopping for a new pair of headphones because if you actually heard what his point was is that if they're having a problem with people complaining there are too many buttons/spells to press, maybe look into that rather than creating a non-solution one button to press all those buttons for you or a secondary highlight system if people can't play their class without it. Also his point about it being adopted in raiding was if someone is consistently falling below the dps parse generated by the one button system your raid lead is going to order you to use it to make you being there worthwhile without expectation you would improve.

Additionally in no universe does Ion saying "Mechanics get in the way of playing the game." sound like a good or even clever thing to say. At that point just watch a stream if you're so abhorrent to engage in the bare minimum of playing the thing you pay a subscription to 'play'.

[Ereb]

I'd say your time polishing a gun barrel would be better spent shopping for a new pair of headphones because if you actually heard what his point was is that if they're having a problem with people complaining there are too many buttons/spells to press, maybe look into that rather than creating a non-solution one button to press all those buttons for you or a secondary highlight system if people can't play their class without it.

You are the one seemingly confused. This game is played by literal millions of players and is played in countless different ways. There is nothing wrong with throwing a bone to the "bad casuals" of wow. The same people that usually like to complain about how complicated wow's rotations are what a coincidence!

If you do any sort of serious raiding, even at the AOTC level I would argue, this is a non issue for you and your world it may as well not even exist. Unless you want it to. Options are fun!

[DarkAmbient]

Me immediately after watching this interview:

What the hell are those preposterous beards lol, they look like Dan Bilzerian

[fatslapper]

You are the one seemingly confused. This game is played by literal millions of players and is played in countless different ways. There is nothing wrong with throwing a bone to the "bad casuals" of wow. The same people that usually like to complain about how complicated wow's rotations are what a coincidence!

If you do any sort of serious raiding, even at the AOTC level I would argue, this is a non issue for you and your world it may as well not even exist. Unless you want it to. Options are fun!

I think retail is bleeding players like crazy. The game is just bloated with too many systems, too many complex specs that require rotation helpers even for better players. Almost every instance encounter requires some kind addon to be able to track what is going on. Every new player I introduce to the game either dies of boredom while leveling, since they gutted leveling for vet players that wanted to level to max in 4 hours, or they hit the endgame and get hit with a wall of toxic sweatlords attacking them for not knowing how to play the game.

The game is a mess and is not being designed for your average MMO player anymore. Asmon is right, the focus of most of the game these days is on people that play the game as a profession.

[Ghostile]

I think retail is bleeding players like crazy.

There is no need for feelycraft, you can check m+ participation across expansions for the data.

Almost every instance encounter requires some kind addon to be able to track what is going on.

The game is just bloated with too many systems, too many complex specs that require rotation helpers even for better players.

The "the reason I'm bad is because even good players require rotation helpers" is my favorite fantasy people create to feel better about refusing to learn the game.

Mate, you can get 3 bosses into mythic raid before an encounter has a mechanic that an addon makes much easier.