ELECTION 2023! Early Referendum on MAGA Shutdown?

[gondrin]

You can say this all you want but look at the reception Trump got during Hegseth's little speech. Utter silence from the Generals. Hegseth and sycophants like him can give orders all they want. The people who actually matter, the military brass, they're not going to start an open civil war with the American public.

So stop the doomerism. Time to come back to reality.

And once again, as of now, Hegseth is actively replacing those same generals.

Anyone, back to topic, Couchfucker's Half-brother Cory Bowman was running for mayor of Cincinnati. Lost to Aftab Pureval 78.2% to 21.8%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...mayor-results/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...008aa409&ei=58

[PACOX]

And once again, as of now, Hegseth is actively replacing those same generals.

Anyone, back to topic, Couchfucker's Half-brother Cory Bowman was running for mayor of Cincinnati. Lost to Aftab Pureval 78.2% to 21.8%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...mayor-results/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...008aa409&ei=58

They are creating a bubble that's going to pop. ICE and BP are steadily seeing issues because surprise, a lot of the people they hired are not qualified. I don't feel like digging through articles so believe me or look it up. It won't be long until their incompetence ways down whatever the administration is trying to do.

Armed forces morale is going down and it's going to impact enlistment. No one wants to serve under this clowns or go out of their way that requires them to do anything short of a court marshall. Worse is that they've started to mess with the civil side of things. All the contractors who work along with the military, people who aren't subject to the military. People who can quit.The administration had to go back several times when trying to strong arm and intimidate federal workers, good luck with private contractors. Short term the administration can get away with with their games, not so much in the long.

[Poopymonster]

Not sure we can look at it quite that way. The current Democratic governor of NJ isn’t exactly Mr. Popular and Sherrill is also pretty blah. Not to mention it’s been a very long time since NJ had back to back Democratic governors. So the Republican candidate had as good a shot as anyone would hope for and he campaigned extremely hard. He should have won. If he’s losing it’s because of Trump.

He lost because he wanted to be the Trump of NJ. He said that.
That's his own fault for being shithouse rat crazy.

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Need a wellness check on the following people...

KArl Rove
Alan Dershowitz
Bill Ackman

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That the worst people are eating *@$#! right now, makes me kinda warm.

Well, looks like the new Mayor is already getting rid of criminals .

[fwc577]

Someone changed Senile Grandpa's diapers and calmed him down a bit.

Says he's going to be having a conversation with the Republicans about what last night's election represents and what they can do about it because he feels the shutdown hurt them bigly. Oh boy. Watch out. Shutdown is going to be over by Friday.

If Trump can somehow convince them to go nuclear, it's over for the GOP. Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028. Their will be no filibuster. Dems will get a trifecta since the Republicans will have ZERO shot at retaining both chambers or the Presidency with the economy in shambles, people hurting worse than ever, and 3x-12x increases in ACA premiums.

I think the shutdown will end with capitulation on a 1-year extension to ACA and then let Congress handle it from there.

[Breccia]

I think the shutdown will end with capitulation on a 1-year extension to ACA and then let Congress handle it from there.

The current proposal is two years. After last night's results, I see no reason why the moderate/bipartisan bill would need to be weakened further. Dems have proven they are not viewed as the villains in this context.

Other than that I hope you're right. Like I posted, even Trump has admitted that people blame Republicans (didn't say himself, but then, he is senile and retarded) for the shutdown, causing these results. Trump does not care about people, anyone willing to withhold food stamps until they agree to lose health care is clearly a sociopath. But he cares about image, and he knows his image will be tarnished if Speaker Johnson brings a bill that says "we have five hundred signatures on this bill to reopen the government, sign it fatty" whether he agrees or not. This never should have happened, but what matters is now there are consequences for him.

[Xyonai]

Also where oh where is our somewhat concerned poster to remark about and back up their claims about how utterly unelectable democrats will always be? I could've sworn they were very adamant about how Dems will never have power again, that the people dislike them, and that Trump's virtuous economic policies will turn voters off the party forever.

[Milchshake]

I really love this for them. GOP Senators vibes are like; "I wish i was someplce else playing the new WoW patch...."

[Canpinter]

Definitely think it was SNAP benefits being cut that's turned this from a decent night for Democrats to the sweep it was. Something that big hitting tens of millions less then a week before the election has got to make a big difference.

[Breccia]

Bannon begs Trump to wake up due to results of election.

However, he also points in a telling new direction.

Bannon added that the economy “overall,” rather than affordability, will be the theme of the 2026 midterms

In other words, he wants the GOP to just say the economy is doing well, despite there being clear and obvious signs it isn't on the average American wallet.

It's a double-downing of the same. If the facts don't back your case, lie. Make shit up. Layoffs are on the rise, here is a list updated as of yesterday, here is another one from last week. Inflation is rising, not falling, a direct result of Trump's tariffs. Health care expenses are up, they are expected to rise 8% in 2025 but rose 3% from 2020 to 2024, and does not match the spike we're seeing this year. Energy costs are rising double the rate of inflation. The housing market is stalled as people facing uncertain future back out of buying, and a second one-quarter-percent cut will not change an uncertain outlook.

But Trump will still say "the economy is good!" to the people out of work and starving. That's the plan.

UPDATE: Literally seconds later!

This asshole...

"The economy is BOOMING" he says, despite, you know, evidence of this.

[Kathandira]

I don't know what other people are doing with their money, but with what I see in this economy, I am hoarding my money and not spending it. I don't think I am doing much of anything to help this economy.

If others were smart they'd be doing the same. And if they were, that is not good for businesses, and by extension the US economy.

[Xyonai]

And from Johnson's presser this morning, apparently whoever bet on 'They're going to just double down' might get their payout.

I think they're just hoping to ride this out and weather the momentum either because they think that these elections don't/won't matter to their power, or they've actually gone so far up their own ass that they think these elections are flukes and that they're still the prettiest and most popular political party to ever exist despite all evidence to the contrary.

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I don't know what other people are doing with their money, but with what I see in this economy, I am hoarding my money and not spending it. I don't think I am doing much of anything to help this economy.

If others were smart they'd be doing the same. And if they were, that is not good for businesses, and by extension the US economy.

Yeah even in my immediate circles, spending habits have been dramatically curbed and spending trends nation-wide continue to gradually nosedive. The holidays will be a real indicator on how fucked we are, esp if Air Traffic continues to stall from the shutdown and/or laid off air traffic controllers.

[Fugus]

I don't know what other people are doing with their money, but with what I see in this economy, I am hoarding my money and not spending it. I don't think I am doing much of anything to help this economy.

If others were smart they'd be doing the same. And if they were, that is not good for businesses, and by extension the US economy.

I’m trying to save my cash but shits hitting from all sides.

I think something is up with my wiring at my house so have to get that fixed. And trying to get a nephew setup for college while helping with a root canal he ended up having to get.

Plus my PC failed but got an old fallback and not bothering to fix that till the prices get less crazy.

[Kathandira]

I’m trying to save my cash but shits hitting from all sides.

I think something is up with my wiring at my house so have to get that fixed. And trying to get a nephew setup for college while helping with a root canal he ended up having to get.

Plus my PC failed but got an old fallback and not bothering to fix that till the prices get less crazy.

Ouch man!! If my words mean anything, root canal is a priority. Next step after that if it doesn't get taken care of is extraction. Cheaper, but quite permanent, and way more expensive than the root canal to get an implant.

[Fugus]

Ouch man!! If my words mean anything, root canal is a priority. Next step after that if it doesn't get taken care of is extraction. Cheaper, but quite permanent, and way more expensive than the root canal to get an implant.

I know. And I’ve been helping cover it and his insurance didn’t cover dental for the first half.

So spent around 2.3k so far for the root canal between X-rays and all. And the crown would be an extra 1.8k if we didn’t get this insurance.

They said he needed 3 of them in the future. But not bothering any of the others till either they start hurting or when he starts college and blue cross blue shield is part of his on campus package.

The “fun” part for me is I’ve been trying to make sure the family don’t think I’m the one paying for most of it because I prefer they think I’m broke.

[Rasulis]

Cost of living was dominant last night. New York did not elect Mandani because he is a socialist. But because he promised a more affordable New York. The same with the other states. Cost of living has increased to the point that it is affecting the middle class.

Anecdotal evidence - Florida Atlantic College of Business survey - 25% of Floridians are considering leaving the state.

Prop 50 created a map for other blue states with independent redistricting body to gerrymander their states.

Newsom did a good job passing Prop 50. Redistricting was mentioned as an off the cuff comment at an interview during his Southern States tour in July. Basically, Newsom had the map drawn, convinced super majority of CA legislatures to vote for it, fundraised $100 million, and ran a campaign that shift a tepid initial 51% voter support to 64% victory in less than 4 months. Quite an achievement.

Trump is making the same mistakes that Biden did with the economy. Telling the voters that feel that the economy is getting worse for them that they are wrong. At least during Biden’s presidency, unemployment was lower, jobs were aplenty, and wages were increasing faster than inflation.

[alach]

Biden actually had economic plans put in place and was working on it but people yet again were too impatient, blamed him and voted trump in, who has nothing at all to help the people and scuttled all of Biden's major plans and investments.
But he had a 20s themed gala and is building a multi-million dollar ballroom so he still enjoys 40% support.

[Kathandira]

I know. And I’ve been helping cover it and his insurance didn’t cover dental for the first half.

So spent around 2.3k so far for the root canal between X-rays and all. And the crown would be an extra 1.8k if we didn’t get this insurance.

They said he needed 3 of them in the future. But not bothering any of the others till either they start hurting or when he starts college and blue cross blue shield is part of his on campus package.

The “fun” part for me is I’ve been trying to make sure the family don’t think I’m the one paying for most of it because I prefer they think I’m broke.

You're a good man Charlie Brown. Dental pain is excruciating. You will be silently thanked for years upon years.

[Rasulis]

I would like to add that CA new map was supposed to add five Democrats friendly district. In the process, Kim Young (R) district turned from competitive to safe GOP. However, using Prop 50 win map last night, her district is still competitive. Prop 50 "yes" won by 2 pts in her new district. Instead of 5, Democrats could gain 6 seats in CA.

[s_bushido]

In other words, he wants the GOP to just say the economy is doing well, despite there being clear and obvious signs it isn't on the average American wallet.

Thing is, the economy could be "doing well" because the average American wallet doesn't really matter to it anymore. It's all about the super wealthy playing their numbers games...the suffering of the rest of us plebs is just an asterisk.

[Rasulis]

GOP lost super majority in Mississippi Senate. Is it a big deal? Yep. You need super majority vote to do redistricting in Mississippi. At least for the midterm 2026, Mississippi redistricting is out.