Poll: What is your most important election in 2023?

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  1. #121
    For those interested, take a look at the amendments voted on in Texas. While some of them are at least decent. On the overall those retards just sold out their kids to a worse life unless they flee that shit hole.

    Most of them are basically just blocked even the possibility for future taxes from being imposed should the current pro-business, anti-citizen government loses power as a way to cement their views. But those things could also be addressed with federal taxes high enough make up for it with salt deductions so other states aren’t being punished for funding their own stuff properly. Also would keep it from being used as a tax haven if the federal government makes sure those rates are paid regardless. Would also help cover the increasing welfare costs likely to happen in Texas as gas consumption is reduced regardless of what they want and they are blocking development on future energy sources the whole world, us included, know is coming.

    As well as some parents bill of rights where they are trying to allow dumb fuck adults to raise dumb fuck kids without the hope of the educators correcting their mistakes with facts so instead it will fall on the friends, their friends friends, and their online associates to laugh, shame, and ridicule their parents horrible beliefs out of them.

    So, mainly just cutting funding for the future and hoping to create a tax haven with a base too stupid to know any better. Or at least by them a decade or two of time before it can be repealed.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    If that's all you're focusing on, is the results themselves and whether they will have a direct impact, of course it's going to seem like a big lot of nothing. But those handful of high-profile elections the poll mentions, that everyone knows about, those weren't the only elections happening. There were hundreds of (yes, small, local) elections going on.

    The Republicans lost virtually across the board. Moms for Liberty, the group that's been running for things like school board in order to ban LGBT books? They ran 31 candidates across various cities and states and every single one lost. And that includes all of their candidates who they'd already put into office, who were now up for reelection, and just got booted out. Maine passed a gun reform bill! Democrats broke the Republicans' 13-year supermajority in the Mississippi legislature!

    And you also can't lose sight of the fact that this is an off-year election. Turn-out in such cases is historically incredibly low. This year? Turn-out was at record highs.

    Yes, the individual results themselves may mean very little. But taken as a whole, this America telling Republicans to fuck off writ large.
    I've been watching a race in CO for a school board seat after I came across Holly Wither's account on TikTok.

    As of right now, Holly Withers has beaten Mom's For Liberty Incumbent Jamilynn D'Avola by 16 votes.

    This is a School Board located in CO's 5th District. Current house representative is Republican Jeff Crank who won in 2024 54.66% to 40.87%.
    The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

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    Honestly, the difference between most of these elections and Mamdani is fascinating.

    As in most of then people were voting against something. Mostly against Trump.
    NYC? Lots of people were voting for Mamdani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    As well as some parents bill of rights where they are trying to allow dumb fuck adults to raise dumb fuck kids without the hope of the educators correcting their mistakes with facts so instead it will fall on the friends, their friends friends, and their online associates to laugh, shame, and ridicule their parents horrible beliefs out of them.
    All "parental bill of rights" nonsense boils down to a legalization of child abuse. Whether it's the "right" to use corporal punishment (hitting your kids), the "right" to miseducate your kids on purpose because you're a ridiculous willfully ignorant troglodyte, the "right" to abuse your kids for being LGBTQ+ and too scared of you to be honest about it with you, etc.

    It's all abuse. Every single person supporting such bills who has children should be investigated by CPS, just for having supported such bills. A teacher might find out you're an abusive schmuck and report you to CPS and you might lose your kids? Good. Fuckwads. Teachers need to have the authority to protect their students, even if that means from that students' own parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzjhath View Post
    Honestly, the difference between most of these elections and Mamdani is fascinating.

    As in most of then people were voting against something. Mostly against Trump.
    NYC? Lots of people were voting for Mamdani
    Nah that applies to NYC too. People would have voided for a ham sandwich before Cuomo or Adams, who are birth Democrats. Anything or anyone that wasn't seen as a establishment corporate Democrat. In an alternate universe you might have seen Curtis Sliwa get elected before Cuomo (or Eric Adams) if that was the ticket. New Yorkers are growing increasingly tired of that brand of politician. They genuinely did not care about how little the DNC supported Mamdani or the allegations against him that would have worked 10 years ago.

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    To add onto my earlier "unusually high turnout for an off-year election" note, once all the ballots have been counted, California is looking at 11.5 million total votes cast. For an election where Proposition 50 was literally the only thing on the ballot anywhere in the state. That's HALF of all registered voters, and higher than the turnout for the 2022 midterms.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Elenos View Post
    I really don't get the importance here of these elections.

    Democrats won in Blue States, actually scratch that except for VA they are all Deep Blue States.

    It's like cheering for a GOP candidate winning in....Alabama. It's exceptional if result goes otherwise.
    Wrong.. Democrats broke the Mississippi super majority that they have had for decades. Democrats flipped 2 seats in Georgia, JD Vance's half brother lost by over 50 points in Cincinatti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Wrong.. Democrats broke the Mississippi super majority that they have had for decades. Democrats flipped 2 seats in Georgia, JD Vance's half brother lost by over 50 points in Cincinatti.
    Well that's actually something important

    As opposed to the damned focus on NYC or NJ or CA or VA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elenos View Post
    Well that's actually something important

    As opposed to the damned focus on NYC or NJ or CA or VA!
    Your need to minimize events that matter in the long run are pretty tired, honestly. And not even subtle lol Can we just leave the actual GOP to push all their own shit, rather than do it on random forums for them?

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    In Minnesota the Minnesota Parents Alliance backed 11 candidates and 10 of them lost. I'll let you guess what they believe in.

    I could blame Trump for this but conservative school board members have been pretty tiresome everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    In Minnesota the Minnesota Parents Alliance backed 11 candidates and 10 of them lost. I'll let you guess what they believe in.

    I could blame Trump for this but conservative school board members have been pretty tiresome everywhere.
    If this is like a Moms 4 Liberty group. Good. Fuck their candidates. And to borrow the words of Jay Jones, fuck the little fascists they're breeding too.
    The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

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    So overall it looks like a win for <establishment dems>?
    Pelosi and Newsom, <establishment dems>, did a lot of behind the scenes fundraising and organizing for the Prop 50 effort.
    <establishment dems> also over preformed in their races comparatively to <not establishment dems>.

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    It looks like even Texas Latinos are pulling back from the GOP.

    UNIDOSUS BIPARTISAN POLL OF HISPANIC VOTERS IN TEXAS: THE ROAD TO 2026

    One interesting finding - 20% of those surveyed that voted for Trump won't vote for him again. Only 1% of those that voted for Harris won't vote for her again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It looks like even Texas Latinos are pulling back from the GOP.

    UNIDOSUS BIPARTISAN POLL OF HISPANIC VOTERS IN TEXAS: THE ROAD TO 2026

    One interesting finding - 20% of those surveyed that voted for Trump won't vote for him again. Only 1% of those that voted for Harris won't vote for her again.
    In other news. 80% of Trump voters surveyed over their views of Trump are fucking retarded.
    The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It looks like even Texas Latinos are pulling back from the GOP.

    UNIDOSUS BIPARTISAN POLL OF HISPANIC VOTERS IN TEXAS: THE ROAD TO 2026

    One interesting finding - 20% of those surveyed that voted for Trump won't vote for him again. Only 1% of those that voted for Harris won't vote for her again.
    I mean, if we go by the actual laws...100% of Texans will not vote for Trump again...because he cannot run again.
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  16. #136
    https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1...han-greenblatt

    ADL seems big mad about the Mamdani win and is setting up a "Mamndani Monitor" initiative.

    It's totally not because he's Muslim or anything. It's because 2/3 of Jews in New York didn't vote for him and the ADL, who are not an elected body in New York City, want to represent them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1...han-greenblatt

    ADL seems big mad about the Mamdani win and is setting up a "Mamndani Monitor" initiative.

    It's totally not because he's Muslim or anything. It's because 2/3 of Jews in New York didn't vote for him and the ADL, who are not an elected body in New York City, want to represent them.
    This is the same ADL that's grown increasingly soft on antisemitism when it comes from their right-wing buddies. I've long-since stopped giving them much credence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    A+ for Zoltan Mommydaddy.

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    Democrats swept elections far beyond the big races in referendum on Trump

    In Pennsylvania’s Bucks County, voters elected a Democratic district attorney for the first time since the 1800s, part of a Democratic sweep of every county office including controller and recorder of deeds.

    In Georgia, Democrats ousted two Republicans on the Public Service Commission, the party’s first capture of a nonfederal statewide office in Georgia since 2006. In Connecticut, Democrats took control of 28 individual towns from the GOP. In New Jersey, Democrats won their biggest majority in the General Assembly since the Watergate era.

    Much of the attention Tuesday night focused on the Democrats’ big wins in the Virginia and New Jersey governor’s races, as well as in the New York mayor’s contest. But the party also won hundreds of lower-profile state and local contests — often swamping Republican incumbents with overwhelming turnout, suggesting that voters’ desire to send a message opposing President Donald Trump was deep and wide.

    “Voters are not just mad — they’re really mad, and they are willing to do something about it,” said Dan McCormick, a Pennsylvania Democratic strategist who is now serving as campaign manager for congressional candidate Bob Harvie. “Voters got their first opportunity to push back on the chaos that is happening within the Trump administration.”

    Republican strategist Christopher Nicholas estimated that of the 480-plus contested races in Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh, Republicans won 11.

    Still, he noted that just a year ago it was the GOP that was celebrating unexpected wins, and he said politics is always cyclical. “We have a pendulum in politics, and it is undefeated,” Nicholas said. “Last year you could say was a referendum on Joe Biden’s America. And Tuesday you could say was a referendum on Trump 2’s first year.”

    In Connecticut, numerous towns, from Plymouth to Westport, had their mayor or first selectman positions switch from Republican to Democrat, or else saw the council majority flip to the Democrats.

    “It was historic, not just a periodic pendulum swing,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut) said in an interview. “It reflects a deep dissatisfaction with the rising costs of electricity, rents, mortgages, food — everything, including health care.”

    Tuesday’s surge was exemplified by Bucks County, a suburban stretch outside Philadelphia that is widely considered a crucial swing county in a hotly contested state. Trump defeated Vice President Kamala Harris there by a few hundred votes.

    Tuesday was a different story.

    In the race for Bucks County district attorney, Democrat Joe Khan ousted incumbent Republican Jennifer Schorn by 54 percent to 46 percent, becoming the first Democrat since the 19th century to win the office.

    In a closely watched sheriff’s race, Democrat Danny Ceisler knocked off Republican Fred Harran, unseating an incumbent who played up his partnership with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the agency spearheading the Trump administration’s controversial mass deportation effort.

    They were part of a sweep that put Democrats in charge of every one of the county’s nine elected executive offices for the first time since the 1800s. And it wasn’t just the county races; in Bensalem Township, a Republican stronghold within Bucks County, Democrats flipped three of the five seats on the township council to seize the majority.

    Accustomed to scraping for every vote in the area, Democrats suddenly found themselves winning races by 10 percentage points.

    “To see this type of a surge, especially leading up to the midterms, we are feeling pretty confident,” McCormick said. “This was the first time Bucks County voters had the opportunity push back against Trump, and they made their voices heard quite loudly.”

    Republicans, while acknowledging their losses, downplayed them as typical results in Democratic-leaning areas and argued they said little about the mood of the country.

    “There’s no surprises,” House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) told reporters Wednesday. “What happened last night was blue states and blue cities voted blue. We all saw that coming. And no one should read too much into last night’s election results.”

    But other Republicans said their party needs to get the message that Americans are deeply concerned about the cost of living. Trump ran on a promise to end inflation, but the headlines of his second term have focused on his firing of federal workers, his construction of a ballroom, the government shutdown and similar hot-button issues.

    “I think we need to heed what the voters are telling us — they want us to focus on pocketbook issues, which is part and parcel of how Trump got elected in the first place,” Nicholas said. “Perhaps we have run enough ads on the trans issue for a while.”

    Local elections attract far less attention than races for governor or senator. But these offices are critically important, and they often prepare local politicians to rise to higher office. Democrats in recent years have struggled to capture them, leaving the party without a robust farm-team system.

    Tuesday’s sweep is hardly a guarantee that Democrats will do well in next year’s congressional elections. But decisive victories can create momentum, sparking a surge in a party’s donations, enthusiasm and recruitment.

    Democratic leaders acknowledge they have a long way to go in crafting a message and identity that will appeal to voters independent of their opposition to Trump. That identity may not emerge until Democrats settle on a presidential nominee in 2028.

    For now, party leaders are enjoying the unexpected scope of Tuesday’s wins.

    In New Jersey, Democrats seem poised to capture at least a 56-24 majority in the General Assembly, giving them a two-thirds supermajority for the first time since 2019, and their biggest edge in the Assembly since the Watergate era.

    That was driven by a surging Democratic turnout. Micah Rasmussen, director of the Rebovich Institute for New Jersey Politics at Rider University in Lawrence, said Democrats dominated mail-in voting, then in-person early voting, and then Election Day voting.

    “Republicans just could not keep up,” Rasmussen said. “A wave came their way and they couldn’t get out of the way.”

    That startling turnout was prompted by a startling presidency, he said.

    “We have not had somebody knocking down part of the White House before. We haven’t had people in the street rounding up people before,” Rasmussen said. “I think all those gains that Trump made in the electorate last year are seemingly gone, at least for the moment. Trump giveth and Trump taketh away.”

    Some of Democrats’ gains came in unlikely parts of the country. In Georgia, Democrats unexpectedly knocked off two incumbents on the state’s Public Service Commission, which regulates major utilities.

    That marked the first time Democrats had won statewide office beyond the U.S. Senate in Georgia since 2006. While the positions are relatively low-profile, they are tied directly to the volatile issue of affordability, since the commission helps determine Georgians’ energy bills. And the Democratic victors, Alicia Johnson and Peter Hubbard, both won their seats by decisive margins of roughly 63-37.

    Zachary Peskowitz, a political science professor at Emory University, said the results do not mean much for the midterms, including the closely watched reelection campaign of Democratic Sen. Jon Ossoff. Many of Georgia’s Democratic-leaning municipalities held elections on Tuesday, Peskowitz said, driving up the party’s turnout in a way that will not hold true for 2026.

    “The surprising aspect was that the Democrats won with overwhelming margins,” Peskowitz said. “But I would caution against saying this is reflective of a big Democratic shift that will continue in Georgia in 2026 and beyond.”

    Other states also saw Democratic gains. In Mississippi, Democrats took two seats in the state senate, breaking a Republican supermajority, although that may have reflected a court-ordered redistricting rather than a Democratic surge.

    Republicans also suffered losses on school boards across the country. In Colorado, progressives swept out conservative majorities in at least three school districts, according to the industry publication Chalkbeat.

    In Pennsylvania, Democrats won each of the four contested races on the Central Bucks School District, leaving them with all nine seats on the panel.

    That marked a sharp reversal from several years ago, when Moms for Liberty and other conservative groups took over numerous school districts. At the time, the country was engulfed in a debate over how to teach about sexual orientation and racial discrimination.

    Many Democrats contend that the powerful anti-Trump sentiment evident in Tuesday’s results will carry over to the midterms, especially since the president’s record suggests he will not moderate his behavior in response to political trends.

    But Blumenthal warned against taking anything for granted, in part because of Trump’s sweeping efforts to affect the vote through redistricting, intervening in state election systems and similar heavy-handed measures.

    “As an elected official, I always tell supporters complacency is the enemy,” Blumenthal said. He added, “The president has the biggest megaphone of anyone in the country. He has a platform that eclipses everybody else’s, and he has shown that he has no scruples about misinformation and myths.”


    Cautious but hopeful and keep knocking doors.

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