Trader's Gilded Brutosaur Auction House Mount Now Available on the WoW Shop

[Relapses]

Sadly, He is right. I don't want open borders. Have you been in Mexico? Do you understand Mexico problems? Life in the border?. I do. I'm half Mexican/US myself. I have never seen a streamer so right about all of those topics that you shared. But the most important one: WoW shop mounts. Those are the most creative form of scam.
About the other topics, I earned my right to be called US citizen. I don't like illegals (you have no idea how they are and the education they have), the US for many generations in Mexico has been know as a white country that recently started to be diverse, but still, founded by white europeans.
Now, that this guy talks about topics we normaly don't want to talk about in public....now that is his problem, he express his ideas way too openly, but most people thinks like that.

You're right that Asmon speaks on behalf of many common bigotries Americans have. The problem is that he considers this bigotry to be innately good and then uses the idea of ultra nationalism to prop it up. I think the country would be better served if we examined why those biases exist and did everything in our power to remove arbitrary barriers in society which are upheld by imaginary constructs hundreds of years in the making. There is one single lived human experience and people like Asmon would sooner set the entire world back to the Stone Ages then admit maybe hating marginalized people for simply existing isn't a long-term political solution. He might occasionally be right with his anti-corruption, anti-late stage capitalist populist rhetoric, but being right about some stuff doesn't excuse somebody from being dead wrong about almost everything else.

[Xilurm]

The funny is people thinking its a waste, they shoukd not buy etc...

They just forgot that people work, get paid for it and they have the will to spend their earned money anywhere they want

For illegal things too? Or are we only only judging people if they spent their money on whatever things some rich fuck deemed legal or not.

All this crap, lootboxes, overpriced and scummy microtransactions are a plague on the industry and are all about manipulating people's psyche in order to get money. I don't give a fuck who you think has a right to spend their money wherever they want.

[meroes]

Yaaaaaas! I've spent $90 on this plus $130 for midnight and i have another $300 or so for housing!

[Ielenia]

If you would give me $90, I could live for 43 days on that money in my country. Let that sink in.
Extending a human life or vanity. And after that, all of you think that you deserve to be anywhere else than hell....

Quit acting like Blizzard is forcing you to buy the mount. You don't have to buy it. This feels very much like a "woe is me" post.

[Altmer]

You're right that Asmon speaks on behalf of many common bigotries Americans have. The problem is that he considers this bigotry to be innately good and then uses the idea of ultra nationalism to prop it up. I think the country would be better served if we examined why those biases exist and did everything in our power to remove arbitrary barriers in society which are upheld by imaginary constructs hundreds of years in the making. There is one single lived human experience and people like Asmon would sooner set the entire world back to the Stone Ages then admit maybe hating marginalized people for simply existing isn't a long-term political solution. He might occasionally be right with his anti-corruption, anti-late stage capitalist populist rhetoric, but being right about some stuff doesn't excuse somebody from being dead wrong about almost everything else.

Last time I reply to this topic: Again, you are missing the point of his rants. Is not about skin color, is about mistaken ideals and behaviors that you don't see in well educated communities (most of the times, white ones) around the US/World. Like, for example, why countries like Norway, Sweden or Finland.
If you ask me What is wrong with Mexico?. I could give you a long answer about that one....And still, he is right about the way he thinks. Specially with the current state of WoW and games shops.

[Relapses]

Last time I reply to this topic: Again, you are missing the point of his rants. Is not about skin color, is about mistaken ideals and behaviors that you don't see in well educated communities (most of the times, white ones) around the US/World. Like, for example, why countries like Norway, Sweden or Finland.
If you ask me What is wrong with Mexico?. I could give you a long answer about that one....And still, he is right about the way he thinks. Specially with the current state of WoW and games shops.

Anybody who uncritically supports Nazi rhetoric isn't anything other than right-wing. There's a reason I laugh at people who think the US needs to do a People's Lebensraum. In the mind of a simpleton like Asmon, the "problem" of Mexico is that it just happens to share a border America. He'll never examine the systemic issues which have led to the massive quality of life disparities between that of North and South America because he doesn't need to. He can just signal boost whatever popular anti-immigrant nonsense Trump or dipshits like Nick Fuentes are cooking up while simultaneously claiming he "doesn't necessarily agree with {their} views," to shield himself from the obvious criticism this garners. It's a cowardly tactic used by enlightened centrists to shift the Overton Window even further to the right.

[Ashana Darkmoon]

I'm just trying to get over "no pointless wars" and "I support military-enforced regime change in Venezuela"

At least pick a lane! Is regime change only bad in the Middle East? Because...I don't know, maybe read a book on the history of coups in by the CIA and see how they turned out

[Nzx]

You're the one supporting anti-consumer practices man. I don't care what your excuse is. You can buy this and be quiet about it, but being proud of your purchase which costs more than AAA release even though the amount of work that went into creating it is nowhere near the amount of work that goes into creating full AAA games. They don't need to sell it for that much. The only reason it costs that much is because of greed, and you're enabling them.

It's worth $90 to me more than Assassin's Creed 92 or CoD 7000 or whatever tf else is worth $90 to me. Given how many of them I see in game, it seems appropriately priced.

I'm so bored of being told to shut up about buying it when you guys won't quit bitching out loud about how much you're not going to buy it. Especially on a forum full of people who are proud thieves that play on private servers when they don't like the way the game is designed.

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But Asmon is really far away from being a "Nazi" or a racist.

Fucking lol. Jump through hoops all you want, your idol wipes the flesh of his decaying gums on his own walls. He's created his very own "third world" inside the borders of his house.

[Altmer]

Anybody who uncritically supports Nazi rhetoric isn't anything other than right-wing. There's a reason I laugh at people who think the US needs to do a People's Lebensraum. In the mind of a simpleton like Asmon, the "problem" of Mexico is that it just happens to share a border America. He'll never examine the systemic issues which have led to the massive quality of life disparities between that of North and South America because he doesn't need to. He can just signal boost whatever popular anti-immigrant nonsense Trump or dipshits like Nick Fuentes are cooking up while simultaneously claiming he "doesn't necessarily agree with {their} views," to shield himself from the obvious criticism this garners. It's a cowardly tactic used by enlightened centrists to shift the Overton Window even further to the right.

I'm not going to continue with this, but you are really, really ignorant about third world countries problems and the reasons behind their problems. I have Mexico 3hrs from here and visit the country quiet often and many of the things he says, are quiet accurate to reality. (I saw his last video about Mexico, and damn, this dude knows what is the deal in Mexico better than CNN or FoxNews). And by the way, no one in their sane senses would waste 90USD in a WoW mount in Mexico. I mean, they would play the game, but not burn money like that. But Asmon is really far away from being a "Nazi" or a racist. More like he point out the mistaken ideals just like he makes fun of that loser Hasan. No wonder why Hasan is so much into Asmon, just like you are. They feel offended by his logic.

[Relapses]

It's worth $90 to me more than Assassin's Creed 92 or CoD 7000 or whatever tf else is worth $90 to me. Given how many of them I see in game, it seems appropriately priced.

I'm so bored of being told to shut up about buying it when you guys won't quit bitching out loud about how much you're not going to buy it. Especially on a forum full of people who are proud thieves that play on private servers when they don't like the way the game is designed.

You're missing the point here; it's not the fact that you saw value it and bought it. It's the whole, "...and I'll do it again!" that's disappointing. Like, cool. Congratulations on your dinosaur mount. You do you, my man. But don't get salty when people call you a corpo apologist for being smug on forums about your purchase.

[Nzx]

You're missing the point here; it's not the fact that you saw value it and bought it. It's the whole, "...and I'll do it again!" that's disappointing. Like, cool. Congratulations on your dinosaur mount. You do you, my man. But don't get salty when people call you a corpo apologist for being smug on forums about your purchase.

This is like me saying "Like, cool. Congratulations on being a communist. You do you, my man. But don't get salty when people call you a broke bum for being smug on the forums about your political stance". Why are you all allowed to sit around and circlejerk about your opinions on this but when people who actually like it speak up about it everything just devolves into name calling and claiming it isn't possible to buy something like this without deepthroating anonymous billionaires?

FWIW I don't think you're a broke bum, but surely you understand the point.

[Relapses]

This is like me saying "Like, cool. Congratulations on being a communist. You do you, my man. But don't get salty when people call you a broke bum for being smug on the forums about your political stance". Why are you all allowed to sit around and circlejerk about your opinions on this but when people who actually like it speak up about it everything just devolves into name calling and claiming it isn't possible to buy something like this without deepthroating anonymous billionaires?

FWIW I don't think you're a broke bum, but surely you understand the point.

See, the difference between you and I is that I don't give the faintest fuck if somebody thinks I'm a broke ass bum. It's the cost of sharing opinions online. Some people are gonna fwi, some aren't. I'm not going to get needlessly defensive if somebody thinks my world view is unrealistic. I've done enough research on the topic myself to feel pretty secure with the way I see things. I simply do not -- and probably never will -- understand the need for certain segments of WoW's playerbase to act as a vanguard against some of the most egregious anti-consumer practices employed by Blizzard.

[Nzx]

See, the difference between you and I is that I don't give the faintest fuck if somebody thinks I'm a broke ass bum. It's the cost of sharing opinions online. Some people are gonna fwi, some aren't. I'm not going to get needlessly defensive if somebody thinks my world view is unrealistic. I've done enough research on the topic myself to feel pretty secure with the way I see things. I simply do not -- and probably never will -- understand the need for certain segments of WoW's playerbase to act as a vanguard against some of the most egregious anti-consumer practices employed by Blizzard.

I really don't understand what you're trying to say. I couldn't care less if people think it's "anti-consumer" for me to buy a Brutosaur (or two or three) either, I just came here to share my opinion. You've spent the last however many pages trying to tell me I'm a bad person for contributing to capitalism or whatever, and I guess it just isn't clear to me why it's apparently fine to be a "vanguard" rallying against the existence of MTX, in which case you're a totally chill definitely not annoyed at all people's champion, versus the virgin "its the cost of a dinner out for two I don't think it's that big of a deal". I hate the term virtue signalling but I really don't know what else to call it when people take great efforts to demonstrate to a bunch of strangers how much they don't want to spend money on something.

Anyway, we're just arguing in circles. There's clearly a philosophical disagreement here that goes beyond what there is any point discussing on a fan forum for a 20+ year old video game. Hope you have a good day!

[Relapses]

I really don't understand what you're trying to say. I couldn't care less if people think it's "anti-consumer" for me to buy a Brutosaur (or two or three) either, I just came here to share my opinion. You've spent the last however many pages trying to tell me I'm a bad person for contributing to capitalism or whatever, and I guess it just isn't clear to me why it's apparently fine to be a "vanguard" rallying against the existence of MTX, in which case you're a totally chill definitely not annoyed at all people's champion, versus the virgin "its the cost of a dinner out for two I don't think it's that big of a deal". I hate the term virtue signalling but I really don't know what else to call it when people take great efforts to demonstrate to a bunch of strangers how much they don't want to spend money on something.

Anyway, we're just arguing in circles. There's clearly a philosophical disagreement here that goes beyond what there is any point discussing on a fan forum for a 20+ year old video game. Hope you have a good day!

I don't think you're a bad person. I just think that being enthusiastic online about your decision to consume conspicuously is in bad taste; it also encourages Blizzard to learn the wrong lessons from selling $90 mounts. I'd prefer to live in the timeline where we don't keep falling into the abyss of predatory MTX, but consumers gonna consume. If all I can really do at the end of the day is be annoying about it, c'est la vie.

[Eapoe]

Any moderators around?

[Xilurm]

It's worth $90 to me more than Assassin's Creed 92 or CoD 7000 or whatever tf else is worth $90 to me. Given how many of them I see in game, it seems appropriately priced.

I'm so bored of being told to shut up about buying it when you guys won't quit bitching out loud about how much you're not going to buy it. Especially on a forum full of people who are proud thieves that play on private servers when they don't like the way the game is designed[I].

Good, you have the right to buy whatever you want. But why go out of your way to be proud about it? You sound like those company higher ups who mock lower class people and just tell them to "work more lol".

You being "bored" says a lot. You're privileged. Read the room. Oh no the guy who can spend $90 multiple times on a mount in a video game doesn't like being told to not act like a dick. Woe is me.

[Just Passing through]

Yea, but wasting money like that in a 90USD virtual mount, is just silly. Like I said, even if you are a super rich guy, is just dumb to get played like that by a company that sells video games and create such a silly "need" or "must have", and people fall to it.

We are back to the question - what is not silly? Are you telling me wasting money on smoking, gambling or gatting hammered is not silly and people aren't "being played"? Why do all kinds of dumb things get a pass, but in gaming it suddenly is a problem? I personally thing among the stupidest things people could buy are NFTs or Memecoins - yet they do.

Obviously I have a hard time wording this in a way that it doesn't come across as "defending Blizzard" - it is not meant that way, it is rather giving people the freedom, liberty and the right to decide about their own money.

And to keep this about Blizzard - even if I don't buy the mount - I would rather spend my money on it than buy a ticket to Blizzcon (even if that ticket was also 90 dollars)

[czarek]

I can bet in between all the haters are already buyers xD

[Just Passing through]

Any moderators around?

Helps to report a post that you consider problematic. They don't always come in all by themselves.

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I can bet in between all the haters are already buyers xD

Well, obviously - some posters here stated matter of factly that they bought the mount - and now are being accused of being "proud" of it.

[Eapoe]

Helps to report a post that you consider problematic. They don't always come in all by themselves.

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Well, obviously - some posters here stated matter of factly that they bought the mount - and now are being accused of being "proud" of it.

Eh, it’s more hoping people just stop the conversations not pertaining the the forum without actually reporting anything yet.