Draenei were done dirty with Housing

[ercarp]

Blood Elf mains can buy Silvermoon-themed items from one of the Decor Vendor NPCs for next to nothing. I think you can buy one of each item for less than 1000g.

Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.

Instead, we get the privilege of A) either buying exorbitantly priced furniture from the AH (prices are currently ranging from 30k to 200k per item), or B) grinding Warlords of Draenor reputations and Garrison Resources. And that is just to be able to create a home that meets the bare minimum of matching our race’s aesthetic.

For me, this cements Housing as a complete failure. I’m a Draenei main, it’s more or less the only race I’ve cared about playing since 2007. And Blizzard expects me to go on a wild goose chase grinding decade-old reputations and outdated currencies just to make a home that feels like a home? No thanks.

Meanwhile, Blood Elf players can just log in. That’s all they have to do.

[tufy123]

Blizzard sees Night Elves as Blood Elf counterpart. Not thst I don‘t agree with you, I spent a lot of time getting reputation and garrison resources to buy the basics.

I want the housing style though. And more crystals. And teleport to vindicaar. And talbuk farm. And… /overloads

[Darsithis]

I'm a little confused here. The draenei are not the counterparts to the blood elves, that would be the night elves, since they're literally related.

I think, though, that decor should be the same cost across the board for everyone. A draenei that wants to look like they're living in Brill should be able to, or a troll that wants to imagine they're in Stormwind can. I get that every faction/race has specific themes but why not open it all up.

Since this stuff IS warbound, though, can't you just create a belf, buy what you want, and then use it?

[Redwyrm]

I'm a little confused here. The draenei are not the counterparts to the blood elves, that would be the night elves, since they're literally related.

I think he meant "counterpart" in terms of when the races became available in TBC together.

[Cheezits]

Wow, ercarp posting in 2025?

The meta reason why Draenei got done dirty is because 3/4 of the most played races got their housing styles first. I am actually unsure what the fourth race most played race is but Humans/Nelves/Belves are a huge chunk of the playerbase. And then the "Orc" house is a very generic style that fits a lot of Horde Kalimdor races.

Oh- turns out the 4th most played race is Orc, so yeah.

[ercarp]

I'm a little confused here. The draenei are not the counterparts to the blood elves, that would be the night elves, since they're literally related.

I'm talking about it in gameplay terms, not from a lore perspective. Draenei and Blood Elves were undeniably the matching box-feature races for that expansion. That is the comparison being made.

Since this stuff IS warbound, though, can't you just create a belf, buy what you want, and then use it?

What are you even on about? Nowhere in my post did I mention wanting to buy Blood Elf decor. I want Draenei decor, and I want them to be made available in a way that matches the ease at which you can buy Blood Elf decor. Draenei have been in the game long enough that they might as well be considered one of the core races. We shouldn't have to jump through all these extra hoops just to get the bare minimum.

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Wow, ercarp posting in 2025?

Someone has to speak up for the space goat mains. There are dozens of us!

[Cysko]

Ya'll realize this is early access right?
Blizzard have said multiple times that many many more decor items will be available.
Even the Blood Elf and Night Elf Exteriors will only be available when Midnight releases.

Patience, my friend. Patience.

[ercarp]

Ya'll realize this is early access right?
Blizzard have said multiple times that many many more decor items will be available.
Even the Blood Elf and Night Elf Exteriors will only be available when Midnight releases.

Patience, my friend. Patience.

The issue is not in the amount of items being available, its in the acquisition method. And how that method is completely lopsided with Draenei vs. Blood Elves (who should be on more even footing in this regard). It's a slap in the face of all Draenei mains.

[Enrif]

i would wait how MID turns out. I have a feeling draenei will get some stuff.

[Darsithis]

What are you even on about? Nowhere in my post did I mention wanting to buy Blood Elf decor. I want Draenei decor, and I want them to be made available in a way that matches the ease at which you can buy Blood Elf decor. Draenei have been in the game long enough that they might as well be considered one of the core races. We shouldn't have to jump through all these extra hoops just to get the bare minimum.

Relax lol. Everyone misunderstands sometimes.

You want draenei-specific decor. I misread it. Surely some will come over time, this is just the first iteration. No doubt stuff will show up at the Exodar or something similar.

I think he meant "counterpart" in terms of when the races became available in TBC together.

Yeah I get that now

[Malania]

Blood Elf mains can buy Silvermoon-themed items from one of the Decor Vendor NPCs for next to nothing. I think you can buy one of each item for less than 1000g.

Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.

Instead, we get the privilege of A) either buying exorbitantly priced furniture from the AH (prices are currently ranging from 30k to 200k per item), or B) grinding Warlords of Draenor reputations and Garrison Resources. And that is just to be able to create a home that meets the bare minimum of matching our race’s aesthetic.

For me, this cements Housing as a complete failure. I’m a Draenei main, it’s more or less the only race I’ve cared about playing since 2007. And Blizzard expects me to go on a wild goose chase grinding decade-old reputations and outdated currencies just to make a home that feels like a home? No thanks.

Meanwhile, Blood Elf players can just log in. That’s all they have to do.

Everyone but Humans were. It's a totally unfinished release. But everyone knew that going in because they said more would be released over time. Just leave it for a while, at the very least until Midnight launches because its probably going to be reset then for everyone who didn't pre-order. At this point i'd just consider it a beta.

[ercarp]

I guarantee this is all of the Draenei decor we'll see for the foreseeable future. I've played this game long enough to know how little the developers care about Draenei. This "it's still Early Access" rhetoric is pure copium.

And even if they did add more, that doesn't change the fact you have to go grind WoD reputations to unlock them. No one should have to do that. And quite frankly I think whoever came up with that idea should be fired.

Expect more Blood Elf and Night Elf items in Midnight though. That I can promise.

[Redwyrm]

I guarantee this is all of the Draenei decor we'll see for the foreseeable future. I've played this game long enough to know how little the developers care about Draenei. This "it's still Early Access" rhetoric is pure copium.

And even if they did add more, that doesn't change the fact you have to go grind WoD reputations to unlock them. No one should have to do that. And quite frankly I think whoever came up with that idea should be fired.

Expect more Blood Elf and Night Elf items in Midnight though. That I can promise.

Possibly. But it would make sense for Blizzard to throw everything/item they can from all races into the system. Just for the fact that would keep players busy longer just to grind all the wanted items. The more collectible items they can shove into the game the better. And it's cheap in terms of development time. I doubt it takes long to throw together decor items that are for the most part already in-game as static background pieces normally. Limiting decor items would be like opening up a shoe store and only selling three types of shoes.

[Piratella]

I guarantee this is all of the Draenei decor we'll see for the foreseeable future. I've played this game long enough to know how little the developers care about Draenei. This "it's still Early Access" rhetoric is pure copium.

And even if they did add more, that doesn't change the fact you have to go grind WoD reputations to unlock them. No one should have to do that. And quite frankly I think whoever came up with that idea should be fired.

Expect more Blood Elf and Night Elf items in Midnight though. That I can promise.

Are you making promises you can't keep given that you don't actually know? And are you crying about playing an old part of the world in a game named WORLD of Warcraft, and not "most recent content zone" of warcraft?

My main is a draenei but I'm not upset that there isn't much. Because I know what "early access" means. I understand words. I'm actually quite happy with the green fel stuff at the moment as well. I'm actually still travelling around seeing what's what, rather than trying to rush everything in one day then getting upset about it all. C'mon people, it's been live for less than 24 hours, let's give it a little longer before we start crying about it.

[NekoOwlAzure]

They've literally been so lazy by making only human and orc neighbourhoods and only human and orc houses at launch. I mean this is housing, not garrisons. I can only say they've aesthetically (not opinionatedly) dropped the ball.

[xskarma]

Honestly, it's not just Draenei. It's anything not Belf/Human/Nelves/Orcs.

I'm a Warlock main. I like Warlocks of all races. I want fel stuff in my house. For my stuff I need Legion reputation and Legion orderhall resources and to play Lemix to unlock literally every major achievement, and collect VAST amounts of Bronze. And when Lemix is over, I can buy stuff with even more orderhall resources, from a vendor located in a PvP area.

So, yes, Draenei got a raw deal, but other flavors of housing aesthetics got an even worse deal. And not just fel, but good luck trying to build anything relevant for Gnomes, Kul Tirans, Forsaken, etc etc etc. It's all locked behind grinds and super expensive. And yes I know they said they will change some of the costs, but it won't be basically free like the majority of the Belf/Human/Nelf/Orc stuff is.

If you like anything that is not strictly mainstream, you are boned.

[Kathranis]

You guys understand that this is just the start of housing and they have four full development teams working on retail now, with one exclusively doing housing, right?

This is a completely new feature that required them to reengineer the engine to support it, create a whole new backend, and create thousands of new assets.

There are currently 1129 decor items available in Early Access, and more than double that in the Midnight beta.

In just the one month from the start of alpha on October 2 (12.0.0.63534) to the current beta build on November 19 (12.0.0.64499), they have added 500 new decor items.

They will be converting and adding pretty much every single prop to decor as they progress, and already have an autogen process to convert the old ones, though it still requires devs to test, fix, name, and add sources and costs to all of them. There will be hundreds, if not thousands, of new decor items in every content patch from now on.

As for the neighborhoods, they said they wanted to start with two so they could make sure everything was working properly and make sure players were all sharing the same spaces, not too spread out. Now that all the core systems are functioning, adding new neighborhoods is a relatively simple process that basically just requires level designers to build out the zones and populate them with empty plots and NPCs.

[Gurahk]

Well tough luck, but there is next to no Mag'har stuff either.

[Enrif]

Well tough luck, but there is next to no Mag'har stuff either.

mag'har stuff is just orc stuff? or do you mean industrial iron horde stuff?

[Lolites]

Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.

well nightelfs gets a lot, and their counterpart on horde, i suppose tauren, get nothing... so it seems tauren were done dirty, but i guess you dont care about that?

i wonder if night ELFS and blood ELFS instead of other races getting a lot of cosmetics could have something to do with us heading into ELFS expansion...
then again if you have to scrape the bottom of barrel this hard to find something to be mad about wow must be doing really well!