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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if even that refund pic is just fake or stolen.
    yeah, he gives vibes of "havent played in decade", like wowisdead or epigramx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Housing is made for humans, orcs and elves

    Other races dont matter / will get some crumbs in the future
    Other races can luckily use the existing items. They aren't race locked

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilpi View Post
    Other races can luckily use the existing items. They aren't race locked
    Luckily Warriors can also equip Cloth armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Luckily Warriors can also equip Cloth armor.
    Ok? That sounds like a weird thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Some draenei mains have actually been maining draenei for a decade and a half and already have whatever reputation.
    Yeah, because WoD was such a great expansion and everyone loved to play it. Right?

  6. #86
    It's going to be funny if housing flops.

    I mean, i respect different preferences but Blizzard should focus on updating the open world constantly ( yes the old zones as well ) with meaningful content and reasons to go out in the open world , not squeeze the player in an instanced area with fancy props sold on the cash shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haytham View Post
    It's going to be funny if housing flops.
    It's certainly not looking good so far. I'm already seeing a bit of friction but it'll be months/years before the more casual part of the player base wakes up to how blatantly disrespectful of the players' time decor acquisition actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    It's certainly not looking good so far. I'm already seeing a bit of friction but it'll be months/years before the more casual part of the player base wakes up to how blatantly disrespectful of the players' time decor acquisition actually is.
    If it wasn't so human and orc crap, or having to wait probably a long time before others are bought out, it'd be more worth it, js.

  9. #89
    I am assuming (although don't know for sure) that housing features do not include options for profession activities? Meaning no forge, fishing pond, tailoring objects, herb garden, etc. Like they did with garrisons. I know they don't want players spending all of their time in their house but offering amenities like that would make them more amenable.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    I guarantee this is all of the Draenei decor we'll see for the foreseeable future. I've played this game long enough to know how little the developers care about Draenei. This "it's still Early Access" rhetoric is pure copium.
    According to WoWDB, there are currently 51 Draenei themed items in the game. Thats more than: Zandalari (35), Undead (35), Tauren (35), Pandaren (46), Kul Tiran (37), Goblin (45), Dwarven (49), Gilnean (34) and Dracthyr (46). Not even counting races like Vulpera (2!!!). For a race that's not that popular, it's really a stretch saying you were done dirty. Yeah, a big part of Draenei themed items are crafted, but 1) prices will go down; 2) you can craft them yourself. You're comparing them to Blood Elf, by far the most popular race in the game; and with a style that suits many other races (all other elves or people who want a home with elegant look). Draenei items are super niche, because the style doesn't suit well any other race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    I am assuming (although don't know for sure) that housing features do not include options for profession activities? Meaning no forge, fishing pond, tailoring objects, herb garden, etc. Like they did with garrisons. I know they don't want players spending all of their time in their house but offering amenities like that would make them more amenable.
    I'd guess they will do it at some point and sell it as a patch/expansion feature. They've just started with housing, a new evergreen feature (or even a new pillar of gameplay); and I think they don't want to give us everything up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rageonit View Post
    I'd guess they will do it at some point and sell it as a patch/expansion feature. They've just started with housing, a new evergreen feature (or even a new pillar of gameplay); and I think they don't want to give us everything up front.
    A mailbox to start would be nice, just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rageonit View Post
    According to WoWDB, there are currently 51 Draenei themed items in the game. Thats more than... <bla bla bla>
    Let me stop you right there because you clearly didn't read the post. You just saw the title and assumed I was mad about a lack of items. I don't really care for repeating myself any more than I already have so I'll just quote my previous posts:

    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Blood Elf mains can buy Silvermoon-themed items from one of the Decor Vendor NPCs for next to nothing. I think you can buy one of each item for less than 1000g.

    Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    The issue is not in the amount of items being available, its in the acquisition method. And how that method is completely lopsided with Draenei vs. Blood Elves (who should be on more even footing in this regard).
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    The issue is not the lack of assets, it's in the method of acquisition. WoD reputations? Garrison Resources? I sound like a broken record having to say this over and over, but being forced to do decade-old content (especially something as tedious as reputation grinds) for Decor is objectively a bad idea. People only think it's good because "making old content relevant again" sounds good on paper.
    Next time, read the full post, not just the title. Hope this helps!

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    So you want Iron Horde stuff.
    Yes.. which is currently Mag'har stuff.

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    Posts like these remind me how critically out of touch the players are with how games are made, and what an evergreen feature is.

    Wrap it up guys, this ongoing constantly-updated-for-the-rest-of-the-game's-life feature is cemented permanently as a failure in its first iteration because of Blizzard's choice to focus on the 4 most popular races first, which accounts for ~45% (almost half) of the entire playerbase. Instead of his personal chosen race, which is moderately popular yet only 3% of the playerbase.

    What? We'll get everything he wants and likely more later, as they've created a pretty solid foundation that's easy to iterate on? Nah, its cemented as a failure. Permanently. What, this is an ongoing live service game that will absolutely evolve and change, especially when considering the overwhelming feedback regarding certain things like acquisition costs for furniture? Nah. Cemented as a failure, permanently. In 21 years from now, housing will look exactly as it does today. The entire feature has FAILED.

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    Sure are a lot of ancient posters in here... Uh, anyhoo, I hadn't realized the Draenei didn't get much furniture. However, if you're a big Draenei fan "since 2007", why the heck haven't you already done the Draenor content? It's all about your people!

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    Are Humans and Orcs popular? I can't see why they would be other than social cues. And I wonder if all races should build from the ground up rather than focusing on some races first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Yeah, you're right, we should all just quit "complaining" (also known as giving feedback, but who can tell the difference?) and take it while lying down. Damn. Thanks for waking me up and making me realize this.
    You're welcome

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    But I was right.
    That is why the game ended and WoW stopped being supported and no other expansions were created and everyone moved to FF14...

    Why are you even here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneirophobia View Post
    Sure are a lot of ancient posters in here... Uh, anyhoo, I hadn't realized the Draenei didn't get much furniture. However, if you're a big Draenei fan "since 2007", why the heck haven't you already done the Draenor content? It's all about your people!
    I have? But you'd have to be an extreme masochist to have bothered with reputation grinds during WoD. You young 'uns wouldn't get it since you weren't there, but the game was in a tailspin and playing it genuinely felt like investing in a dying product. It was the first time (out of two times total) I closed my sub and didn't think I was ever coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    I have? But you'd have to be an extreme masochist to have bothered with reputation grinds during WoD. You young 'uns wouldn't get it since you weren't there, but the game was in a tailspin and playing it genuinely felt like investing in a dying product. It was the first time (out of two times total) I closed my sub and didn't think I was ever coming back.
    But you could cap most of those reps with the rep omnitoken from Tanaan rares or the garrison which could even be sold in the AH

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