Draenei were done dirty with Housing

[saixilein]

I really want to go female draenei with my warrior in the next sale, i just fall in love with draeneis, and now im kinda sad about the low ammount of draenei items and that our guild went into the horde housing area

[Wyrt]

Got to make sure humans and orcs get stuff even though they already have garrisons.

[NekoOwlAzure]

Got to make sure humans and orcs get stuff even though they already have garrisons.

There is literally no reason why that's gotta be done.

[Doffen]

Just put your Heartstone to Exodar, geeez

[RobertMugabe]

Posts like these remind me how critically out of touch the players are with how games are made, and what an evergreen feature is.

Wrap it up guys, this ongoing constantly-updated-for-the-rest-of-the-game's-life feature is cemented permanently as a failure in its first iteration because of Blizzard's choice to focus on the 4 most popular races first, which accounts for ~45% (almost half) of the entire playerbase. Instead of his personal chosen race, which is moderately popular yet only 3% of the playerbase.

What? We'll get everything he wants and likely more later, as they've created a pretty solid foundation that's easy to iterate on? Nah, its cemented as a failure. Permanently. What, this is an ongoing live service game that will absolutely evolve and change, especially when considering the overwhelming feedback regarding certain things like acquisition costs for furniture? Nah. Cemented as a failure, permanently. In 21 years from now, housing will look exactly as it does today. The entire feature has FAILED.

OP knows, he sort-of admitted already that this thread is rage bait.

[Izalla]

It wouldn't be so bad if the draenei items could be crafted with basic materials but my god they need such rare and expensive stuff for each one! I tried to farm some khorium while on a lumber collection run last night (for the forge, banner, and anvil) and i found zero khorium nodes. Had to bite the bullet and buy some ore from the auction house so I could make at least one of the items and not feel like my night was a waste.

[Flarelaine]

Yeah, because WoD was such a great expansion and everyone loved to play it. Right?

A non sequitur. This is not about the expansion being great. This is about how people react when they find something they want ingame is locked behind - gasp! - playing the game. Some people proceed to do so. Others don't. Guess which group has the decors.

[Dacia Ultan]

Not me over here having to grind Draenor tailoring on my priest to get that damn bed. Don't get it twisted; my gripe is that it's tedious. (Also: we need more allied-race-themed items.)

[NekoOwlAzure]

IMO they really shouldn't have focused on Human and Orc first.

[Syegfryed]

Blood Elf mains can buy Silvermoon-themed items from one of the Decor Vendor NPCs for next to nothing. I think you can buy one of each item for less than 1000g.

Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.

Instead, we get the privilege of A) either buying exorbitantly priced furniture from the AH (prices are currently ranging from 30k to 200k per item), or B) grinding Warlords of Draenor reputations and Garrison Resources. And that is just to be able to create a home that meets the bare minimum of matching our race’s aesthetic.

For me, this cements Housing as a complete failure. I’m a Draenei main, it’s more or less the only race I’ve cared about playing since 2007. And Blizzard expects me to go on a wild goose chase grinding decade-old reputations and outdated currencies just to make a home that feels like a home? No thanks.

Meanwhile, Blood Elf players can just log in. That’s all they have to do.

There is only humans and elves in this game.

your complain is vallid, but if they do that, the night elf fans will screech in the foruns how they never get anything

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IMO they really shouldn't have focused on Human and Orc first.

Yeah they should have focus on night elves first right?

[Enrif]

IMO they really shouldn't have focused on Human and Orc first.

they always focus on human and orcs first. See Garrisons, see Warfronts, see any number of things that are faction coded. Other races are distant seconds, if at all, and depend on the most current situation

[NekoOwlAzure]

they always focus on human and orcs first. See Garrisons, see Warfronts, see any number of things that are faction coded. Other races are distant seconds, if at all, and depend on the most current situation

Yeah, they shouldn't. Back in Wotlk when I played through the Vanilla areas before getting to level 60, I didn't see Humans or Orcs as the "main" races, each just one of the races that was part of the game, and I didn't see stormwind and orgrimmar as "the main cities", they were each just one of the cities that were part of the game, they were on equal footing to others like Darnassus and Ironforge, they ruined that when they updated only them in Cataclysm.

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Yeah they should have focus on night elves first right?

Why not? That would be a change. As long as the campaign for it wasn't launched from da da da Stormwind. Cause remember, Stormwind is not my main city, and King Anduin is not my king.

So maybe they should replace humans with night elves. After alll when Varian died it would've been a perfect time for them to start taking the lead and taking charge of everything.

And with the Alliance and Horde having failed in the attack against the Legion on the Broken Shore, a unified front led by the Night Elves that fought the Legion in ancient times would've probably been more effective at fighting them back than the class order halls united would've realistically been (I mean how big were those class order halls?). Maybe the Blood Elves could've helped leading the charge from the Horde side.

[RobertMugabe]

they always focus on human and orcs first. See Garrisons, see Warfronts, see any number of things that are faction coded. Other races are distant seconds, if at all, and depend on the most current situation

Garrisons and Warfronts are always the same examples people mention when complaining about the humans/orcs focus, which is funny, because Garrisons are like 12 years old and with Warfronts (4 expansions back) we did get the Darkshore warfront soon after Arathi, so this one isn't even really true.

So while I generally do agree in a way with you that they do put too much focus on Humans/Orcs alone; I also think that this is also quite a bit overblown... I mean in the last 3 expansions we barely saw anything at all related to humans (aside from Anduin and Jaina as characters), let alone orcs.

But yeah regarding housing I think all of you are just overreacting either way. As a gnome fan, I also do not like that there is barely any stuff for other races, but I know and they have confirmed that they will massively expand this feature. Like they have to start somewhere with something. If they were to put the same effort for every race immediately as they did with humans/orcs/elfs then we wouldn't see housing for a long time.

[NekoOwlAzure]

Garrisons and Warfronts are always the same examples people mention when complaining about the humans/orcs focus, which is funny, because Garrisons are like 12 years old and with Warfronts (4 expansions back) we did get the Darkshore warfront soon after Arathi, so this one isn't even really true.

So while I generally do agree in a way with you that they do put too much focus on Humans/Orcs alone; I also think that this is also quite a bit overblown... I mean in the last 3 expansions we barely saw anything at all related to humans (aside from Anduin and Jaina as characters), let alone orcs.

But yeah regarding housing I think all of you are just overreacting either way. As a gnome fan, I also do not like that there is barely any stuff for other races, but I know and they have confirmed that they will massively expand this feature. Like they have to start somewhere with something. If they were to put the same effort for every race immediately as they did with humans/orcs/elfs then we wouldn't see housing for a long time.

We did see a lot of Stormwind though, like we have to go there for everything whenever we go back to the mainland, have to go through there to use the portal room for all the expansions, at the end of remix characters get teleported there chromie time is exclusively there trading post is there but not in other cities aside from the new expansion one etc. Everything is advertised that sends us there, the portal to housing is there, even housing is located so far only there, and for all races other than Human it should not be the go to place. And that is what's wrong with the game, aesthetically, however you look at it.

I guess people complain about garrisons cause they didn't like the human/orc focus back then either, so now it's an even bigger problem. Warfronts are based on an expansion that had a silly concept from the beginning, if they did everything they did but without burning down Teldrassil then honestly, it wouldn't be silly.

[RobertMugabe]

We did see a lot of Stormwind though, like we have to go there for everything whenever we go back to the mainland, have to go through there to use the portal room for all the expansions, at the end of remix characters get teleported there chromie time is exclusively there trading post is there but not in other cities aside from the new expansion one etc. Everything is advertised that sends us there, the portal to housing is there, even housing is located so far only there, and for all races other than Human it should not be the go to place. And that is what's wrong with the game, aesthetically, however you look at it.

I guess people complain about garrisons cause they didn't like the human/orc focus back then either, so now it's an even bigger problem. Warfronts are based on an expansion that had a silly concept from the beginning, if they did everything they did but without burning down Teldrassil then honestly, it wouldn't be silly.

Yeah that's of course true, though this is one of those things which they probably can't change anytime soon due to technical and gameplay reasons.
At least they should make Stormwind more diverse like they did with Orgrimmar where you have dedicated Troll and Tauren areas (even the Dwarven District has a human style).

[NekoOwlAzure]

Yeah that's of course true, though this is one of those things which they probably can't change anytime soon due to technical and gameplay reasons.
At least they should make Stormwind more diverse like they did with Orgrimmar where you have dedicated Troll and Tauren areas (even the Dwarven District has a human style).

They could just use other cities for stuff and start putting portals in them. Without using Stormwind for the same thing, and make portals to the other cities in expansions, instead of Stormwind. And launch expansions from different cities instead of Stormwind, that would be a nice change of pace, after all what about all the other races that aren't Humans? Why should they launch from Stormwind?

[Lochton]

Blood Elf mains can buy Silvermoon-themed items from one of the Decor Vendor NPCs for next to nothing. I think you can buy one of each item for less than 1000g.

Draenei on the other hand—you know, the Alliance equivalent of Blood Elves—don’t have any items themed for their race available from these vendors.

Instead, we get the privilege of A) either buying exorbitantly priced furniture from the AH (prices are currently ranging from 30k to 200k per item), or B) grinding Warlords of Draenor reputations and Garrison Resources. And that is just to be able to create a home that meets the bare minimum of matching our race’s aesthetic.

For me, this cements Housing as a complete failure. I’m a Draenei main, it’s more or less the only race I’ve cared about playing since 2007. And Blizzard expects me to go on a wild goose chase grinding decade-old reputations and outdated currencies just to make a home that feels like a home? No thanks.

Meanwhile, Blood Elf players can just log in. That’s all they have to do.

We will see as time goes, there are to come two more, after that, we'll see.

As for Auction prices, that is on players, and you could craft your own else, here, they ranged from 1000g to 150k gold a piece.

You don't need to rush it, you have time, and you can gather things as it goes, we're still in early access with houses too. There is time.

And if we then add to your title:
Dwarves/Dark Iron/Earthen were done dirty with housing.
Gnomes/Mechagnomes were done dirty with housing.

Pandaren were done dirty with housing.
Dracthyr were done dirty with housing.

Undead were done dirty with housing.
Tauren/Highmountain Tauren were done dirty with housing.
Trolls/Zandalari were done dirty with housing.
Goblin were done dirty with housing.
Vulpera were done dirty with housing.
Technically, Nightborne were done dirty with housing.

As for so, currently, the house ain't looking good for Blood Elves either, until Midnight..

[NekoOwlAzure]

If I was suddenly put in charge of WoW next week or something, I would have the next expansion launch from Ironforge just to start off this new era of the world actually being GOOD. Thinking about it that actually makes sense as well cause Ironforge is the closest Alliance held city aside from Gilneas and maybe Andorhol or somewhere in the Plaguelands to Silvermoon.

[WeAreNotSmilesTimes]

If I was suddenly put in charge of WoW next week or something, I would have the next expansion launch from Ironforge just to start off this new era of the world actually being GOOD. Thinking about it that actually makes sense as well cause Ironforge is the closest Alliance held city aside from Gilneas and maybe Andorhol or somewhere in the Plaguelands to Silvermoon.

While they are getting better at it I'd love more stuff like this too. WoW has a huge world to play with.

[NekoOwlAzure]

While they are getting better at it I'd love more stuff like this too. WoW has a huge world to play with.

Yeah true, in 2025 I would imagine they'd realistically have the technology to do stuff like that more quickly.