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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    Decorating the house is kinda annoying because you have to run all over the world for these items, and many people just don't have time for it or cba with it.
    Yeah, this is one of the biggest drawbacks of the feature. If they got rid of reputation requirements, legacy currencies, and consolidated all the available decor to the vendors in your neighborhood (available for gold or some other universal currency), we might have the foundation for a decent feature instead of this... half-baked time-waste simulator we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    I hate to say it but every house I've seen so far looks super samey. They really should have given us way more decor right off the bat. Every house I see, it's just the same small handful of assets copy-pasted all over.
    I dont play WoW anymore but the houses stuff looks cool, but I wish the houses would have more culturally themed buildings... Like I want one of those dwarf houses. Be it the ones from the Wild hammer or the Ironforge dwarfs.

    I used to play a dwarf, I wouldn't want him living in a human house. I am a dwarf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    I dont play WoW anymore but the houses stuff looks cool, but I wish the houses would have more culturally themed buildings... Like I want one of those dwarf houses. Be it the ones from the Wild hammer or the Ironforge dwarfs.

    I used to play a dwarf, I wouldn't want him living in a human house. I am a dwarf.
    Tell me about it. All I wanted was a draenei house for my draenei, but the choices are so limited that I might as well not bother. Which is what I plan on doing until the devs stop insulting my intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Tell me about it. All I wanted was a draenei house for my draenei, but the choices are so limited that I might as well not bother. Which is what I plan on doing until the devs stop insulting my intelligence.
    Really?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    Really?

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    I suggest you read this thread for the issues with decor acquisition and the disparity when it comes to acquiring draenei decor vs. night elf, human, blood elf, and orc themed decor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudibleEscalation View Post
    I did the quest. So I guess I got a house. And that's about as far as I'm going to get.
    The feature just isn't for me, I find doing old content and collecting stuff incredibly boring.
    I'd rather play Manor Lords or even goddamn Cities Skylines 2 if I ever need to scratch the building/decorating itch.
    That's basically where I am. Kinda shows how MMOs have evolved though, this is consummate classic MMO content - a big timesink in the world with no real gameplay or "skill" - that I probably would have liked 20 years ago but now have 0 interest in. I'd rather just play something else
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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Yeah, this is one of the biggest drawbacks of the feature. If they got rid of reputation requirements, legacy currencies, and consolidated all the available decor to the vendors in your neighborhood (available for gold or some other universal currency), we might have the foundation for a decent feature....
    This would have been incredibly boring. I’ll never understand why people don’t like earning things in the games they play, and instead just want everything handed to them.

    The whole appeal of this kind of system is that you can do things others can’t because you were willing to put in effort they weren’t. That’s wildly more rewarding than having everything just given to you. I will never understand this mentality where you just get things… because.

    It just feels so effort-averse. I don’t get why you’d play a game if you don’t want to actually engage with its systems. Sure, decorating is the “fun bit,” but isn’t doing something unique (something not everyone can pull off) part of the appeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    I suggest you read this thread for the issues with decor acquisition and the disparity when it comes to acquiring draenei decor vs. night elf, human, blood elf, and orc themed decor.
    Blood elves, humans, and orcs got the bulk of the default furniture because

    1. humans and orcs were probably the first props designed for the system.
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    2. Midnight is an elven expansion, it's likely that a lot of assets were made for silvermoon and were just added to housing.

    It's not favouritism it's just a consequence of how and when the system was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    I hate to say it but every house I've seen so far looks super samey. They really should have given us way more decor right off the bat. Every house I see, it's just the same small handful of assets copy-pasted all over.
    The exteriors being limited to human, orc and eventually elves plays a huge role in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    I dont play WoW anymore but the houses stuff looks cool, but I wish the houses would have more culturally themed buildings... Like I want one of those dwarf houses. Be it the ones from the Wild hammer or the Ironforge dwarfs.

    I used to play a dwarf, I wouldn't want him living in a human house. I am a dwarf.
    I feel the same way about my gnomes, forsaken, Draenei etc. It's bullshit that they didn't do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceMistakes View Post



    I feel the same way about my gnomes, forsaken, Draenei etc. It's bullshit that they didn't do better.
    I can only guess its a huge under taking for devs and hopefully (HOPEFULLY) Its something they'll add to the game as time goes on. I would love to see more dwarf homes like the ones in Twilight Highlands or Dun Morogh...

    Also why no snow Biome? We got swamps, beaches, mountains forests, autumn summer, but no snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    Also why no snow Biome?
    Feel like the obvious thing here would the The Last Titan including "You can own a third house in a cross-faction (all building types allowed) neighborhood set in Northrend" as a drawing point. Grizzly Hills, Dragonblight, and Howling Fjord seems like a workable tri-biome spread (though I'd really want Sholazar personally).
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    Quote Originally Posted by solequeen View Post
    this would have been incredibly boring. I’ll never understand why people don’t like earning things in the games they play, and instead just want everything handed to them.

    The whole appeal of this kind of system is that you can do things others can’t because you were willing to put in effort they weren’t. That’s wildly more rewarding than having everything just given to you. I will never understand this mentality where you just get things… because.

    It just feels so effort-averse. I don’t get why you’d play a game if you don’t want to actually engage with its systems. Sure, decorating is the “fun bit,” but isn’t doing something unique (something not everyone can pull off) part of the appeal?

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    I disagree. Even looking at these 2 Cave homes and some people making rock waterfalls using fountains and rocks to clip and cover the rest, to me that's what this feature is about. They just went to the vendor and bought 30 of whatever rocks but it's still very cool and clever and makes for fun customization. These customizations wouldn't be more cool if they had to run say RFC 30 times for a certain rock that looks good. All that does, in my opinion, is slow down creativity.

    I don't think there are really any rewards that are "difficult" to pull off. It's just, did you have farm rep for this back in the day, do you want to run this dungeon to get as many of the decoration as you want? They are just tedious and feel as though all they do is slow down your own creative process. Even in beta where you have everything unlocked, people are spending tons of time just building and customizing. That, to me, is the core of the feature. Sure we can have some unlocks for things tied to achieves where it makes sense, but it should be primarily about just letting you customize your home.

    WoW has plenty of systems where your gear and gamer skill matter. I'm not saying, "Hey everyone should get Mythic loot for free!" WoW has the endgame systems that reward skill already. This game mode, again to me, should be about you and your creativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
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    Why do people keep putting plants in doors where there is no sunlight? Makes no sense. I mean it also makes no sense having a tiny house on the outside and the Buckingham palace on the inside, but that's just too much suspension of disbelief for me. Which is why I made a cave, because at least I can pretend there is a massive underground hollowed space where a whole mansion can be built, and the door outside just leads into a tunnel that you don't see because that's basically the loading screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    Why do people keep putting plants in doors where there is no sunlight? Makes no sense. I mean it also makes no sense having a tiny house on the outside and the Buckingham palace on the inside, but that's just too much suspension of disbelief for me. Which is why I made a cave, because at least I can pretend there is a massive underground hollowed space where a whole mansion can be built, and the door outside just leads into a tunnel that you don't see because that's basically the loading screen.
    Why would you need light when the plants are being fed by magic? Like is your immersion also broken by druids casting any spell indoors or udnerground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleQueen View Post
    I'd love to see your houses, it turns out it's actually super hard to find someone that will 1. Let you in their house and then 2. Actually knows how to decorate a house lol. I'm not trying to be mean. But damn guys some of you did not get the decorating gene...

    So for those that do lets see your creations!

    Here's mine so that I'm not holdin out, Almost every room except those that are still too WIP

    My Home!
    Who died and made you dictator of who can decorate or not? Also when you start with "I'm not trying to be mean" you absolutely are being mean. That was a complete unneeded statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Yeah, this is one of the biggest drawbacks of the feature. If they got rid of reputation requirements, legacy currencies, and consolidated all the available decor to the vendors in your neighborhood (available for gold or some other universal currency), we might have the foundation for a decent feature instead of this... half-baked time-waste simulator we have now.
    Basically gimme everything for zero effort. I love that they are using old currencies because players are sitting on a ton that they aren't using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    I dont play WoW anymore but the houses stuff looks cool, but I wish the houses would have more culturally themed buildings... Like I want one of those dwarf houses. Be it the ones from the Wild hammer or the Ironforge dwarfs.

    I used to play a dwarf, I wouldn't want him living in a human house. I am a dwarf.
    Those things are going to take time to put in. THey are eventually going to get all races in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    Basically gimme everything for zero effort. I love that they are using old currencies because players are sitting on a ton that they aren't using.
    yeah pretty much what i was going to say too. earning stuff is nice and being rewarded for having done stuff in the past is great. would be lame if you just logged in and had everything immediately

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleQueen View Post
    I'd love to see your houses, it turns out it's actually super hard to find someone that will 1. Let you in their house and then 2. Actually knows how to decorate a house lol. I'm not trying to be mean. But damn guys some of you did not get the decorating gene...

    So for those that do lets see your creations!

    Here's mine so that I'm not holdin out, Almost every room except those that are still too WIP

    My Home!
    It's true. Both my guild neighborhoods are pretty trash. Outside of a handful in each, no one has any design sense or they just have a house and a fountain. Kinda sucks. And sure I get it's not for everyone.

    System is fun, even if it's a bit lacking currently.

    I posted where I'm at so far in the other thread. I don't feel like re-uploading it to another.

    I'm waiting for more QOL before I keep going with it though.
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    Gilneas/Drustvar/Inquisitor themed spooky plot overlooking a dock and the shipwrecks. Still a work in progress, and the interior is a very basic single room for the time being.












    This is just a corner of my Horde plot, but it's already at 200/200 decor limit. The vision is an excavation on the plot, with a Reliquary examiner's estate and garden being the main focus...













    Interior is also very much WIP and I'm kind of holding out waiting for them to implement basements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flantini View Post
    I disagree. Even looking at these 2 Cave homes and some people making rock waterfalls using fountains and rocks to clip and cover the rest, to me that's what this feature is about. They just went to the vendor and bought 30 of whatever rocks but it's still very cool and clever and makes for fun customization. These customizations wouldn't be more cool if they had to run say RFC 30 times for a certain rock that looks good. All that does, in my opinion, is slow down creativity.

    I don't think there are really any rewards that are "difficult" to pull off. It's just, did you have farm rep for this back in the day, do you want to run this dungeon to get as many of the decoration as you want? They are just tedious and feel as though all they do is slow down your own creative process. Even in beta where you have everything unlocked, people are spending tons of time just building and customizing. That, to me, is the core of the feature. Sure we can have some unlocks for things tied to achieves where it makes sense, but it should be primarily about just letting you customize your home.

    WoW has plenty of systems where your gear and gamer skill matter. I'm not saying, "Hey everyone should get Mythic loot for free!" WoW has the endgame systems that reward skill already. This game mode, again to me, should be about you and your creativity.
    So what you think is that if something doesn't take skill to complete the effort is not valid? So everything that requires 0 skill should just be given to us?

    So everyone should be max level as soon as the expansion launches?
    Reps should not exist because they don't take skill to get just time and a little effort?
    We should remove normal and heroic dungeons from the game because those are not difficult?

    Seriously I know I'm being a bit hyperbolic but that's the logic you're setting up.

    And housing might not be direct power progression and may be a creative system. But in order to add things to my house that I wanted I needed to progress other systems like reps or old professions. This allowed me to make progress on my end goal for my house. Without those side projects I would have completed my house on day 1 and then it would have been left to rot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    I'm waiting for more QOL before I keep going with it though.
    Thankfully addons are already starting with the QoL stuff, nothing crazy yet but things like duplicating items without have to search them again is really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    Who died and made you dictator of who can decorate or not? Also when you start with "I'm not trying to be mean" you absolutely are being mean. That was a complete unneeded statement.
    Yes it was mean, but it wasn't me being malicious just truthful. Seriously most of the public neighbourhoods are like driving through the Detroit suburbs lol

    Very very few people have utilised negative space in their homes and when we have such massive rooms (Then you have the tiny room, which is too big and too small at the same time because it's too big to be very workable without negative space and too small to create good effective shapes with the props we have.) it's basically mandatory for rooms to look good unless you're doing something like a dining room where you want the openness. it often leads to people creating what feels like should be 4 rooms, in a single room all facing walls. It's very cold and shut off from flow. Certainly not saying people can't do that. Just saying I want to see something a bit more creative or cute lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleQueen View Post
    So what you think is that if something doesn't take skill to complete the effort is not valid? So everything that requires 0 skill should just be given to us?

    So everyone should be max level as soon as the expansion launches?
    Reps should not exist because they don't take skill to get just time and a little effort?
    We should remove normal and heroic dungeons from the game because those are not difficult?

    Seriously I know I'm being a bit hyperbolic but that's the logic you're setting up.

    And housing might not be direct power progression and may be a creative system. But in order to add things to my house that I wanted I needed to progress other systems like reps or old professions. This allowed me to make progress on my end goal for my house. Without those side projects I would have completed my house on day 1 and then it would have been left to rot.

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    Thankfully addons are already starting with the QoL stuff, nothing crazy yet but things like duplicating items without have to search them again is really nice.
    VERY hyperbolic. I even say we have lots of systems like that and don't want those changed..

    So bye your logic I should have to go to the main city to eat and drink because, we need tedious systems to make sense. We should need to chop down lumber to get wood for all basic wooden features, including rooms. I'm supposed to just believe I magically learn how to make a bigger room??? Where's the drafting classes??

    See? See how that gets us no where. You don't want to discuss with me now you just want to resort to the cool "Gotcha heh heh heh" text on screen.

    Houses are meant to be designed, and then... "lived" in. It should be about creating. Again, one time things that you unlock with an achieve, fine where it makes sense. Where it doesn't make sense to me is in common items like basic faction themed rewards and things like mugs. Want the fountain from some raid? Sure do the raid.

    You also haven't challenged my point of how would making the rocks a drop from the end of a instance any cooler? Because I ran deadmines 30 times to get the rocks I need? That just gatekeeps for the sake of gatekeeping. I mean if you want to look up a build and then spend hours/days farming a rep/instance so you can sit there and be like, "yeah you may want this cave but I did this super long rep grind so you can't! hahaha" Then..cool I guess?

    Feel like I have to add this because internet people... No I don't think any other systems of WoW should be changed. I don't want instant max lvl. I don't want instant teleport anywhere. No to instant millions of gold. No to free mythics. No to free ratings. No to instant max rep. I'm sure I'm missing something that someone will look cool and be like "Hah so you want this! since you didn't say!!!" I am only talking in regards to WoW housing system. This is my opinion that you are free to disagree with. I think this system should be about creativity and always making tweaks to your house to build a place you want. With some cool items unlocked when it makes sense, but with most being available so you spend your time building and being creative. WoW has a lot of other rewards from these old reps/dungeons/etc and NO I don't want those given for free either. I find it cumbersome to want a look and it's like "look up where a standard bench comes from.. oh its a 60 quest chain in some old zone... ugh no thanks."

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