The phasing of K'aresh is completely dysfunctional and unecessary.

[Nederbelg]

well guess what, the higher ups at Blizzard (who probably have a lot more knowledge than you do) thought he was the right fit for the job. Are you actually suggesting that they are wrong too? That everyone is wrong except for you?

it is epigramx, the user that is living in their own self-contained wow-knowledge-bubble. They are the only one in the right. Argueing is useless with them.

[Oneirophobia]

Yeah, but you use it to teleport around the map with ease. The rest of the crap is just flavour, it's about moving around the zone at a break-neck pace and being able to finish all your damn world quests and rare farming you want to get done in mere minutes. It's like a better version of the draconic tele-pad doohickies from dragonflight.

Did they hype it up a lot for no reason? Yeah. Should they have maybe spent more time/focus on the eco domes instead of making the tele-pads more flavourful? Probably.

[deenman]

saying k'aresh is a worse version of the maw gotta be one of the most revisionist history statements ever written

ikr this is insane, karesh is much easier to navigate and get around....you can acualy fly in the non phase version and it doesnt look like ass as maw did...and it doesnt harass you with shit like maw did....insane take

[Ielenia]

Does it matter?

"Ion was put immediately in charge of everything when he joined the WoW team!"

"Actually, he started as a raid encounter designed before becoming game director."

"He was only in that position for a short while!"

"Actually he was raid encounter designer for almost eight years."

"What does it matter how long he's been there before becoming game director?!"

Don't you get tired constantly carrying those goalposts around the field non-stop?

He had no business taking over the entire game

Mr "professional programmer", do you think people climb in the ranks within a company just by wanting a different position? That Ion one day woke up and thought to himself "I'm going to be Game Director from now on!" and presto, he was now game director for WoW?

even for casuals who are the core of WoW.

He seems to be doing a great job for casuals, considering he because Game Director in 2016 and from then on the game gained more and more casual content, expansion after expansion.

You should be praising him.

[Kyanion]

"Ion was put immediately in charge of everything when he joined the WoW team!"

"Actually, he started as a raid encounter designed before becoming game director."

"He was only in that position for a short while!"

"Actually he was raid encounter designer for almost eight years."

"What does it matter how long he's been there before becoming game director?!"

Don't you get tired constantly carrying those goalposts around the field non-stop?

Those goal posts got moved so far they are now residing in a new state on a field meant for an entirely different sport.

[epigramx]

This is moving the goalposts though. He did not "take over the game right away." Putting someone familiar with raiding in charge of raid design was actually a very good idea!

goalposts

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You moved the goalposts. The topic was if Ion as a hard core raider is good for leading the entire game, not the details of his job history.

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the higher ups at Blizzard (who probably have a lot more knowledge than you do) thought he was the right fit for the job.

I don't believe in kings or dictatorships, so that's not even registering to me.

Yes Blizzard may be wrong.

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doing a great job for casuals, considering he because Game Director in 2016 and from then on the game gained more and more casual content, expansion after expansion.

If by "casual content", you mean that you have to grind in mundane easy to complete tasks in order to be allowed in hard core guilds, yes he did retain the core problem of wow.

[Lolites]

That everyone is wrong except for you?

ofc thats what he is suggesting, thats what he always suggests, that everyone and everything including reality are wrong,
like claiming Ion is "raid focused" when almost all non-raid content was added to wow under him...

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Those goal posts got moved so far they are now residing in a new state on a field meant for an entirely different sport.

in other words busines as usual with epigramx...
are we still waiting for his proof token is illegal?

[Ghostile]

Does it matter? He was working on hardcore raiding both in game and in his guild and elitist forum.

He had no business taking over the entire game even for casuals who are the core of WoW.

Imagine if someone looked at your perfectly normal hobby from years ago and it's why you aren't fit to your new job, lmao.
And I do suppose the world looks different to a person that hasn't played in years, but the casuals have actually gotten more content than ever under Ion.

[MrLachyG]

ofc thats what he is suggesting, thats what he always suggests, that everyone and everything including reality are wrong,
like claiming Ion is "raid focused" when almost all non-raid content was added to wow under him...

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in other words busines as usual with epigramx...
are we still waiting for his proof token is illegal?

Something something strawman… something something complete

[Ielenia]

You moved the goalposts. The topic was if Ion as a hard core raider is good for leading the entire game, not the details of his job history.

The details of his job history pertain to his skills in working at the game and are the crux of your original complaint against Ion. After all, this is what you originally wrote:

Ion was a hard core raider who immediately got put into leading everything in wow. He never understood casual guilds and casual players in general and part of that was that raids don't have flying (unless it's a special design of them).

That said, if the details of his job history truly didn't matter, why did you spent three posts in a row moving the goalposts to try to keep your argument against him afloat?

I don't believe in kings or dictatorships, so that's not even registering to me.

This has literally zero to do with "kings and dictatorships". It's about knowledge, of which you have repeatedly demonstrated to have zero of it regarding this subject, especially in posts where you bring up alleged credentials in an attempt to bring some form of credibility to your claims.

Yes Blizzard may be wrong.

The chances of them being wrong are rather infinitesimally low when compared to you being wrong here. You are one person, looking only at yourself and those that agree with you, while Blizzard is a huge company, looking at basically the entire groups of players they have.

If by "casual content", you mean that you have to grind in mundane easy to complete tasks in order to be allowed in hard core guilds,

Literally none of that exists or ever happened, mr "I-once-was-part-of-a-top-1%-guild". Not a single hardcore guild (hardcore or not) required or required you to grind hours in the Superbloom back in Dragonflight to participate in raiding. Not a single hardcore guild (hardcore or not) requires or required you to grind the Theater event in TWW over and over, or the Scrap Digging events in Undermine.

[Deianeira]

Well you guys say they feel barebones and barren(Argus and Karesh) You guys know that those worlds was BLOWN the fuck up? You think a world such as those would be "Alive"?

Well. I will have to agree with you on the Emerald Dream zone for sure. It was the first final zone of an expac that I actually liked being in. Even going back to Legion, I felt kind of depressed playing around Argus. What about BFA? Didn't we just run around the desert or the mogu place from MoP? Then do horrific visions? Idk I suppose the desert wasn't too bad but felt lifeless as you just ran around chasing objectives. Zereth Mortis in SL felt very disjointed, much like the rest of the expansion did to me which is why I took a break for most of it. Yeah Emerald Dream felt nice. I didn't mind doing the activities. It felt ALIVE, which is kind of what it was going for.

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I Feel like if there was an event like we had in Emerald Dream where players could interact with each other that would have helped. Making it so players have to shift into another phase and then become ethereal and such, on top of not being able to fly while on literal islands seperated by the void makes it so you want to get out of that phase as soon as possible, not hang out there. So yeah, making it so you can fly while in the other phase would help, though the problem of place feeling like a depressing alien far-scape still remains.

Now that I think about it, there are little devourer invasion things on the Eco domes but it's not enough to me. I feel like If each of the islands were connected by these giant tubes like those pink housing decor ones, something similar then you could fly through those to each dome. Meanwhile inside each of those tubes would be filled with random flora and fauna on the grounds and such, maybe overflow of collected life that couldn't fit in the domes proper. I mean we are talking about collections of life from not only K'aresh but from who knows where.

Inside those tubes you could have races, other random events of escaped specimens, etc.

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Who is this epigramx ? I have been away from the forums for quite a while. He a new one or did he just switch name?

ofc thats what he is suggesting, thats what he always suggests, that everyone and everything including reality are wrong,
like claiming Ion is "raid focused" when almost all non-raid content was added to wow under him...

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in other words busines as usual with epigramx...
are we still waiting for his proof token is illegal?

[LordVargK]

ikr this is insane, karesh is much easier to navigate and get around....you can acualy fly in the non phase version and it doesnt look like ass as maw did...and it doesnt harass you with shit like maw did....insane take

Karesh definitly looks like ass. One of the most visually boring zones.

Also, why can we breathe on a broken planet?

[Lolites]

Who is this epigramx ?

oh you dont know how lucky you are... he is not new, he is swinging between being banned and making bullshit threads and wild claims leaning on nothing but his ego

[Nederbelg]

Karesh definitly looks like ass. One of the most visually boring zones.

Also, why can we breathe on a broken planet?

How can we walk on the outside of space ships?
How can we stay underwater without breathing after drinking a poition?
How can a mount that is just bones stay in the air?

It is a fantasy game, so weird shit happens all the time.

[deenman]

Karesh definitly looks like ass. One of the most visually boring zones.

Also, why can we breathe on a broken planet?

honestly i think it looks better than 90% of argus, the white and purple, those reflective surfaces in some areas, the bioms like in outland, its pretty cool looking, compared to argus ugly black and green sludge

also like someone else told you, dont try to use logic in a video game lol, why are the interiors of raids 100 times larger than the exterior?

[Zodiark]

Well you guys say they feel barebones and barren(Argus and Karesh) You guys know that those worlds was BLOWN the fuck up? You think a world such as those would be "Alive"?



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Who is this epigramx ? I have been away from the forums for quite a while. He a new one or did he just switch name?

Oh just someone posting bait threads and comments and such. Nothing too crazy. Idk if they are just someone who switched tags or what but that's what I've gathered.

[LordVargK]

honestly i think it looks better than 90% of argus, the white and purple, those reflective surfaces in some areas, the bioms like in outland, its pretty cool looking, compared to argus ugly black and green sludge

also like someone else told you, dont try to use logic in a video game lol, why are the interiors of raids 100 times larger than the exterior?

Argus had 3 different zones, one of which was visually very distinct. Certainly not all black and green.

Are the interiors of raids bigger than the exteriors? In most cases there are no exteriors to begin with, just a Portal and maybe a fassade.
But in the cases where we see the full exterior (Like Zulgurub or Anqijrash or more recently battle of Dazaralor) the proportions mostly fit.

[MrLachyG]

oh you dont know how lucky you are... he is not new, he is swinging between being banned and making bullshit threads and wild claims leaning on nothing but his ego

man imagine when they find threads by another user who thinks that wow is dead, not once but 64 times over