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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    I know I may way out of date on this, but why should transmog have a cost at all? It should be a fun feature for players to switch freely between their chosen outfits. I know that Blizzard likes its gold sinks, and I don't know the cost of changing transmogs so this might not be a big deal (if it only costs 1g or something trivial). But if the cost is supposed to be prohibitive to changing outfits on a whim, then that sucks.
    Blizzard connected gold to real-life currency, and sells gold to players. As a corporation, Blizzard has a fiduciary responsibility to increase profits quarter-over-quarter. As such, it is up to their marketing team to figure out how to come up with new ways to make "line on graph go up". Incentivizing the purchase of gold tokens is one such method.

    I would expect they will have to introduce similar changes to the barber shop eventually. Not trying to shit on Blizz, it's just the nature of things - It is mandatory that new ways to monetize and infinitely increase profits every quarter are thought up and deployed. Insert "we live in a society" meme here, but for real - nobody has a choice, we have all collectively decided this is the way things must be and as shareholders we will shutter the entire gaming industry before we ever even dream of letting a company "just have a good quarter" - if it ain't increasing, it's decreasing, Ricky Bobby! It isn't that "companies exist just to make money," it's that all of our entire industries exist just to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    One free transmog. lol. How about refunding my 30k gold already spent on putting the outfits they were already wearing back on my chars.
    Did you fully read the article or are just looking for something to complain? The article clearly states you're getting one free transmog per player character:

    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    With the 12.0.1 update before the launch of Midnight, all player-characters will be granted one free Transmog. This will be automatically applied to the next outfit created for each character. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by first-time Transmog costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneirophobia View Post
    Blizzard connected gold to real-life currency, and sells gold to players. As a corporation, Blizzard has a fiduciary responsibility to increase profits quarter-over-quarter. As such, it is up to their marketing team to figure out how to come up with new ways to make "line on graph go up". Incentivizing the purchase of gold tokens is one such method.
    I know people love to complain about the WoW token, but complaining about a one-time cost of a meager 1000-ish gold as it being "corpo greed" is not the slam dunk you think it is.
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    While I fully agree that the current transmogged outfit should have been included anyway, and I sincerly doubt why there needs to be gold costs tied to buying outfit slots as well as actually filling them, I think the outrage in the official forums over that current ~1000G issue is hilarious.
    This isn't classic, just tumble out of Dornogal and collect 10 goats or whatever gold world quest is up and you're "even".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    That's a very, very dishonest thing to say.

    Literally no one is buying or has ever bought a WoW token "just so they could pay the transmg costs". That's like saying you have to sell your car so you can buy a can of Pringles.
    I farm zero gold Literally zero
    And i only PvP

    All my gold is token gold :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Thanks View Post
    I farm zero gold Literally zero
    And i only PvP

    All my gold is token gold :S
    Thanks for this post. Seriously. People need to learn that their world is in fact not their oyster and people play the game (and accumulate gold) in very different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    I used to have 12 outfits, every so often I'd pay 200g or so to adjust one.

    Now - I'm likely limited to 3 or 4 outfits - and paying god knows how much to set them all up.
    Slot costs are Free, Free, 200, 350, 500 (IIRC) and every set saved so far, per char was between 1700 and 2200. Yeah, if you only change one item ever so often...that might suck. But as far as I can see it on a micro level.

    Especially since you can pick and chose your WQs and easily bag 800 gold on some of them. Per character...repeatable.

    Obviously they could make transmog costs less or zero and also reduce the amount of gold earned on WQs - which just would result in the same thing....complaints no matter what.

    And I am serious here - people would even complain about zero gold transmogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Thanks View Post
    I farm zero gold Literally zero
    And i only PvP

    All my gold is token gold :S
    Really? You don't do any quests at all? Not even the main story quests? You level characters up exclusively through PvP and nothing else? You don't even do PvP quests?

    I find that really hard to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FatGandalf View Post
    One free transmog. lol. How about refunding my 30k gold already spent on putting the outfits they were already wearing back on my chars.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    all player-characters will be granted one free Transmog
    Novel concept but have you tried reading the post before making a complaint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I know people love to complain about the WoW token, but complaining about a one-time cost of a meager 1000-ish gold as it being "corpo greed" is not the slam dunk you think it is.
    We were talking about the transmog system having a fee at all, not this specific fee - though the thread is about that specific fee I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    all player-characters will be granted one free Transmog
    Novel concept but have you tried reading the post before making a complaint?
    It stands to reason one might be frustrated if you've already spent 30k doing the transmogging when you unknowingly could have waited and done it for free. Now that this seemingly mass transmogging is done, is it a fair assumption that they're going to go and re-transmog all 30k worth? Not really, their want for a refund makes sense. Having said that, I don't think these "free transmog charges" are going to expire so eventually they'll get used and "make back" that spent 30k.

    If they do expire 'em on us, I will gladly revisit the torches and pitchforks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I know people love to complain about the WoW token, but complaining about a one-time cost of a meager 1000-ish gold as it being "corpo greed" is not the slam dunk you think it is.
    If you've played the same character over all the years you can afford this cost easily. But if you love playing all kinds of alts it's a huge money sink, it basically removes a feature and puts it behind a pay wall.

    Things you used to be able to do for low costs or even free now costs a shitload. It's not a good system in the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    yeah lets make gold even more worthless outside of player interactions, so if i dont buy boosts and consumes, what am i suposed to do with gold?
    You feel it's fair to rob other people of fun just because you don't know what to spend your money on? Don't make your luxury problem someone elses misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daronokk View Post
    If you've played the same character over all the years you can afford this cost easily. But if you love playing all kinds of alts it's a huge money sink, it basically removes a feature and puts it behind a pay wall.
    It does not. You can get 1000 gold really easily just by selling vendor trash and looting gold from mobs you kill. Like, I'd say in about 20-30 minutes you can get a 1000 gold, if not more.

    Things you used to be able to do for low costs or even free now costs a shitload. It's not a good system in the slightest.
    Such as? What are stuff you could do "for free" before, but now you have to pay a fee in gold?

    On the other hand, I can tell you of at least two things you used to pay a fee in gold for before, but now you can do for free: changing specs, and respec'ing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneirophobia View Post
    We were talking about the transmog system having a fee at all, not this specific fee - though the thread is about that specific fee I suppose.
    It's a one-time fee, and a meager one at that. Certainly better than having to pay again and again and again, every time you got a non-jewelry piece of gear. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Really? You don't do any quests at all? Not even the main story quests? You level characters up exclusively through PvP and nothing else? You don't even do PvP quests?

    I find that really hard to believe.
    How much gold does a PvP quest even give? 50g? I have no idea

    Anyway i have 4 characters i like to jump between and only PvP with them.
    My costs are:

    -Enchants every season
    -Repairs
    -Transmogs
    -embelished armor pieces
    -gems

    Is really expensive...enchants alone are a mess. Gold goes down on its own and i buy a token everytime it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott1979 View Post
    Bro why do you care about gold it's not like it's real money and it's so easy to make gold these days i don't care about spending gold to do that just curious why everyone else is like omg i can't part with 600g come on as if the game isn't easy enough now everyone wants free transmogs you people helped to ruin this game with all the whining bout dumb stuff probably part of the reason why everything is account wide and crap stupid stuff

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    why should it be free you don't know how to make gold in game it's super easy let me help you go do dailies or go farm some profession mats you'll be fine pull up your big boy pants and play the game stop asking for hand outs
    If I told you how much gold I have you wouldn't believe me and I still think transmog should be free. But if Blizzard actually made it free you'd be the first one to defend the decision.

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    Actually I bought 2 tokens for 12 outfit slots. I have 11 alts, now with 12 tmogs each.

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    I have been using BetterWardrobe addon. Every tmog after the 15th is now lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeeh View Post
    Play the game, you'll be fine.
    It's the 30k upfront cost to unlock the slots
    + the 30k to create the outfits.

    60k upfront just to convert to the new system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Passing through View Post
    And I am serious here - people would even complain about zero gold transmogs.
    Unsure why commenting on something that is happening is called complaining.

    I'm just saying that it's a 60k gold upfront cost to convert my character to the new system.

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    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneirophobia View Post
    Blizzard connected gold to real-life currency, and sells gold to players. As a corporation, Blizzard has a fiduciary responsibility to increase profits quarter-over-quarter. As such, it is up to their marketing team to figure out how to come up with new ways to make "line on graph go up". Incentivizing the purchase of gold tokens is one such method.
    tbf if someone is driven to buy a token instead of doing a handful of world quests to cover for transmog, I think they deserve to lose that money, lol.
    There's up to 15k gold up for grabs per week per character in WQs.
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    But those WQ offer nothing and take time, meanwhile $20 gets you 300k. 15k is like $1 USD for how many boring quests? Doesn't seem worth it unless you really, really love world quests for some reason.

    It's unfortunate but this applies to a lot of things in the game now. Outside of the first couple weeks, gathering is not worth the time. Professions probably also aren't worth the time unless you are someone who is going to spend the time learning/researching how to monetize them, and even then it's peanuts unless you live in a third world country.
    A better way to think about Casual v Hardcore: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...asual-Hardcore

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    i def wouldn't because i don't care it's just part of the game it's like i can use the gold for anything else i don't mind spending my gold because it's there to spend

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    i´m aware it´s pr player char. But when you just spent 2k+ pr char to put back the outfits they were wearing before the update it´s not really worth anything

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    It's the 30k upfront cost to unlock the slots
    + the 30k to create the outfits.

    60k upfront just to convert to the new system.
    Wait a second...if you create outfits for 30k ...and as I see it now, you can save 13-15 outfits that way - are we talking 1 character and does the cost of the slots go up so very much after slot 5?

    Personally I don't have more than 5 sets on any given character and the first few slots were like free...free...250, 350, 500 - so genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Passing through View Post
    Wait a second...if you create outfits for 30k ...and as I see it now, you can save 13-15 outfits that way - are we talking 1 character and does the cost of the slots go up so very much after slot 5?

    Personally I don't have more than 5 sets on any given character and the first few slots were like free...free...250, 350, 500 - so genuinely curious.
    Yes it does, 12 slots was 30k all up (approximately)... not read the latest hotfix though.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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