Another Female spotlight?

[Pyrophax]

Most videos i have seen online about "lack of testosterone" in wow are from guywithmanboobs/fat/balding/asmongold type of guys are certainly are not the peak masculinity aesthetic they are looking for.

When you have nothing to say - accuse for appearance. That doesn't make you look any smarter or opponent worse you know? And centanly doesn't proof you point.

[Velshin]

Honestly don't know why some parts of the wow fanbase are so obsessed with *checksnotes* "strong male testastrone" characters. We had over 2 decades of them but a few female characters existing is somehow the end of world.

Few female exist? We never had a strong male characters since BfA man.

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It was in WoD and it died with Ga'nar and Maraad there.

I agree and Saurfang death for me was the last nail in the coffin there.

[Pyrophax]

Honestly don't know why some parts of the wow fanbase are so obsessed with *checksnotes* "strong male testastrone" characters. We had over 2 decades of them but a few female characters existing is somehow the end of world.

Imagine you go for a superhero movie, like Iron Man 1 or First Avenger. And after half of film done - they switch to Twilight or mexican soap opera. Won't this cause you some frustration?

Old fans love that "strong male testastrone" characters. People love strong female characters. But people don't like girlbosses.
And if we come to some equality - that strong female characters should be like 50/50 with strong male characters, yes? Same with weak or dependent characters.
But for now - for each strong Jaina we have weak Thrall. For each brilliant Talanji we have stupid Rasta-king. And for each badass Baelgrim they kill - we have kind Lufsela to keep.

[Kathranis]

Whiny manbabies crying about masculinity will never not be funny.

[meroes]

"[Zul'jan] "I'm here to help." -[Zul'jarra] "I don't need your help." -[Zul'jan] "You might." [Zul'jarra] "You could have been attacked by gnarldin or elves!"

[Zul'jan] "So could you." "Look, I know you have it in your head to do everything on your own."

"You have since we were children." Zul'jarra scowled, hoping that if he couldn't see her expression clearly, he could feel it.

[Zul'jarra] "You're still a child." [Zul'jan] "Yet you're the one throwing a tantrum." He dodged another swing of her spear.

[Zul'jan] "Let me start over. I understand why you're doing this." He paused, considered, then confessed…

[Zul'jan] "Actually, I don't, but we promised to face this world and its challenges together."

The whole thing is basically this: girl boss getting into trouble, mom or brother standing up for her, her lashing out but regretting it, and they all clapped.


(I couldn't listen to it so I read the transcript, too heavy character accent and too slow). Also don't forget "colonizers"...

Has that "permanently stuck in teenage years angst" from a female perspective and way too much dialogue.

[Kathranis]

Imagine you go for a superhero movie, like Iron Man 1 or First Avenger. And after half of film done - they switch to Twilight or mexican soap opera. Won't this cause you some frustration?

The irony of using tentpole blockbuster movies that feature romance b-plots so they can increase audience appeal to include more women.

[Throwawayx]

Honestly, if this direction genuinely bothers you, the most productive course of action is to unsubscribe. When you do, use the little feedback box to clearly and calmly explain why. Be as specific and articulate as you can about what isn't working for you. That kind of feedback is far more likely to be heard than arguing in a thread. Talk with your money, that's what gets to every corporation.

It's difficult to have a rational discussion about topics like this. The conversation is so polarized that people often assume bad faith and won't engage earnestly. What's frustrating is how quickly some who present themselves as champions of representation and inclusivity jump to ridicule or label anyone who raises concerns about male representation and masculinity because those concerns apparently don't align with their preferred vision of representation.

If anyone is going to take representation seriously, it should be a principle applied consistently. Dismissing or ridiculing certain perspectives outright while demanding openness for others only makes you look like a hypocrite.

[Pyrophax]

The irony of using tentpole blockbuster movies that feature romance b-plots so they can increase audience appeal to include more women.

Thats why I point to first movies, not last. Disney/Marvel do that too with their universe. IronHeart, Panther, Bow-girl, She-Hulk - just a few.

[D45]

Strong independent meme female characters talking about their emotions and crying all the time are so boring you could tell after first ten minutes how this story is going to end.

[meroes]

The irony of using tentpole blockbuster movies that feature romance b-plots so they can increase audience appeal to include more women.

Nothing in Marvel feels this obvious. This is so clearly for YA female media whereas even Iron Man 1 was general audience stuff.

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Strong independent meme female characters talking about their emotions and crying all the time are so boring you could tell after first ten minutes how this story is going to end.

"By nightfall, Zul'jarra had somehow bathed and dressed"

[Kithelle]

Young men getting triggered because a woman appears in one video never ceases to amuse me.

Seriously, we got a video of two male elves being way too weird about each other and other video of the teenager 40yo old half elf being friends with everyone but the thing that triggers these kids its a female troll dealing with family issues.

Seriously something weird is happening with kids these days.

I absolutely loved the video. If Warcraft needs something is the OG Horde races getting into the spotlight for once.

It's typically not "kids" who have this opinion or others like it...

[Tziva]

This thread is not constructive.