Midnight "brokie edition" start 3 days late

[Count Zero]

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[Kyanion]

Just as a tip for folks as they parse other messages in here to respond to ... please remember that in general, many of the things you see on the internet are either ragebait or people regurgitating ragebait talking points because they ate the onion/ drank the [flavor] aid / etc.

I mean of course it is being regurgitated. This isn't the first EA from Blizz which makes me laugh that people are up in arms over it. They apparently are okay enough with it to keep playing the fuckin game.

[GMZohar1]

Honestly its probably a thing they added to stop everyone from logging onto it at the same time at launch and crashing everything for a day.. Now it just crashes everything for half a day

[Hitei]

You see things listed but you don't know how many are moving.

This isn't conjecture. I move overpriced stuff every single expansion launch. How are you just completely unaware of basic expansion or patch trends or ordinary player behavior? Most people using the AH will buy things at whatever dumb price they see things listed at. At content drops, this means people will buy bags for thousands of gold even though they'll be a couple hundred by the end of the week. It means they buy decor for 25,000-50,000g because they just want any new thing immediately even though it'll be half that the next day and a tenth of that a week or two later.

The first 12-24 hours of an expansion allow you to just sit at the AH and make millions with basic crafting, or fly around and make millions with basic gathering.

The limiting factor isn't if things sell or not at wildly overpriced listings. They sell. It's how much you can sell before competive overproduction of supply tanks the price down to not being worth pursuing. Which is why 3-4 days of ensured Demand > Supply and 3-4 days of delayed price cliff it's a stupidly powerful advantage.

[Zodiark]

But I'm not "standing in line to get in" in the club, though. I'm currently chilling and enjoying other clubs while the WoW Midnight club doesn't open for the public.

I was more or less referring to those that mainly play WoW like myself. I have played most major MMORPG's back in the WoW-Killer days. I have had years of game time in GW2 and FFXIV as well as SWTOR. Just to name a few. WoW is my game for better or worse. I take a break to play a single player game once in a while sure if something really good comes out like BG3 and such. I mean that's me though If you or anyone else wants to play other things have at it. When I had way more free time than I do now I used to bounce around with 2-3 different monthly subs going for different MMO's. So I get it.

[WowIsDead64]

3 days? I have opposite opinion. 3 days are nothing. I would never pay extra 30/60$ (or how much it costs?) for just 3 extra days. Other games provide "early access" to content half year early. THAT'S, what I call early access. And Blizzard are just greedy, as always. In most cases casual players even prefer to join xpack little bit later to avoid main players' wave and overcrowding. May be week later.

[Lolites]

you only repeated the assertion without explaining why.

bcs thats alle he (and every moron calling wow or ea p2w) has, strong BELIEF that its true, without any basis in reality

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This isn't the first EA from Blizz

this is really noteworthy, we HAD ea for tww, and it was so inconsequential it was not mentioned since tww released, until now
but yeah, its the end of the world (of warcraft) again! we are dooooooooooomed!

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I would never pay extra 30/60$ (or how much it costs?) for just 3 extra days.

good news! you a.) dont have to and b.) its about half a dozen things included in that pack...
so even people who actualy play the game unklike you will not play 30bucks for "just 3 extra days"

[Nivena]

3 days early of server issues and bugs. Enjoy

Same, not buying into that. I'd rather wait until the worst is behind us in terms of login queues/bugs. I still vividly remember Warlords of Draenor on the first day. Was unplayable.

[Big Thanks]

Same, not buying into that. I'd rather wait until the worst is behind us in terms of login queues/bugs. I still vividly remember Warlords of Draenor on the first day. Was unplayable.

I dont understant where are you guys coming from with all this "unplayable bugs"

Last time i remember that happened was in WOD...the "trees".

[Xilurm]

So many people in here are against the OP lol. I bet the same exact people also complain about CEO's treating people like trash.

Guess what, you guys are the reason that happens in the first place. The hypocrisy of some people...

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You're not starting late, you're starting right on time. We (the people with EA) start earlier.
May i advise you to start as a warrior in Midnight? That rage will come in handy.

No, he is starting late. The EA start is the official launch, let's not pretend otherwise. FFXIV has the same thing where if you pre-order you start a few days early and everyone jokes about it being the official launch while they obviously know its true.

[Lolites]

So many people in here are against the OP lol. I bet the same exact people also complain about CEO's treating people like trash.
Guess what, you guys are the reason that happens in the first place. The hypocrisy of some people...

soo we should pretend early access is and issue bcs of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT issue? bcs yeah, it is 10000% different issue...
i guess it makes sense, as long as you dont try to use your brain and think about it...

but you are right about one thing, hypocrisy of some people, who come here and whine about this non-issue as if its end of the world, and then go and pay and play the game... if you are truly so concerned go, boycott it, or stop pretending you actualy care about anything more than the complaining itself...
i would say people like YOU are the reason it happens, people who do have issue with something and do nothing, why should people who clearly see no issue with this do something if you dont?!

it was the same shit with TWW, early access will be the end of the world! then nothing happened and all (or most) those who had issue with it hapily played, and it was not even mentioned since tww release till now... what a laughable non-issue you people can overblown into pure doom, its incredible...

[WowIsDead64]

good news! you a.) dont have to and b.) its about half a dozen things included in that pack...
so even people who actualy play the game unklike you will not play 30bucks for "just 3 extra days"

There are two categories of rewards for me. Cosmetic and ones, that have some utility. Cosmetic rewards are more about collecting just for sake of collecting. They're usually FOMO and major problem with FOMO - is that if you've already missed some FOMO rewards, then it's pointless to collect them any further, as it would be impossible to have complete collection anyway. So, for me cosmetic rewards usually don't have any value. Having just another mount/pet/transmog, that would be just +1 to count and would collect dust while being unused for ages - is meaningless. And early access - is about utility. More usable. But. If those 3 days would be compared to what is usually provided as "early access" in other games, you would understand, that they're nothing. They aren't worth their price. No reason to treat them as some sort of ultimate mandatory reward and becoming crazy about it.

The biggest problem with such rewards in case of Blizzard - they try to keep them useless to keep them optional, that is actually good, but pricing misses the mark in this case.

[Lolites]

They aren't worth their price.

it basicaly have no price...
ignoring the cosmetics bcs you dont want them doesnt make price of ea higher, it makes you moron...
"i only want the tire, so if i buy whole car its too expensive" yeah, no shit, so dont do it, doesnt mean the tire is priced as whole car, just that you would be wasting money if you buy it...

No reason to treat them as some sort of ultimate mandatory reward and becoming crazy about it.

i dont, i literaly said multiple times the 3days early access is complete non-issue...

pricing misses the mark in this case.

no it doesnt, you just ignore dozen of other things in the pack bcs you are not interested in them, thats not how it works...
i doubt there is anyone buying the pack just for early access...

[Big Thanks]

i doubt there is anyone buying the pack just for early access...

Every friend i know the most important part is the so called "early acess" (aka early release)
And yes every single one of them tried to rationalize the decision to buy it.
You already know the conversation:

"is technically 78 euros because it comes with a 1 month sub"

At least in my group is the main topic of conversation.
Everyone wants to play "on launch day" aka "early access" aka "early release" aka "easy cashgrab for nerds" xD

[WowIsDead64]

it basicaly have no price...
ignoring the cosmetics bcs you dont want them doesnt make price of ea higher, it makes you moron...
"i only want the tire, so if i buy whole car its too expensive" yeah, no shit, so dont do it, doesnt mean the tire is priced as whole car, just that you would be wasting money if you buy it...

Wrong example, because situation is opposite. It's about tire manufacturers not selling them separately from car. Yeah, such business model aims at "true fans", who would buy everything anyway. But it's faulty for majority of playerbase, cuz for ordinal players it's about being tricked into paying 2-3 months sub price for just 3 days.

At the end selling things in bundles - is terrible business model. I played other FPS game, where early access to heroes was given for pre-ordering full 4-hero bundles only, while majority of players wanted just 1-2. Of course at the end that business model failed. They had to prolong early access from 1-2 months to half year and sell heroes separately.

[Bumkin]

My rage flared again when i opened up Battlenet today and a pop up showed up:

"Start 3 days early if you buy the epic edition"

I've coped with many other practices of Blizzard but this one i really hate.

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I pay 50 bucks + sub (60 bucks), triple A game money and i get treated so disrespectfully by having to sit in my chair and watch everyone else play the game early on expansion launch.

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I have the money, i even GIFTED a friend the epic edition but i DONT own the epic edition myself, thats not the point, is a matter of principle.
Im not paying 90 bucks for an expansion myself.

totally agree, this is extremly racist from blizzard, people of colour have statistically lower incomes and cannot afford premium edition, they are being forced to remain behind progression, early access is a racist practice but blizzard doesnt care

[Just Passing through]

So many people in here are against the OP lol. I bet the same exact people also complain about CEO's treating people like trash.

Guess what, you guys are the reason that happens in the first place. The hypocrisy of some people...

If you read OPs first post all the way through and as others have pointed out, OP did indeed guy and gift EA versions. So they are the number 1 hypocrite.

I guess that is the beauty of looking at things that suit the own narrative.

Sure, if you say the practice is fine but complain about CEO's treating people like trash - you are a hypocrite.

But if you complain about the practice BUT STILL BUY EA...even pay for any game of the company - in my book, you are even worse.

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I have the money, i even GIFTED a friend the epic edition but i DONT own the epic edition myself, thats not the point, is a matter of principle.
Im not paying 90 bucks for an expansion myself.

This has been adressed earlier, but I don't see you replying to it. Apologies if you did and I just don't find the reply.

To me this is a very strange "principle" that you have there..in fact not a principle at all. You gifted the epic edition. You supported EA by that. Maybe you thought it would be nice for your friend to have the cosmetics and the game time and weren't aware of the EA - but then you said yourself you were aware and that is why you buy the normal edition for yourself.

So does that now make your friend a Blizzard shill for owning the epic edition? No - it is still YOU. YOU spend the money on it...and in fact...the money you paid for YOUR normal edition goes to THE SAME Blizzard that has you so enraged about early access.

Congratz..you bought several versions of the game, sending Blizzard the message that it is all great and they will likely not abandon this practice.

I take a guy who is honest and says "Meh, it is fine...I bought it" anytime over the complainers who STILL BUY a product they hate.

Like I said earlier, I give anyone a pass if your life and wellbeing depends on a product, but we are talking a bloody game here.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

This has been adressed earlier, but I don't see you replying to it. Apologies if you did and I just don't find the reply.

OP has not addressed this, and like usual, will not address it. It goes against their emotional outburst, for one, and they would much rather just agree with sentiments being poured out into this thread instead of actually discussing his points made/criticisms received.

[SL1200]

Ok so pay to win is the wrong term. I would just like it if we were all starting at the same time.

[Lolites]

Every friend i know the most important part is the so called "early acess" (aka early release)

doubt it, but if so you have some dumass friends...
then again ea being "most important" doesnt mean they buy it just for early access...