Cozy Kobold Collection - New Transmog Bundle

[Daedius]

They're not even appealing, and they marked it up at €40...

/smh

[HatsHatsHats]

Nice backpacks but holy shit they're ugly

[Holdodlig]

You must not have played WoW very long. Cause tons of players and people will most definitely buy this stuff. Welcome to planet Earth where people will buy what ever the hell they want with their money.

Thank you for your concern but I know what kind of stuff WoW player buys and this one is out of the chart. This stuff isn't goofy enough to be sold like the murloc pled and kobolds aren't as iconic murlocs to even be considered as a selling point in World of Warcraft even with a full zone dedicated to them in TWW and a full Hearthstone expansion about them.

This is the kind of crap people don't even bother to use when it's free which is why I am asking again, why would anyone spend 20 bucks on that when you already have goofier / better appearances for free, except maybe peoples who want to do a FNAF vibe transmog ? But I think the global demography of WoW is too old to care about FNAF so I'm still confused.

[Just Passing through]

Are they edgy? With spikes and skulls? Because that would be COOL! /s

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Yea, has been shitty Disneycraft since.... what, 2007? Or when do you think it ended? Has to be latest at TBC.

TBC is when we got "collect poop" quests...so it must have been before that

[Relapses]

Thank you for your concern but I know what kind of stuff WoW player buys and this one is out of the chart. This stuff isn't goofy enough to be sold like the murloc pled and kobolds aren't as iconic murlocs to even be considered as a selling point in World of Warcraft even with a full zone dedicated to them in TWW and a full Hearthstone expansion about them.

This is the kind of crap people don't even bother to use when it's free which is why I am asking again, why would anyone spend 20 bucks on that when you already have goofier / better appearances for free, except maybe peoples who want to do a FNAF vibe transmog ? But I think the global demography of WoW is too old to care about FNAF so I'm still confused.

You ever walk by a store in the mall full of tacky clothing you'd never purchase and think to yourself, "who the fuck buys this shit?"

Well, see, they're able to afford a store in the mall, so clearly somebody is buying it. It might not be yourself, or people you know, but there's a demographic for literally anything under conspicuous consumption. And unlike the vendor in the mall, Blizzard has absolutely zero overhead for digital goods like this, so even if only a couple thousand people buy it, it's pure profit margin for them.

[Holdodlig]

You ever walk by a store in the mall full of tacky clothing you'd never purchase and think to yourself, "who the fuck buys this shit?"

Well, see, they're able to afford a store in the mall, so clearly somebody is buying it. It might not be yourself, or people you know, but there's a demographic for literally anything under conspicuous consumption. And unlike the vendor in the mall, Blizzard has absolutely zero overhead for digital goods like this, so even if only a couple thousand people buy it, it's pure profit margin for them.

Your comparison is wrong in so many ways. You don't have thousand of free clothes waiting for you back home. You have thousand of different clothing brands in a store where in Blizzard store it's just products made by employees of the same company. It's not because something is made that this thing will sell.

We are not talking about a company with millions of employees, factories all around the world (China or Indonesia), we speak of a company with maybe like 100 artists (and I think I am overly exagerating that statement) working on different kinds of cosmetic. So yes, whenever you run a shop you can allow yourself to sell a lot of craps because there's a lot of brands and you will want to touch the bigger public. When your work force is limited, this logic does not apply.

[Relapses]

Your comparison is wrong in so many ways. You don't have thousand of free clothes waiting for you back home. You have thousand of different clothing brands in a store where in Blizzard store it's just products made by employees of the same company. It's not because something is made that this thing will sell.

So you didn't understand the comparison. Got it.

We are not talking about a company with millions of employees, factories all around the world (China or Indonesia), we speak of a company with maybe like 100 artists (and I think I am overly exagerating that statement) working on different kinds of cosmetic. So yes, whenever you run a shop you can allow yourself to sell a lot of craps because there's a lot of brands and you will want to touch the bigger public. When your work force is limited, this logic does not apply.

Do you think that Blizzard is forcing its artists to create bad transmog on purpose of something? I'm really struggling to understand why you can't wrap your mind around how conspicuous consumption works. Your opinion that this is "worse than the stuff that's free" is hardly objective. This stuff has value to somebody, even if you fail to have the capacity to understand who that somebody is.

[Hellfury]

Korean MMORPGS must be jelous.

Payed Expansions AND Subscription AND gold selling AND cosmetic cash shop putting stuff 2 days after a expansion launches.

[Holdodlig]

So you didn't understand the comparison. Got it.



Do you think that Blizzard is forcing its artists to create bad transmog on purpose of something? I'm really struggling to understand why you can't wrap your mind around how conspicuous consumption works. Your opinion that this is "worse than the stuff that's free" is hardly objective. This stuff has value to somebody, even if you fail to have the capacity to understand who that somebody is.

Your comparison was simply bad.

And congratulation, you've understood half my point. I am not saying that someone at Blizzard is forcing bad design. I am saying that the guy who had this specific idea was completely out of touch with what the players are looking for. Again, and I don't think that's hard to understand, Blizzard doesn't have the workforce to build thousands of different transmogs. So, again, why would they choose to build such an unattractive armor ? Again, I've seen nobody wearing that stuff ?

And it is not about objectivity. I'll just show how poor is your comparison again, but when people walk into a store, they will have different styles of clothes unless they go to really niche / specific clothing stores (sport, tuxedos, any subgenre such as preppy, cowboy, goth etc ...). Here, we're in the very niche situations. While I'll agree with the fact that there is a wide variety of players in WoW, they are all here because the global style / art direction of the game is fitting their tastes. So yeah, while you can't satisfy everyone, it is really easy to guess what the majority of the playerbase would like. And I am sorry, but a crappy costume that's half as funny as the murloc / wendigo one isn't or else you would see way more people wearing this goofy costume.

My only guess here is that the murloc costume sold well because murloc are iconic and the pieces can be used alone, and they tried to capitalize on the same success.

[Melius]

this is for furries, no?

[Relapses]

Your comparison was simply bad.

And congratulation, you've understood half my point. I am not saying that someone at Blizzard is forcing bad design. I am saying that the guy who had this specific idea was completely out of touch with what the players are looking for. Again, and I don't think that's hard to understand, Blizzard doesn't have the workforce to build thousands of different transmogs. So, again, why would they choose to build such an unattractive armor ? Again, I've seen nobody wearing that stuff ?

You don't need to see people wearing the armor in order for it to be worth Blizzard's time. Even if only a very small fraction of the playerbase buys this, it'll be successful in the eyes of Blizzard because the dev cost was likely a single artist's Monday afternoon. If you can turn less than a thousand dollar's worth of investment into hundreds of thousands of dollars, wouldn't you?

And it is not about objectivity. I'll just show how poor is your comparison again, but when people walk into a store, they will have different styles of clothes unless they go to really niche / specific clothing stores (sport, tuxedos, any subgenre such as preppy, cowboy, goth etc ...). Here, we're in the very niche situations. While I'll agree with the fact that there is a wide variety of players in WoW, they are all here because the global style / art direction of the game is fitting their tastes. So yeah, while you can't satisfy everyone, it is really easy to guess what the majority of the playerbase would like. And I am sorry, but a crappy costume that's half as funny as the murloc / wendigo one isn't or else you would see way more people wearing this goofy costume.

Again, you're making the mistake of conflating your own opinion with that of objectivity. We are not all here for the same global style / art direction. You cannot possibly speak on behalf of all players. And the problem here is that you seemingly can't wrap your mind around there even being a niche audience for something like this. It can't just exist. It has to exist for a reason. There has to be some greater narrative behind it. You know like:

My only guess here is that the murloc costume sold well because murloc are iconic and the pieces can be used alone, and they tried to capitalize on the same success.

[Just Passing through]

Thank you for your concern but I know what kind of stuff WoW player buys .....

With that knowledge, you are a person that would get paid highly at Blizzard and possibly any company.

But..no...you have no idea what "WoW player buys" - because there are millions from all walks of life, from all economies and from all kinds of cultures. I only need to look at me friend list (on which people are that I personally know) - they are male, female, all european, just from different countries and they all do different shiit in the game - some of which does not interest me in the least and..wouldn't you know it...one of them even bought this very transmog.

Even if you don't like the clothes shop analogy of @Relapses - the line that should be taken in is: "....you'd never purchase and think to yourself, "who the fuck buys this shit?" " - and this is exactly the shop here.

I personally look at this kobold transmog, at the grove gliders, at the decors and think: "Who the eff buys this shit?" - yet people just might. And maybe they don't - in which case Blizzard might not continue down the line. But you probably thought the same about the Murloc costume or the Onesies that they had on sale / Twitch Drop.

On the other hand I might spend 25 Euros to race change my troll to a Haranir and other people will be "Who the eff does that shit? Haranir are the worst"

Long way of saying: No..you do not know what every WoW player out there would or would not buy.

[Nerovar]

Thankful for the fact that Blizzard isn't putting anything desirable on the ingame store like good looking horse models that look like horses and don't have 10 gorillion things attached to the saddle.

The fact that the transmogs on the store mostly look like various flavours of clown suits sometimes feels like a form commentary on Blizzard's part.

[kranur]

WoW has always been full of silly bullshit and if you think otherwise, either you're clueless or in denial.

In the last few years it got beyond silly.