Rogue PvE Fist/Sword Spec

[FormulaDrixx]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000
Yes/no?

[FormulaDrixx]

Please answer?

[Anaema]

Imp Gouge? WTF? 3/5 Lightning Reflexes is my opinion. Otherwise, good stuff.

[Zear]

WTF!? are you kidding with me? spec both fist and sword spec and not full Lethality.. gg have fun lowest ranked dps in raid. (maybe a shadowstep noob comes after)

[Zypox]

If you are using a sword and a fist weapon atm.. Then go get yourself a sword more fast! (Works like crap to have two different kinds of weapons.. It would be like a mage with 51 points in frost, and 10 if fire, that only is using firespells!)

And then I would recommend a build something like this for raiding;
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000 (This is just you spec changed a bit)

(But if you really want to top the damagemeters, then I would go get some consortium and CoT repu and get those two epic daggers, and spec 56/0/5)

[Thuz]

If you were to have a fist/sword spec with 5/5 in both, you'd be better off with something like:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

[Dextar]

If you were to have a fist/sword spec with 5/5 in both, you'd be better off with something like:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

Yes, this is the spec you should go if you are going to do Fist/Sword.

[Dextar]

If you are using a sword and a fist weapon atm.. Then go get yourself a sword more fast! (Works like crap to have two different kinds of weapons.. It would be like a mage with 51 points in frost, and 10 if fire, that only is using firespells!)

(But if you really want to top the damagemeters, then I would go get some consortium and CoT repu and get those two epic daggers, and spec 56/0/5)

It doesn't "work like crap" as you've stated. It actually works extremely well for Fist/Sword as sword spec procs MH attacks, having fist spec gives you an extra 5% crit chance with fist weapons, so your MH attack (SS/auto attacks) benefit from the 5% increased crit AND your sword spec procs which make your MH fire off do the same. Sure it's arguably not as good as Sword/Sword, but it's up there.

And daggers/mut for raiding = fail.

[insidelane]

Still there must be points better spent elsewhere than a dual sword/fist spec.


I agree with above, if you want to go daggers go combat daggers not mut.

[0eyvind]

Whether uou use Sword or Fist in Mainhand then get the S2/3 offhand so taht it matches your Mainhand. And respecc 19/42.

I agree with above, if you want to go daggers go combat daggers not mut.

Dont know what mean about that, but if you're saying daggers isnt a way to raid dps you are wrong. The whole way from Attumen to Vashj i've been dagger. Lower geared than a lot of my fellow rogues. Higher dps'ing than all of them (Almost every time)

So that would wrong in my eyes

[Deleted]

If you are using a sword and a fist weapon atm.. Then go get yourself a sword more fast! (Works like crap to have two different kinds of weapons.. It would be like a mage with 51 points in frost, and 10 if fire, that only is using firespells!)

And then I would recommend a build something like this for raiding;
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000 (This is just you spec changed a bit)

(But if you really want to top the damagemeters, then I would go get some consortium and CoT repu and get those two epic daggers, and spec 56/0/5)

top meters as mutilate? Are you joking?

[Deleted]

Mutilate is just an awesome hybrid spec, as for raiding and even for doing successfull pvp.

You can do a very high amount of dps while raiding, and you can even compare and beat other rogues who are specced 11/27/23 with swords, or the lame normal combat builds ;>

[wisemouth]

I use the sword/fist spec for my PVE spec on a consistent basis (respeccing back and forth for PVP) and it keeps me at the top of the DMeters, but I tested it against pure swords and it fell a bit short. How it works: Your 5/5 sword spec OH is proccing extra attacks only for your 5/5 fist spec (+5 crit) MH ,but without the instants from another sword MH the sword spec extra attack just doesn't proc often enough. If you do want to do it, this is the spec that I use currently for PVE. (Highest damage output imo)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...00000000000000

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Darktreader

[gringo]

Mutilate is definitely a fun spec, but as soon as you encounter a poison immune mob (karazhan), you will lose big time. it is e very viable pvp spec due to very fast cp buildup... cheap shot, mutilate, 4/5 kidney , and you target will almost be helpless. stunlock was never as much fun

as for combat: get yourself either 2 swords or fist (S1 are cheap to get) and save yourself the 5 talent points for more crucial talents.

[Lesane]

Mutilate is definitely a fun spec, but as soon as you encounter a poison immune mob (karazhan), you will lose big time. it is e very viable pvp spec due to very fast cp buildup... cheap shot, mutilate, 4/5 kidney , and you target will almost be helpless. stunlock was never as much fun

as for combat: get yourself either 2 swords or fist (S1 are cheap to get) and save yourself the 5 talent points for more crucial talents.

There's no lack of talent points for crucial talents if you go double weapon spec, a lot of points in a standard combat DPS build are fillers. For example: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGcV0bVzEMGot
It still contains ALL talents which increase your DPS, AND 2 weapon specs. I really don't know where you would want to distribute those 5 points and increase your DPS at the same time. (P.S: 3/3 gouge because a filled talent looks prettier than a half-done talent :P it really doesn't matter what you pick)

[Kodaks]

As Lesane said, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGcV0bVzEMGot, is the best DPS wise for you dual weapon specs.

But, to be honest, I'd stick with one Weapon Spec or the other, coupled with the same HM and OH weapon type.

Fist OH only; you're losing the 5% crit from MH attacks, and vice versa
etc
Sword Spec has a similar drawback on not having MH and OH of the same weapon

For example, with just the one Weapon Spec, you could max out LR and gain an extra 5% physical damage avoidance; possible life saver, and kind to your healers too. And be left with a spare point.

Your DPS will be higher with just the 1 Weapon Specialisation and the MH/OH to match that spec.