Improved Mortal Strike- Clarification needed

[Felix]

Mortal Strike rank 6 deals weapon damage +300.

If you take improved Mortal Strike you increase ONLY the 300 damage i.e 300+5%= 315 or the entire weapon damage i.e. if you make base damage of 800 + 300 from MS =1100 and adding 5% from Improved MS= Total Weapon damage with Improved MS 1155 (1100+5%)?

Could someone clarify this?

Thank you.

[lithander]

It's 105% of the unimproved MS damage. It does apply both to the bonus damage AND weapon damage part.

This is not something I heard somewhere or I think sounds sensible but I tested it myself. (In WoW 2.2 though)

[Felix]

It's 105% of the unimproved MS damage. It does NOT only apply to the bonus damage but to also the weapon damage part.

This is not something I heard somewhere or I think sounds sensible but I tested it myself. (In WoW 2.2 though)

Then its worth taking it for sure

[lithander]

Then its worth taking it for sure

If you want to deal high sustained damage in PvP with a 2 hander this is the way to go imo. Also pickup Endless Rage because the 2 MS / 1 WW cycle consumes more rage.

The Improved Slam path is still valid but more suited for a PvE then a PvP environment and it needs some pretty kick ass gear and raidbuffs to be effective.

[Felix]

If you want to deal high sustained damage in PvP with a 2 hander this is the way to go imo. Also pickup Endless Rage because the 2 MS / 1 WW cycle consumes more rage.

The Improved Slam path is still valid but more suited for a PvE then a PvP environment and it needs some pretty kick ass gear and raidbuffs to be effective.

To the expense of Enrage I mean as you need 3 in TM.You are not enraged that much under an arena situation.

[lithander]

To the expense of Enrage I mean as you need 3 in TM.You are not enraged that much under an arena situation.

I would agree... most of the time when I'm getting crits I'm the focus target and then I usually go turtle mode with a shield out. Depends on the format you play I guess.

As for TM I've always felt it's a must-have talent and it's value only improved since last patch. I find myself in the need to shift into def stance for Intervene, Shield Reflection or Disarm quite often and all of these are instantly available with TM. Another situation where I love having TM is when you get to leave combat in zerker stance and get to (improved) charge.

[Felix]

I would agree... most of the time when I'm getting crits I'm the focus target and then I usually go turtle mode with a shield out. Depends on the format you play I guess.

As for TM I've always felt it's a must-have talent and it's value only improved since last patch. I find myself in the need to shift into def stance for Intervene, Shield Reflection or Disarm quite often and all of these are instantly available with TM. Another situation where I love having TM is when you get to leave combat in zerker stance and get to (improved) charge.

44/14/3 would be anice build with 5/5 2H, 2/2 BF, 3/3 IH etc

[lithander]

Or you go 45/5/11 to pickup TM, Last Stand and Improved Bloodrage from the Prot tree. (And 10% more armor or some such) I really love Last Stand!

Well, the talent choice got a lot more interesting last patch!^^

[Felix]

Or you go 45/5/11 to pickup TM, Last Stand and Improved Bloodrage from the Prot tree. (And 10% more armor or some such) I really love Last Stand!

Well, the talent choice got a lot more interesting last patch!^^

It is but I would NEVER remove PH as it is THE PvP Talent.

[omglazor]

Giving up Enrage is plain stupid. Chances of you getting crit are extremely high and 25% +damage is not something to pass up on. If you really want imp MS you could always go 41/20/0.

[Felix]

Giving up Enrage is plain stupid. Chances of you getting crit are extremely high and 25% +damage is not something to pass up on. If you really want imp MS you could always go 41/20/0.

In BGs and solo yes Enrage procs a lot but not in arena. Well if u wanna get at least some enrage (2 points) you may remove 3 from IH