Penetration in PvE

[wattsie15]

Ive always wondered but never been informed as to if spell penetration does actually lower the resistances to spells on PvE mobs and bosses.
Any information would be nice

[Krypt]

long story short, no. warlock curses doo dat. supremus and rage winterchill are the only exception afaik.

[wattsie15]

So its a useless PvE stat huh... great i wish they would find a usefull gem that would fit into a blue socket that doesnt have stam on it :

[Toejhomas]

Just because its a blue socket, doesnt mean you have to put a blue gem in it.

[Krypt]

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32215

[Xs]

Just because its a blue socket, doesnt mean you have to put a blue gem in it.

also stam is still nice with all the aoe fights and raid damage, dead caster isnt doing any damage, unless its an affi lock ofc

[greenmasheen]

i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?

[td-]

i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?

because there are no caster enchants for cloak other than subtlety

[metalhead]

120 armor! all the way

[greenmasheen]

because there are no caster enchants for cloak other than subtlety

subtlety would be useful in that it keeps you under the tanks threat table.

[Vereku]

i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?

Because they apparently fail and haven't gotten Subtley to cloak. Only way to go for Healers/Casters.

[chaud]

Because they apparently fail and haven't gotten Subtley to cloak. Only way to go for Healers/Casters.

They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P
That or they use the same back for PvP.

[Pyrostemplar]

i see mages doing BT/Sunwell with penetration on the cloak...?

I've seen a mage in T5 with blue melee crit jewels on the gear :P

ppl do the strangest things...

[heeps]

So its a useless PvE stat huh...

Yes.

[topfer]

long story short, no. warlock curses doo dat. supremus and rage winterchill are the only exception afaik.

Warlock curses don't work for nature *crai*

Penetration does have a noticeable effect on my lightning bolts in pve.

[Wildhorn]

Ok, to add nothing to this conversation


I love penetration during raids... it make me happy ??? :P

[Sokar]

They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P
That or they use the same back for PvP.

This ~1.2% additional aggro reduce (2% enchant, sdr/talent) won't make a big difference.
Normally you'll use Invisibility before you get that close (and that's not very often).

Penetration or Subtlety are both more or less usefull/less for mages in PVE.

So I prefered penetration, since it helps at supremus and the case there isn't a CoE up (WL dead, trashmobs, 10/5 mans etc).

[sirrk]

They are mages, don't need to worry about threat! :P

EXACTLY! no dmg = no threat!

[Sholtar]

Penetration does have a noticeable effect on my lightning bolts in pve.

What PvE, exactly? Last I checked the vast majority of 25-man TBC raid bosses have no spell resistances.