Best RET Wotlk talent builds

[Wappo]

This is my favorite build at the moment:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sVZxhZxfMxbczAIsgzAo

I don't know if I would use this build in arenas, but I've tested it a couple times in the new BG and am loving it (probably because no one else uses it).

I use Seal of Righteousness with a slow one hander and shield. It may not make that much sense, but I enjoy beating almost every melee I run up against because I have about 17k armor and put out a decent amount of DPS.

Seal of Righteousness hits for about 500ish.
Judgement of Righteousness crits for about 5k (8k+ winged)
Shield of Righteousness crits for over 2k. (514 Block Value from Strength alone)

I also tried this build in the instances and still managed to pull about 1600-1800dps in most cases.

[Rawberry]

I don't know if I would use this build in arenas, but I've tested it a couple times in the new BG and am loving it (probably because no one else uses it).

I use Seal of Righteousness with a slow one hander and shield. It may not make that much sense, but I enjoy beating almost every melee I run up against because I have about 17k armor and put out a decent amount of DPS.

A Retribution Paladin with a Shield and a 1-hander? Uhm, okay?

[Karpalo]

I think he is using the stuned/disorinted numbers. I get with 2k ap and 600 sp and using http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...ldestroyer.jpg with 6% in 2h specialization.

(507 x 1.06) x .3 + 2000 x .36 + 600 x .58 =1229 x2 (stun) x 2 crit = 4880
(761 x 1.06) x .3 + 2000 x .36 + 600 x .58 =1310 x2 x 2 = 5239

Theory craft with only 2000k ap at 80 is probably way low and I don't know if the weapon damage is accounted for after AP or before. If after AP then the numbers would look like this again a 80 would have a higher AP I think.

992 x 1.06 x .3 +2000 x .36 + 600 x .58 = 1383 x 2 x 2 = 5534
1246 x 1.06 x .3 + 2000 x .36 +600 x .58 = 1464 x2 x2 = 5857

Still pretty sick dmg imo. I find it hard to belive clothies will be over 20k in pvp gear, and as you said you are using lvl 70 ap values for that one.

[Samiel]

Looking at how AP scaled from WoW -> TBC I'd guess at 80th Ret pallies starting AP buffed for raids would be somewhere in the early 3000's and the end-game cap fully buffed closer to 5000 AP (This is with all raid buffs and consumables.)

Try plugging in numbers with those

[Dwarfmantang]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...00000000000000

Thats mine. I haven't gotten into beta and probably won't cuz my email account is broken right now. >.< But once WTOLK goes live this spec will probably revised a couple of times.

[Wappo]

A Retribution Paladin with a Shield and a 1-hander? Uhm, okay?

If you've never stuck a shield and one-hander on as ret, I'm going to have to assume you either don't arena or suck at it.

As for my spec, it may be unconventional but that was what I was going for. I gave it a chance and it ended up doing great by beating out almost every class I went up against (melee specifically).

If you don't believe me you can try it out yourself, if you have the gear that is.

[Verden Odela]

Idea:Go holy, there's insane talent builds for holy in Wotlk.