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  1. #1

    Need some help [Tanking]

    I just recently decided to start playing my warrior after ignoring him for a year
    Had 11k honor, so I grinded 4k and bought the Merciless Shield Wall
    Spent some gold and bought a bunch of green tanking items and ced's carver (was cheaper than 1h greens!)

    Anyway, i've been instancing all day and got *some* gear upgrades...
    Right now my
    rings
    trinkets
    ranged
    are all still dps items, so working on replacing those

    anyway

    I have 432 defense and 57 resilience so I don't think I'm uncrittable yet...
    Right now, would off-tanking any part of karazhan be a possibility?

    Or would I 100% for sure need to replace all dps gear, all tanking greens, enchant all my gear, and buy 50g gems?

    thanks in advance

  2. #2

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    dont step into karazhan and expect to tank.

    start by buying some more serious tanking items like the felsteel set, the leggings from CoT revered and badge items(im guessing u dont have any badges since u cant possibly b tanking heroics with that gear).
    after u get a few more blues from normal 5 mans start running HC Mech for the sun eater and gather badges for some huge badge gear upgrades.

  3. #3
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    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    I'm too lazy to do the math, but you could try this script to see if you're crit immune or not:

    /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(5.6-((20+GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL))*.04+GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_CRIT_TAKEN_MELEE) ),1,0.5,0)

    Just copy & paste that in-game.

    If the number is 0 or negative, you are uncritable.

    As for the rest of your gear, an armory link would be nice to see if you're geared enough (which, unfortunately I doubt you are).

  4. #4

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Wow hahaha...
    Totally forgot the armory
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aenor&n=Graive

    And I have 3/3 felsteel


    (the macro came up with .8345, is that really close or no?)

  5. #5

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Should I be running heroics before karazhan?

  6. #6

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by KokoMonkey
    Should I be running heroics before karazhan?
    yes, and plenty of them. and dont try MGT yet.

  7. #7

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    I have other 70s so I've done many heroics before

    I know the easiest being Mech, Slavepens, and Underbog...

    How close is my gear to being able to do any of those?

  8. #8

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    i know...learn how to tank

  9. #9
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    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by KokoMonkey
    Wow hahaha...
    Totally forgot the armory
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aenor&n=Graive

    And I have 3/3 felsteel


    (the macro came up with .8345, is that really close or no?)
    0.8345 means you're *almost* crit immune.

    I'd say you could start doing some of the easier heroics, and maybe offtank karazhan if the rest of the raid is top-notch, especially the maintank, but for now focus on normal and heroic instances.

    Oh, and daggers are a terrible option for warriors, tanks in particular (because they're normalized at 1.3 speed). Try to get the sun-eater from heroic mechanar.

  10. #10

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Im pretty sure the number needs to be negative to be crit imune?

    Otherwise I would say, before heroic:

    1) crit imune
    2) +12K hp

    then you should be fine to start

  11. #11

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    To be honest in your current gear, i wouldnt be going anywhere near kara or any heroics, you will get flattened.

    There are loads of items you can get without having to rely on drops:

    Neck - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29336

    Chest - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29127 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25819

    Bracers - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28167

    Belt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31460

    Feet - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29325

    Rings - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30006 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29323

    Trinkets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30300 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28042 (if you took that one)

  12. #12
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    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by Madpete
    Im pretty sure the number needs to be negative to be crit imune?
    Yeah, that was me being terrible at math (somehow thought 0.8 was a negative number, heh) :-[

  13. #13

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy
    To be honest in your current gear, i wouldnt be going anywhere near kara or any heroics, you will get flattened.

    There are loads of items you can get without having to rely on drops:

    Neck - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29336

    Chest - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29127 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25819

    Bracers - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28167

    Belt - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31460

    Feet - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29325

    Rings - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30006 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29323

    Trinkets - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30300 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28042 (if you took that one)
    Sigh

    The problem with most of those, I've done those quests, and took the dps reward...

    And to Funnies...try reading and you'd understand this is a pure gear problem, nothing to do with skill.

  14. #14

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Get crit immune. Offtank KZ runs for your guild, pug, whatever. Take all the loot nobody wants. /Win

  15. #15

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alesthes
    Oh, and daggers are a terrible option for warriors, tanks in particular (because they're normalized at 1.3 speed). Try to get the sun-eater from heroic mechanar.
    WHS. With this gear level you won't be able to run through heroics easily if you don't have friends helping. PUGs can really suck tbh. You can try to get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31071 if you haven't done the quest before, which I'm assuming you have done :|

    Here is some suggestions directly from normal runs.

    Chest -> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28205 // http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28262

    Shoulder -> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27803

    There are lots of upgrades from heroics as you know, if you have the team to run them properly you'll be geared for Kara in no time.

  16. #16

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    If your guild has good players...you can OT Kara as fury. Go now with guild, not PuG as they usually require overgeared tanks. Dont be afraid of Kara...its cake!

  17. #17

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    wewt ur a gnome ! but yeah i recently geared a prot warr as well. ATM i agree with everyone , either do kz as fury or continue to tank norm 5 mans cus u'll struggle in heroics unles sgroup is relly pwnage. What i did was stack defense untill i got 490 ( think that is crit immune idk but it is the cap as i was told ) Once u have atleast 490 defence start to stack Stam , ( buy 12 stam or even 15 stam gens for ur gear. since u have othe rtonns u prob have enought money so i also reccomend u get the other crafted gear like the gun and the bracers

  18. #18

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    To get into Karazhan/start OT'ing.. you got to have at least:

    Full blue tanking items, no greens
    490Defence to be uncrittible
    13Kish armour
    Fully enchanted
    Blue tanking gems


    And that’s about it really... You’ll just need those and your ready to start karazhan ^^



  19. #19

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thaddeus
    If your guild has good players...you can OT Kara as fury. Go now with guild, not PuG as they usually require overgeared tanks. Dont be afraid of Kara...its cake!
    Haha for sure, what he said, as long as who ever your running with isnt all undergeared than you can OT as a shaman if really necessary lol, but ya as long as its nice if like you said you know what your doing just need the gear than its not hard, just work on getting some more gear make sure your uncritable for when you wana start MTing alittle its not nearly as important for an OT which wont be tanking as often, and soon enough youll be having to switch out some of your tanking gear for dps gear when you do stuff like Kara or heroics just because your not getting enough rage coming in :P

  20. #20

    Re: Need some help [Tanking]

    Also , u wanna get your block , parry and dodge % to about 60% total to MT KZ

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