Uh see mage vs. warrior.Originally Posted by Marvdatboi
But in this case it's not just the opening move, it's pretty much the whole fight where I'm dominated.
But it's fine with me because I have advantages over other classes.
Uh see mage vs. warrior.Originally Posted by Marvdatboi
But in this case it's not just the opening move, it's pretty much the whole fight where I'm dominated.
But it's fine with me because I have advantages over other classes.
Ok, so I'm going to spell out in simple terms what the blue said.Originally Posted by Jetro
"The design is for Titan's Grip to be a dps increase. It's easy to make it too much of an increase, and we may be being too cautious with the numbers at the moment. But when we talk about Lich King, we are assuming most Fury warriors are using two-handers. It's not supposed to be hard decision."
Translation for the retarded --- "Look fools, yeah, Titan Grip might be kinda fail and you ninnies are all being emo-dramawhores about it but we're going to make it work because we're itemizing gear around it. So if you guys would chill and let us finish up what we're doing in other parts of the game right now. We'll lay some sugar on ya so the talents are made so you will want to spec into the talent in order to do the BEST possible dps."
I hope that helps people.
The talk was about rogue openers. I run into far more rogues than feral druids. I'll try to be more specific next time, even though it has zero influence on the subject at hand.Originally Posted by blahblahnameblah
Obviously biases come into play. Each side trades advantages depending on getting an opener or drawing out of stealth. I just don't think rogues or feral druids have enough classes capable of spamming lower ranked AE spells for them to be at an even close to disadvantage because of it. Rank 1 spells are, in my opinion, a needed counter to stealth
We don't really think we need more caster hate in the game right now. - GC
You know, I really don't have an issue with mages having a (needed?) utility for countering stealth...
So, okay, keep your rank 1 basically mana-free spam, but as a trade off, lose the ability to blink out of a stun.
lol
Rank 1 Arcane Explosion is a non-factor for getting an opener off as a Rogue. That's all there is to it.
You sap the Mage, then molest him in any way you see fit. Stop talking about it.
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Yeah for the most part. I use rank 1 blizzard waaaay more for it. With how expensive full rank blizzard is on mana, it would pretty much kill the spell entirely as I don't think I've ever used the full rank spell in pvp.
We don't really think we need more caster hate in the game right now. - GC
At least you have some tools against it, if you don't want to spend the mana on it then you can stand or walk around like all the other classes waiting to get opened up on. This QQing is like a warrior crying that they cant spam demo shout infinitely to find rogues and druids. Stop whining.Originally Posted by Dinamic
I love it. Disagreeing = whining in WoW.Originally Posted by Blackburn
Yes we have tools to get rogues of out of stealth, as things are <i>now</i>. Once this change goes live, those tools have lost their use. It's just flat out, won't be worth the mana to guess a rogue out of stealth. You shouldn't have a no-worry guaranteed opener or waltz around in stealth. It's pretty much the only thing rogues have to worry about at the moment.
We don't really think we need more caster hate in the game right now. - GC
A class shouldn't be allowed to do what's it designed to do? That's why stealth detection eyes pop up in arena 2 minutes into game. And while we're at stopping classes from doing what they're suppose to, lets stop druids from inifinitely shifting out of snares and roots, and lets stop mages from blinking and rooting me all the time, because I don't like that, and like you I want things my way too.Originally Posted by Dinamic
And if you payed a bit more attention, you'd notice by the armory link in my sig that my main is a warrior, not a rogue.
Frost nova, pet nova, blink, auto snare/auto thunderclap/potential auto-nova on every hit of your armor, iceblock, frost armor, cold snap, another nova automatically when your shield goes down... and when in doubt.... sheep, reset fight... Seriously, with more buffs than any class so far in wotlk, mages just never stop complaining.Originally Posted by Marvdatboi
And since when do warriors have all those abilities?!?!
A class shouldn't have a blank check to do what it wants to do. Rogues are not <b>entitled</b> to an opener. They aren't <b>entitled</b> to have a free run around in stealth. Am I guaranteed to polymorph you off the bat just so I can get the opener, or are you given tools to keep me from doing that?Originally Posted by Blackburn
Classes have counters, abilities have counters. Rank 1 spells are a counter to stealth. It's always been that way. Really, what are you arguing?
Your main has nothing to do with this. I'm sorry if I tossed an incorrect pronoun at you, but it really doesn't change my point. The warrior:mage bias is shining though. At least I admitted mine.
We don't really think we need more caster hate in the game right now. - GC
Oh god you don't have rank 1 anymore.Originally Posted by Dinamic
STEALTH DOES ENTITLE ME TO RUN AROUND FOR FREE. Last i checked I was a STEALTH CLASS. We don't have a blank check, we open (if something doesn't pull us out of stealth), get some damage off, you're now going to kite me around for 7 years and maybe let me get a hit off now and then, if you don't blink away. Shutup, deal with it. I doubt you're actually that screwed.
I'd like to explain the something, it could be a pet, flare, a human anything who thinks there is a rogue, hell even me getting unlucky with lag, you could see me and AE or fn etc.
*shrugs*
I can't believe that mages are crying because of their missing aoe rank 1.
I am playing a druid, and I can break through ANY skill spamming and land an opener on my enemy. It's all about timing and sometimes you may have to use sprint.
The only option I can see is that you are playing against dumb rogues and druids. Therefore, the opener shouldn't matter much, since they are dumb and will probably mess up other things, too.
Mages are trying to argue the fact that if they wanna do away with downranking then give us tools to kite and and flush out stealthed chars. Seriously why are rogues even arguing that AE spam ruins their chances of killing a mage when you have so many damn options outside of stealth and that first opener. It's not like you can't get through the spam.Originally Posted by Sharandris
All I learned from your post is that mages are ENTITLED a basically mana free stealth breaker. lolOriginally Posted by Dinamic
lol.. the meleeback is better that the one from maggy :P :P
Originally Posted by Boubouille
Lol at mages.
You get sapped outside aoe range so what difference does it make, flare doesn't work so why should a rank 1 spell with no cooldown do the job better.