how are holy pallys supposed to heal now?

[peewee672]

FoL is pretty nerfed now so we cant spam it anymore

I was thinking it was more of a burst healer with instant holy lights => 2.0 holy light, but it seems too situational and mana costly

anyone have any ideas?

[Rawberry]

Suggestions?

Pick up a weapon and start smacking the snot out of everything, basicly become more like the Paladin role model Uther?

[peewee672]

not everything uther does is right

if uther knew how to bubble hearth he wouldnt be dead :-X

[Garrum]

You spam flash of light and burn out fast like a ret paladin. Then you divine plea and burn out again. Then you pop a mana pot and burn out again. Then you go make a sandwich, cause you are done.

[Rawberry]

if uther knew how to bubble hearth he wouldnt be dead :-X

He did you know, some stinking Priest just MD'ed his bloody bubble.

[Yvert]

You spam flash of light and burn out fast like a ret paladin. Then you divine plea and burn out again. Then you pop a mana pot and burn out again. Then you go make a sandwich, cause you are done.

This made me lol.

[peewee672]

hey i got an idea

how about u double (maybe even a little more!) the amount of mana needed to use flash of light but theres a talent that makes holy shock free mana for like 3 sec afterwards

so then the burst idea i was thinking about might work

[briany]

I'm going wtf here.

I've done a basic mana efficiency calculation and I found out holy light is 33% more efficient than FoL....

here's how I've done it.
assume the base mana is 4k at lvl 80. (I pick 4K for simple math and since all spells are percentage based on the base mana, and I'm just trying to find out the ratio, it doesnt matter exactly what the base mana is)

holy light max rank, 29% base mana
heals for 4888 to 5444 (avg. 5166 heal)
1160 mana

HP/MP: 4.453

FoL max rank, 7% base mana
heals for 785 - 879 (avg. 832 heal)
280 mana

HP/MP: 2.971


Let's look at holy shock as well
Holy shock max rank, 18% base mana
heals for 2401 - 2599 (avg. 2500 heal)
720 mana

HP/MP: 3.472

I think this discripancy is quite large. We aren't even factoring spell crit from talents into account...

both holy light and holy shock are reasonable, but FoL is terrible. Plz ask Blizzard to buff the healing to around 1.2k.

[Stormlord]

I'm sure it'll be ok my Fol heals for 2200 @ lvl 70 on beta. FoL = fast small heals with low mana cost compared to our bigger heal.

[toychristopher]

I'm sure it'll be ok my Fol heals for 2200 @ lvl 70 on beta. FoL = fast small heals with low mana cost compared to our bigger heal.

While Flash of Light does cost less mana and has a lower cast time than our big heal, Holy Light according to Brainy's calculations it is actually our least mana efficient heal.

[SoulPoetry]

*random math*

you completely ignore spell power and the resulting coefficient on the spells so your calculations aren't really valid.

[Iselian]

How are holy pallys supposed to heal? Just like before.

Except you'll be doing more holy shocks, and hopefully more resulting (instant) holy lights.

You'll put a Beacon of Light on someone, if you're spec'd for it. Who? That's situational.
-or-
You'll be giving additional healing over time with your Sheath of Light.


That's how they'll heal. And the smart players will (still) be great at it.

[Eucep]

Are you sure you are now noting down the coefficiency of spellpower or of +heal? Since those numbers seem VERY low for it.

[Mur.]

If anything it will be more fun.

Don't forget that FoL will still be worth it with 50% crit thanks to Sacred Shield.

Can someone tell me how long the "your next holy light is instant" thing lasts? Is it a buff you get when Holy Shock crits?

[Crispybacon]

How are holy pallys supposed to heal? Just like before.

Except you'll be doing more holy shocks, and hopefully more resulting (instant) holy lights.

You'll put a Beacon of Light on someone, if you're spec'd for it. Who? That's situational.
-or-
You'll be giving additional healing over time with your Sheath of Light.


That's how they'll heal. And the smart players will (still) be great at it.

the "smart" players won't be specced into sheathe of light in the first place.

[Guran]

I'm going wtf here.

I've done a basic mana efficiency calculation and I found out holy light is 33% more efficient than FoL....

here's how I've done it.
assume the base mana is 4k at lvl 80. (I pick 4K for simple math and since all spells are percentage based on the base mana, and I'm just trying to find out the ratio, it doesnt matter exactly what the base mana is)

holy light max rank, 29% base mana
heals for 4888 to 5444 (avg. 5166 heal)
1160 mana

HP/MP: 4.453

FoL max rank, 7% base mana
heals for 785 - 879 (avg. 832 heal)
280 mana

HP/MP: 2.971


Let's look at holy shock as well
Holy shock max rank, 18% base mana
heals for 2401 - 2599 (avg. 2500 heal)
720 mana

HP/MP: 3.472

I think this discripancy is quite large. We aren't even factoring spell crit from talents into account...

both holy light and holy shock are reasonable, but FoL is terrible. Plz ask Blizzard to buff the healing to around 1.2k.

Now could you do the same with the current spells?
I already know the answer, but if you do it yourself you won't be able to dispute the facts

[evawes1]

the "smart" players won't be specced into sheathe of light in the first place.

Why not?

[StormScion]

: how are holy pallys supposed to heal now?

Start using your hands and posibly sync them with your brain ... if u have any of those.

[Guran]

Now could you do the same with the current spells?
I already know the answer, but if you do it yourself you won't be able to dispute the facts

The fact nobody dares to reply to this says enough.

[Einzweidrei]

He did you know, some stinking Priest just MD'ed his bloody bubble.

There was certainly no MD back in the days when Uther was walking around.