Originally Posted by
Bluerelic
I actually made an account just so i could ask some of our beta and ptr pallies for some numbers, because as i see it right now, with out SHoR, pallies on the ptr and soon to be live, when 3.0.2 comes, will still need to have consecration in our single target tanking rotation.
I play live and on the PTR, this has nothing to do with beta since i dont have a beta account.
I raid in T6 level gear, and NO, being critable is not even a remote concern at that gear level.
Until pallies reach 75 our threat will still require consecration in the rotation. One big misconception is that a warrior tanking weapon will somehow increase our damage through the str/ap changes, tanking weapons do not have str or ap on them, the only buff they bring is the raw dps increase for HotR, i tank with Hammer of judgement out of MH and my warrior weap is the Unbreakable Will, and i've done some serious play testing of my own. What I've found is that while yes, the UW does do more damage with HotR, about 200 more a swing, i lose damage on holy shield, SoV, consecration, and any of the judgements, take into account that you can now 5 stack SoV on 3 mobs in multi mob situations, the increase of 600 damage from HotR on a 3+ mob situation is immediately overshadowed by the loss of far more than 600 damage from your combined other abilities. I know what blizz is doing, i fully understand the str/ap to damage they are trying to focus on, but even with a good tanking weapon, you do less damage with a warrior weapon than a spell damage weapon, period. It has no str or ap, and its stam is comparible to a spell damage weapon. It brings absolutely no increase to anything other than HotR and not as much damage as a SP weapon will bring to your combined arsenal. However, i believe a solid melee dps weapon with good str/ap stats would be the best choice atm. These are just my findings, and maybe they are skewed in some way, but i do in actual numbers less damage with a tanking weapon than a SP weapon, factor in reckoning and all the seal procs and im sure its even more unbalanced. Once you take consecration out and factor in ShoR, which has no coefficient other than BV that i know of(im not on beta, so im not sure), the loss in SP will probably bring the numbers more level, maybe even in the favor of the warrior weap, but idk where you pallies are getting your warrior weapons are better numbers and stats, but please share them with me. Again, im refering to the PTR, since i do MT in BT and SW, and im trying to be prepared for the patch.
Oh, and about our nerf to stam, the problems lies in our base amount of health, and while we'll be on par with the other tanks im assuming at lvl 80, right now we are like 2500 behind similar geared warriors and ferals.