True but with the new disarm they may stand a chance........who am I kidding, your right please disregardOriginally Posted by doomguard
True but with the new disarm they may stand a chance........who am I kidding, your right please disregardOriginally Posted by doomguard
Exactly. Basically dot as much as you can, and fire those CDs, and then you become a heal/dispel bot.Originally Posted by syanid
In BGs or city raids, you can hide and pile up huge numbers.
In other world pvp, if you see something first, you can nuke them. On carebear server, they see you first and it's usually over since you won't jog around in your pvp set. If you happen to be flagged.
im doing fine as PVP as shadow seeing how all im doing in PVP is see a flagged allience out in the world and dot him up mind blast and wait for the dots to finish him off
World of Warcraft has just as much right and responsibility to create new lore just as the old Warcraft games and books did.
Fucking deal with it.
Originally Posted by Xip
Summary : i get carried by a rogue.
Good for you.
Yeh its sad. The SP is barely doing anything its all the rogue. Just shows how OP they really are .
As for those hopeing 3.1 will bring the salvation of the SP in pvp it wont. Nothing has changed on the PTR.
Its still world-of-melle-stun-anti-magic-burst-craft. And burst is somthing we have none of. All the changed in 3.1 do is delay our deaths by a few more seconds. Thank god for dual spec, Disp for pvp shadow for raiding.
Yeah, basically.
As was said above, in a Shadow Priest + Rogue team, the Rogue does 95% of the work.
The reason Shadow Priest + Rogue can't get high ratings like this is because the Rogue has to be amazing. And by amazing I mean in the first percentile of PvP Rogues. Unfortunately, most Rogues are complete crap at their class (and WoW in general), so finding one who can carry you is hard.
The disarm isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Feral Druids, Retadins, Rogues, Fury Warriors, and to some extent, Death Knights, still destroy us in PvP. Feral Druids even more than before.
The problem with Shadow Priest PVP (on live) is that we simply can't defend ourselves. We have one form of CC which is easily broken, and after that, we're done. We have two choices.
We can hope to god that our attacker sucks, or is undergeared and simply can't kill us in time, or that your partner comes to help.
Do you dare drop shadow form to spam heals? You could, but you'd waste all of your mana doing so.
Combine all of this with a healthy dose of being unable to move, or constantly being snared, and you're done.
My belief is that Shadow / Rogue PVP works so well, because everyone goes for the shadow priest FIRST out of instinct.
When it comes down to it all, the Shadow Priest just can't defend himself without an overpowered class nearby.
Come 3.1... i'll actually be able to take on someone stealing my mining node and feel confident in doing so. It's a big moment for us all.
Its that whole game not designed around 1v1. Crazy huh?Originally Posted by Direshadow
its that it doesnt feels good to be on the bottom of the food chain...Originally Posted by warboss
..: Character: Armory :..
..: Config: AMD PhenomII X4 955, 8GB DDR3 Ram, GF GTX460, 2.6TB HDD, Gentoo Linux :..
Translation - *Without my OP rogue friend to win everyting for me i suck and die to everything*
Sad state of affairs indeed.
umm dude.. Youv been carried to 2k by your rogue friend. You dont actually do anything in the arena, u stand there and watch while the rogue does everything.... So who is the one that sucks now?
I see that ur 3v3 has 1460 rateing... Another fact to prove the rogue is doing 100% of your 2v2 work. Do u /afk in the 2v2s?
Also from watching countless videos of matches over 2k rateings on the 2v2 bracket.
Teams appear to get shitter as you pass the 2k mark. Hunters useing crabs, palas that dont heal, mages that dont ice block. Its amazeing. Your just lucky + being carried, that is all.
Originally Posted by Xip
2k lolz.. been glad, old news. be proud of that carried 2k. Im not even proud of being a former glad because it means nothing.
Just the way you speak makes me unable to take you seriously. I don't even know what to say, im embarrassed for you i guess?
1.Guyz i don get u....tryin judging someone doesn t help anyone!
2.yy shadow is not totally viable in pvp.BUT it's not that bad as someone believes!i am currently shadow in 2v2 running team with retri paladin.stats 20k life(pw:fn),1850spelldmg,830 resi,16% crit.the thing is we re doing good enough.not 2k.but good.the only melee i see i have too much truble is cat druids and "some"rogues not all of them.The true problem is that:we re on focus aaaaaall the time.shadowpriest is good...but like ALL dps just can t take TOO much dmg...but if they not focus us....we hit like a truck!and after the patch we will be even better.so stop sayin it can t be done..if u like that spec play it.learn it.go pwn someone or 2... :P .
And the guy is right.if u can t do it,that doesn t meen it can t been happening!!!
Oh...and Xip gz in 2050!! gives me hopes
Have you got any idea how stupid you are or does it have to be drawn to you? Childish comments, attitude of a 9 year old and the fact that you don't realize that your rogue IS 90% of your team just make you look terrible. HF giving out l2p comments, it's like being lectured on sex by a virgin.Originally Posted by Xip
Dude got a point though. If its so easy to be taken by a rogue to >2000 ratings, then why doesn't every shadowpriest in the world have >2000 rating? Because it actually takes skill out of both partners? I never really tried shadow in arena with a rogue this season, but I cannot imagine that as the shadowpriest you only sit there and take a beating. There's LOSing, dispersing, fading, dotting, manaburning, etc. pp.Originally Posted by syanid
You know what is better than drinking a beer? Brewing your own beer. And then drinking it. And then... Drinking another beer. And then, punching somebody in the snout! That's what!
Shadow is worst class/spec for arena at the moment.
But if you are a REALLY good priest, you will 2k easy. (with rogue IS about only option)
You play it like healer/rogue
They focus you, rogue peels off you while you fear/get them to blow trinket, then blind/silence the healer.....If you can communticate you can win lots of matches this way.
Time your blind/silence with you're rogues 5pt kideny Mut/CBEvic and Innerfocus MindBlast/SW and they are dead
Only sure loss counter is double dps witha DK on it really, cuz you can't peel thru IBF.... or double undead
The ONLY time you are dps'ing with your rogue is when
1)they switch to rogue and he blow's CD's
2) MB/SW at the end of your CC train
3) you have enough distance to throw up dots
As for everyone saying blah blah rogue all the work blah blah if its so easy why doesn't every priest do it blah blah blah
This comp isn't for the nub that stands barely in LoS in BG's and dots everything, you have to play your priest well, knowing that you will be the focus 99% of the time. And you're rogue has to play very well to to put on pressure while keeping dps peeled off of you.
Communicate
you know
there are 2200 pally/dk's and 1300 pally/dk's with the same gear just fyi.
other than that, heal your rogue, dispell offensively and defensively
I think its not the worst...elemental/enhancement shamman are worst Imo!
Well of course you don't take the beating and stand there, but the rogue has to defend you and put a lot of pressure on the opponents. After priest fires fear and dispersion, there's nothing left for defense, which is where the teammate kicks in. The reason why shadowpriests don't have a million of ratings is because a mage is better teammate, many rogues are just morons, just like many shadowpriests are. If there's a team of 2 guys who communicate well, know how to play then there's no reason NOT to have 2k rating. I never said he doesn't have a point, but his AHAHHAHA comments are just so damn retarded I can't bring myself to take him seriously.Originally Posted by AetherMcLoud
The main problem is finding a rogue good enough to carry you upto that rateing. Iv tried, and beleive me some rogues have no idea what to do. The few iv tried with dont know were there blind button is, they dont sap.. they dont know were there COS buttons is, they simply run in and spam muti and evis.. And wonder why they fail lol..
Does your keyboard suck and your . gets stuck all the time or are you just a tard?