Prot and holy 3.1 Talents and glyphs

[sah303136]

I didnt see any posts on the front page( i have viewed some others a few days ago) so i was just wondering what specs you guys are going be doing when the patch hits and why.
Personally im gonna be doing http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767
main spec prot pve and http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767
For PvP Holy
Any criticism / ideas?
thx =)

[Anderthel]

Well for your PVE Prot you should take the 5 points points in Divinity since the new bosses will be hitting alot harder and more often. As a tank your healers will love you for it. Here is what I owuld use http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...0&version=9767

And I'm sure people will reply with some comments so take it with a grain of salt and use what works for your style of play.

I did miss the HotR. My bad. And yes you would most definitely put a point in there.

[noler]

have you post a prot build without HotR? omg :P atleast take the point in sanctity of battle in HotR :P

i will be using one like http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...0&version=9767

anyone know if the aura effect + divinity will stack?

[sah303136]

haha yea i guess its a bit late i did mean to grab that....

[xdwbx]

anyone know if the aura effect + divinity will stack?

Yes, heals done to you with your aura + divinity will be for 11% more. The raid will only have 6% increase healing. If for some reason you are healing yourself, I'm fairly certain it will be for 16% more through the two talents.

Personally im gonna be doing http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767
main spec prot pve

That spec is horrible imo. Basically go with what the others said, though I personally wont be taking divinity unless I end up needing it. My healers are usually very good, so I dont really see this happening, but in the meantime, it allows me to go further into the ret tree for more threat talents.

I'll probably be using this

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...1&version=9767

I want to see how badly i need the spiritual attunement talent, so I may drop down to 1 pt as so many other have been doing. Even though others bring the same debuff as JotJ, i still like to have it.

[Ryethos]

No one posted these yet?

Standard 3.1 raid builds I'll be using (criticism encouraged):
Protection (Main spec):
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...1&version=9767


Holy (2nd spec):
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...1&version=9767

[Evereghalo]

My Skeleton Prot build will be this:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...1&version=9767

This leaves 1pt.

I can put 1pt in Spiritual Atunment if need be,

or I more point in a damage ability. Any thoughts whats better?

Otherwise thoughts?

3pts in crusade, 2pts in Sanctity of Battle, or vise versa

Qualifications

1) My guild does run 2 ret paladins that do raid. And the holy pally has heart of crusader
2) We have 2 DKs, 1 is Frost/unholy with Imp Icy Talons. (So i will not be getting judgements of the just)
3) I am my guilds main tank.


Holy I will pvp so:

preliminary is

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...2&version=9767

but as for holy, I have never speced into it, so I will see what it is like come dual spec.

[Arrington]

I'm not sure about most of you but as prot I mainly just go PVE here's what my spec is going to look like - http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

[Evereghalo]

I'm not sure about most of you but as prot I mainly just go PVE here's what my spec is going to look like - http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

Thats fine if your always offtanking,

but if your going to most usually be the boss tank, or the tank needed for highest threat, etc. I would drop the divine sacrifice/divine guardian.

Because I am pretty sure they dont stack with a Holy Paladin.

[SyncMaster]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

Here you go, TPS specc + glyphs

[arel00]

Personally, my paladin is gonna have this spec:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

As for offspec Holy, I'l probably use:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

[Minarva]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

Here you go, TPS specc + glyphs

This is actually not a TPS spec :P Crusade outperforms Sanctity and personally I feel the 2nd point in judgement is more wasted than 1 point in benediction, you simply don't use it more than every 9 apart from on trash. I'd also take our new 11 pointer and DG, although not particularly strong (I wouldn't use the new SS hardly at all) the cooldown is quite nice for raid damage we will experience in Ulduar. Divinity is for the most part crap, the majority of healing we recieve is overhealing, and well if you are falling below for a long enough period that you can get SOME heals in (but not enough) your healers need to step up a little (i.e it is considerably weaker than AD was in Sunwell). Finally, for a TPS spec, you gotta be maxing conviction :P Speed isn't increasing your threat...^^

[soulofsin]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

Dunno, looks okay...

Glyph of Divine Plea to give us an extra 3% mitigation is nice...

I was thinking maybe dropping one point that I have in pursuit of justice and putting it into Spiritual Attun.
to give it 2 points instead of just 1.

[Uther.the.Lightbringer]

Long time reader... First time Poster
Anyway, I have two different Prot specs I'll be using for Ulduar. One will be for MTing/Max Survivability and the other will be for AoE tanking and Tps.

The MT Spec, I always have a Ret paladin who shows up to every raid so no Heart of the Crusader.. and I'm speccing into Divine Sacrifice and Divine Gaurdian for the Imp SS because I dont usually have a Holy Paladin in my Achievement Group for 10 mans and for 25 mans we dont always have one on... which might change in Ulduar. I dont know how Often I'll use the Divine Sacrifice unless I'm Tanking an Add on Iron Council early in 3.1 and it dies before another Tank's Add. For Obvious reasons I wont use it when I'm MTing. Glyph of AS for a Threat lead on a Pull or for some reason I'm not in melee range of the Boss, and PoJ for Mobility when MTing if Needed.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

The Tps Spec, Same reasons for not taking Heart of the Crusader and only one Point in SA for now because BoS means no Mana Issues when AoE Tanking and the Infinite Divine Plea should also mean no Mana problems. No JotJ because I'm probably tanking more than 3 Mobs and there either might be a War thunderclapping or a DK doing Icy Touch + Pestilence. Conviction, Sancity of Battle, and Crusade are nice Threat talents and I'm not Sacrificing huge Mitigation for them when you think about how Pre 3.1 Specs were where we couldnt Spec into them with out Sacrificing those Mitigation Talents.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...6&version=9767

Feel Free to Criticize my Specs and Glyphs because I'm waiting for Realms to go up atm.

[Kistra]

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tAbuMGsIufzxsbx0h

Glyphs:

-Seal of Vengeance
-Divine Plea
-Avenger's Shield (or HoTR, still undecided)

[Pilto]

This is the spec that I will be running as soon as I'm able to log on and respec.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...1&version=9767


It's just a personal preference of mine to take PoJ. 2 more crit isn't dire at this point for more threat, just dps.

I did a little number crunching and decided not to go with Divine Sacrifice and Divine Gaurdian. The only reason I would take those talents is because of the increased Sacred Shield. After looking at it's benefit, our Holy Paladin also puts SS on me during battle and since his absorbs more damage than mine with the buffs.