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  1. #1

    Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Pretty simple: Which one do you think is better in the following scenario:

    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45165 Worldcarver reduces crit to 32% and caps expertise.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40384 Betrayer of Humanity boosts the crit upto 35% unbuffed but leaves expertise at 16.

    So basically 10 Expertise vs 3% Crit. What will you choose?

    Edit: Might I add, atleast 90 attackpower unbuffed and the Str on the carver gains bonus from kings.

    Rawr definately says Worldcarver, but I want some live opinions.

  2. #2

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    you also gain 50+ ap with worldcarver + higher damage

    and you check rawr with full raid buffs or not?

  3. #3

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Is this a joke?

    Worldcarver is in every way better.

  4. #4

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Worldcarver without a doubt.

  5. #5

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    My opinion is that you have to be joking. Worldcarver is clearly superior.
    Looking for a great guild on Tichondrius?

  6. #6

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamson
    Is this a joke?

    Worldcarver is in every way better.
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightning's+Blade&n=Hohenhe%C3%ADm
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightning's+Blade&n=Caim
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottK15
    skill>penis/vag

  7. #7

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyneside
    My opinion is that you have to be joking. Worldcarver is clearly superior.
    I was actually quite hesitant to lose the 3% crit but not anymore and yes Rawr definately puts it way up in the upgrade list (right below Voldrethar) actually.

  8. #8

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    world

    besides we crit alot already *im at like 24% in my crap gear and i crit alot*
    try for world
    no im not always gonna put in a lot of thought when i post
    and not all my posts are serious/true

  9. #9

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    It's not just "10 expertise vs 3% crit". Worldcarver also gives more DPS. (10 more, it's a lot)

  10. #10

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    ya sorry fail palladin's .. its a DK tanking weapon .. get in line IMO ( i already have mine )

  11. #11

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Omen321
    ya sorry fail palladin's .. its a DK tanking weapon .. get in line IMO ( i already have mine )
    screenshot+ armory!!!!
    damn Dks lol jk
    no im not always gonna put in a lot of thought when i post
    and not all my posts are serious/true

  12. #12

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ng&n=%C3%93men im in th emiddle of 10man so im not SSing

  13. #13

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by archform
    world

    besides we crit alot already *im at like 24% in my crap gear and i crit alot*
    try for world
    Well I have both. Equipping WC gave me an addition ~150 DPS overall even though I lost 3% crit. This is raidbuffed. Just tested on the dummies.

  14. #14

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    As far as I know, higher DPS on your weapon has a huge impact on your DPS, since crusader strike, judgement, seal procs and divine storm scales from it.

    That and more AP total = instant win, no question, no discussion.

  15. #15

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    You might as well aim for Earthshaper (Drops from 25 Yogg-Saron normal mode). With a Rawr setup I used you're going to be expertise capped + hit capped without Worldcarver. Though some of it might require hard mode loot.

    If you dont have to spend your entire DKP to get Worldcarver, I guess it's worth using until you have the other items to fill out the expertise you lose from switching Worldcarver to Earthshaper.

  16. #16

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker
    You might as well aim for Earthshaper (Drops from 25 Yogg-Saron normal mode). With a Rawr setup I used you're going to be expertise capped + hit capped without Worldcarver. Though some of it might require hard mode loot.

    If you dont have to spend your entire DKP to get Worldcarver, I guess it's worth using until you have the other items to fill out the expertise you lose from switching Worldcarver to Earthshaper.
    ive yet to get find a guild that uses DKP....
    no im not always gonna put in a lot of thought when i post
    and not all my posts are serious/true

  17. #17

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by archform
    ive yet to get find a guild that uses DKP....

    yet to get find ?

    anyway - if you havent found a guild with dkp yet, I feel sorry for you.
    Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)

    I'm honestly frightened by what is taking place on the BlizzCon forum.

  18. #18

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Gzilia

    yet to get find ?

    anyway - if you havent found a guild with dkp yet, I feel sorry for you.
    why DKP sounds kinda annoying*never done it*
    no im not always gonna put in a lot of thought when i post
    and not all my posts are serious/true

  19. #19

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by archform
    why DKP sounds kinda annoying*never done it*
    Soo..

    You never raided pre wotlk?
    Or did everyone just /roll for laughters?
    I can understand the hussle of DKP in naxx because well, its more work to register DKP than it is to clear it.
    Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)

    I'm honestly frightened by what is taking place on the BlizzCon forum.

  20. #20

    Re: Worldcarver VS Betrayer of Humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Gzilia
    Soo..

    You never raided pre wotlk?
    Or did everyone just /roll for laughters?
    I can understand the hussle of DKP in naxx because well, its more work to register DKP than it is to clear it.
    in vanilla and tbc i was going thru a alt phase
    made many many many characters and deleted many also
    no im not always gonna put in a lot of thought when i post
    and not all my posts are serious/true

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