Building a new computer

[Nanite]

I cant add combo's to the wishlist but theirs a combo that makes it worth getting that origional mobo. aside from that i just changed the cooling to what you said.

[Mr_BoMyJangles]

Ah, thanks for bringing that to my attention. If you get that deal, your wrong. <--- period, no room for discussion.

Thats a 32 bit over priced over cluttered operating system. With that, your machine is limited to 4 gb of total memory allocation, 1gb is taken by the GFX card, meaning you pay for 4 gb, but you get 3, and its even less after your system takes its resources. Vista ultimate is over priced, takes up more system resources for things you dont need (I dont know much about what else besides wow your using this computer for, but I know YOU dont need it, if your asking for tech advice on a wow forum)

Windows 7 RC is out, its 64 bit, and its free for a year

Edit: to clarify, im bashing Ultimate, not vista, home premium 64 bit is a more logical choice Home premium 64 bitAlso noticed, yah, that is a pretty attractive deal, but you dont want a 32 bit operating system, you NEED a 64 bit for that rig

Also, you may need a ps/2 to be able to configure BIOS and install windows, you would jsut need it the first time, not everytime, ps/2 is an interface, its that purple plug

[Nanite]

Ah, thanks for bringing that to my attention. If you get that deal, your wrong. <--- period, no room for discussion.

Thats a 32 bit over priced over cluttered operating system. With that, your machine is limited to 4 gb of total memory allocation, 1gb is taken by the GFX card, meaning you pay for 4 gb, but you get 3, and its even less after your system takes its resources. Vista ultimate is over priced, takes up more system resources for things you dont need (I dont know much about what else besides wow your using this computer for, but I know YOU dont need it, if your asking for tech advice on a wow forum)

Windows 7 RC is out, its 64 bit, and its free for a year

heh ty for all the help, i made a few downgrades and updates you have been a great help.

[getefix]

- I have that ram and I've had no problems with it so far.

- Def go for the i7 over the Phenom, i7 is far ahead of anything AMD has to offer. Tom's Hardware says:

For the gamer or multimedia aficionado with a mind to performance, Intel’s Core i7 920 overclocked to 3.8 GHz simply delivers the most compelling experience. The ~$250 hardware price premium is the cost of entry over AMD’s solution, and we think it’s worth paying. AMD is planning its own shift to DDR3 in the first half of 2009, and less-expensive X58 boards are trickling out (the cheapest right now being Gigabyte's $210 EX58-UD3R), so the cost-difference will continue getting smaller.

If you’re instead buying for a more productivity-oriented purpose, the Phenom II makes sense. After all, it’s able to handle every task nearly as well as i7 does (both platforms overclocked, of course), it drops into existing AM2+ motherboards, it costs less, and in a majority of situations, will use substantially less power—even highly-tuned, as we've done here. We didn’t have as much luck overclocking the Phenom II as we expected, but the chip is still a notable improvement over AMD’s 65 nm Phenom series.

- Razer mice are amazing provided you like the claw method of mice (grasping the mouse with your fingertips instead of hugging it with your palm). Make sure you have a gel pad for your hand or your wrist will get quite sore.

- I agree with going for a TB on the HD. 640gb fills up faster than you expect, especially if you ever plan on having a 2nd OS or if you use a lot of torrents.

- You said you want a powerful gaming computer. I hope it's to play more than just WoW because you really don't need a super high end video card to max out WoW. You can max out graphics with a 9800 GT which will cost you about $120

- I liked ATI back in the day but after the blast furnace known as the 9800 Pro I've gone to NVidia. I see a lot of games with NVidia logos on them so I can only assume that they are primarily designed to work on NVidia cards. Using an NVidia card also gives you the opportunity to buy this (which does work on Warcraft and apparently is AMAZING).

http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce...sion_Main.html

The video card you have chosen does look like a really good buy, however, so if you're set on ATI then I would go with it.

[getefix]

Also, you may need a ps/2 to be able to configure BIOS and install windows, you would jsut need it the first time, not everytime, ps/2 is an interface, its that purple plug

i don't know if that depends on the mobo or not but i don't have a problem with my USB keyboard or my USB mouse. I would expect anything remotely recent would expect you to use USB devices instead of ps/2

[Nanite]

Naw WoW runs well on anything the main reason im getting this is for TF2 and Crysis. Also i plan on droping wow for Aion/D3 once they come out which i expect will require a strong system to maintain 70+FPS

[Mr_BoMyJangles]

For the gamer or multimedia aficionado with a mind to performance Doesnt care about price, yes everyone knows intel owns the top end, but thats splurging an extra 300 dollars to get it

[Mr_BoMyJangles]

i don't know if that depends on the mobo or not but i don't have a problem with my USB keyboard or my USB mouse. I would expect anything remotely recent would expect you to use USB devices instead of ps/2

Not all things recent support it right out of the box, Im just letting him know

Naw WoW runs well on anything the main reason im getting this is for TF2 and Crysis. Also i plan on droping wow for Aion/D3 once they come out which i expect will require a strong system to maintain 70+FPS

The TRAINED human eye cant notice a diffrence on things that go past 60 fps, the average human eye cant notice a diffrence of anything over 30 fps, movies play at 24 fps, 70 fps isnt needed, its bragging rights

[getefix]

For the gamer or multimedia aficionado with a mind to performance Doesnt care about price, yes everyone knows intel owns the top end, but thats splurging an extra 300 dollars to get it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

not a huge price difference. i7 is a little slower on clock speeds but they have insane OC'ing abilities. 33% more L3 cache but 50% less L2 cache. I guess that's the price for a true Quad Core.

[acdcpwns]

Yo MMO, i was thinking about building my first computer and was looking to put togather a powerful gaming PC.
I lurked around some tech forums and got:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=10071005

Does anyone see any flaws in this system or any thing i forgot?
PS: Yes I would rather a Phenon 2 than an i7.

EDIT: Fixed the link

idk i think you should go nvidia, get a 260 gtx or a 295 and a core i7, change the freaking PSU, u can find more powerful cheaper power supplies. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341019

[Mr_BoMyJangles]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

not a huge price difference. i7 is a little slower on clock speeds but they have insane OC'ing abilities. 33% more L3 cache but 50% less L2 cache. I guess that's the price for a true Quad Core.

The overall setup is more expensive

i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131359 Mobo 250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202 CPU 280
529 total

AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131323 mobo 120, comparable features
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291 CPU 150 (dont compare top of the line vs bottom of the barrel when pricing, if you wanna play "lets check the xtreme price!" I think i7 would win at 1k"
269 total, yah got me, 260 price difference. AMD owns the mid market, intel owns the top market, please dont go fanboi on me

[critfury]

Here are my thoughts...if you're going to spend that much on a case, I'd get the Antec 900 b/c I own one so I can say it keeps everything cool and quiet and it's cheaper.

The video card will work, but you can go cheaper and still get the same results. WoW doesn't take much to run

Your memory is fine, but Corsair is usually picked as the "quality" product. Costs about the same.

Quad cores are sweet lol, but you really only need a fast dual core. Intel may have an edge, but AMD's price/performance can not be beat.

My friend has that Razor mouse and I find it uncomfortable. There are other mice out there that promote the same features and are half as much and way more comfortable.

I use the all copper 120mm Zalman model. It's super quiet and keeps it nice and cool. Costs around 45ish dollars.

The motherboard is fine, just make sure it's specs match all of the other hardware.

I own a 22inch Hanns monitor for half as much as that 24inch one. It has plenty of view space.

Hope this helps lol, gl

[Mr_BoMyJangles]

idk i think you should go nvidia, get a 260 gtx or a 295 and a core i7, change the freaking PSU, u can find more powerful cheaper power supplies. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341019

Did you link a quad rail PSU for someone using a single GFX card? and watts isnt the be all end all of PSU's, theres alot more to it then that. PSU's are the last thing you want to try to go cheap on.

Edit: yah, corsair makes fine RAM, but they aren't undisputed, gskill makes a serious contender, and im quite fond of mushkin myself