Moonkin model change idea.

[Verth]

I have been playing as druid for quite a long time, and i can say that for me moonkin was only here for the sake of making fun of ther dance and their weight.

I know many people might flame me for this, but what made blizzard pick this as our caster shapeshift?

In my opinion, new colourings (and a slight model changes, the bear closes its mouth now and the cat's ears are moving less) is not what moonkings need when their time comes for the new form to show up as blizzard has mentioned.

Let's change moonkin form to this:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Keeper_of_the_Grove
And dryad for the females.

Maybe add some buffs along with it, since balance needs some help in PVP. Even critters can beat balance as it is.

What does the community think?
Do you prefer our current lazor chicken, or does a keeper look more appealing?
Try keeping this civilised as always.

[DaShaman]

I was about to say "What do keepers of the Grove and Dryads have to do with the Balance tree?" Then I thought to myself "What do Moonkins have to do with the Balance tree?" I don't know, it wouldn't seem to fit in my opinion. I do agree they need a form update, but maybe not a model change.

[Verth]

In w3, keepers of the grove could cast roots, trees and thorns(at least in an aura).
They connect perfectly. Lazorchickens on the other hand... Don't.
I have never seen a caster moonkin as an NPC, apart from one or two casting moonfire, and after lvl 20, i never met a moonkin again.

It's just an old forgotten idea. I don't know what blizzard was thinking, but they should realy change it.

[wacka]

moonkinz live in water dident u know? they will show up in next expensaion 8)

[DaShaman]

Well the evidence from WC3 sounds logical enough, and sounds familiar now that I think about it...Go post on the official forums maybe? Your unlikely to get a reply, but its worth a shot.

Obviously you aren't getting much useful feedback here.

[bbr]

It's a moonkin, something COMPLETELY different from the cenaris.

[Shonubi]

got a better idea! Guardian form! u can dps spell and heal...but u use more nature magic than arcane! and u get new spells!and a pet! a treant or something!
for horde we got peacekeeper... a horde -keeper of the grove....more like centaurs

[Durenek]

I heer u liek moonkinz?

[FourofaKind]

I have never seen a caster moonkin as an NPC, apart from one or two casting moonfire, and after lvl 20, i never met a moonkin again.

Aberrant Owlbeast 8 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Berserk Owlbeast 58 - 59 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Chieftain Oomooroo 11 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Contaminated Wildkin 15 - 16 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Crazed Owlbeast 56 - 57 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Crazed Wildkin 9 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Crazed Wildkin Corpse Uncategorized
Deranged Owlbeast 8 - 9 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Guardian of Elune 60 Winterspring A Humanoid
Infected Wildkin 14 - 15 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Irradiated Wildkin 14 - 16 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Lunaclaw 12 Darkshore, The Barrens A H Humanoid
Lunaclaw Spirit 13 Darkshore, The Barrens A H Humanoid
Marauding Owlbeast 46 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Moonkin 12 - 13 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Moonkin Oracle 13 - 14 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Moontouched Owlbeast 57 - 58 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Mutated Owlkin 3 - 4 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Nestlewood Owlkin 3 - 4 Azuremyst Isle A Humanoid
Primitive Owlbeast 44 - 45 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Ragged Owlbeast 53 - 55 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Raging Moonkin 12 - 14 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Raging Owlbeast 54 - 56 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Raving Owlbeast 9 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Razortalon 44
Rare The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Savage Owlbeast 46 - 47 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Vicious Owlbeast 41 - 43 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Young Moonkin 11 - 12 Darkshore A H Humanoid

all the different moonkin.

I assume you havent done the "Wildkin of elune" quest line and/or no nothing of wow lore
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=4902

While Children of Cenarious and Dryads are quite powerful druids (dryads being more towards Restoration, keepers being more balance, hell Illidan and Malfurion were trained by Cenarius, an Ancient) owlkin are more on the stricter side of Balance as they are literally the "Pets of Elune" (Who is the moon goddess, incase you didnt know, thus the name, Moonkin) meaning they tend to be more towards what the balance tree is going for, where as Ancients (Dryads and Keepers) are just generally drastically OP Druids (not so much in the feral tree however).

Moonkin makes perfect sense according to lore, the reason you don't encounter many NPC X-Kin casting balance spells is because they are typically tainted or enraged, and as such have lost their "balence" and instead focus on beating crap up with their fists (thus the newish talent, Owlkin Frenzy and how it used to only apply to Physical Damage.).

Hope this helps.

[Verth]

Aberrant Owlbeast 8 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Berserk Owlbeast 58 - 59 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Chieftain Oomooroo 11 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Contaminated Wildkin 15 - 16 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Crazed Owlbeast 56 - 57 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Crazed Wildkin 9 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Crazed Wildkin Corpse Uncategorized
Deranged Owlbeast 8 - 9 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Guardian of Elune 60 Winterspring A Humanoid
Infected Wildkin 14 - 15 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Irradiated Wildkin 14 - 16 Bloodmyst Isle A H Humanoid
Lunaclaw 12 Darkshore, The Barrens A H Humanoid
Lunaclaw Spirit 13 Darkshore, The Barrens A H Humanoid
Marauding Owlbeast 46 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Moonkin 12 - 13 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Moonkin Oracle 13 - 14 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Moontouched Owlbeast 57 - 58 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Mutated Owlkin 3 - 4 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Nestlewood Owlkin 3 - 4 Azuremyst Isle A Humanoid
Primitive Owlbeast 44 - 45 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Ragged Owlbeast 53 - 55 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Raging Moonkin 12 - 14 Darkshore A H Humanoid
Raging Owlbeast 54 - 56 Winterspring A H Humanoid
Raving Owlbeast 9 - 10 Azuremyst Isle A H Humanoid
Razortalon 44
Rare The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Savage Owlbeast 46 - 47 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Vicious Owlbeast 41 - 43 The Hinterlands A H Humanoid
Young Moonkin 11 - 12 Darkshore A H Humanoid

all the different moonkin.

I assume you havent done the "Wildkin of elune" quest line and/or no nothing of wow lore
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=4902

While Children of Cenarious and Dryads are quite powerful druids (dryads being more towards Restoration, keepers being more balance, hell Illidan and Malfurion were trained by Cenarius, an Ancient) owlkin are more on the stricter side of Balance as they are literally the "Pets of Elune" (Who is the moon goddess, incase you didnt know, thus the name, Moonkin) meaning they tend to be more towards what the balance tree is going for, where as Ancients (Dryads and Keepers) are just generally drastically OP Druids (not so much in the feral tree however).

Moonkin makes perfect sense according to lore, the reason you don't encounter many NPC X-Kin casting balance spells is because they are typically tainted or enraged, and as such have lost their "balence" and instead focus on beating crap up with their fists (thus the newish talent, Owlkin Frenzy and how it used to only apply to Physical Damage.).

Hope this helps.

Ok, you almost owned me there, and i bow to your search-copy-paste abilities.

Still, you can't argue with the fact that moonkins are simply what they are: lazor chickens, and keepers way, way cooler than moonkins. After all, why should i be a pet, and not a dominant caster like a mage, or even better - to compare hybrids to hybrids - like a shaman?
Shamans always used to be leaders and so did Keepers(in whatever society they have)

In W3, druids of the talon would cast spells(balance) mainly spells that concern wind, but their idea was reduced at first to nothing and then to flight form.
Druids of the claw would then be bears - completely following the lore and able to cast
minor heals - rejuvenation in particular.

Then the core balance druid would be the keeper. It's obvious that moonkins had never a good relation with magic, but blizzard just bent the lore and added a quest to ensure the justification.

In vanilia, people would pick druids just to be keepers instantly, since W3 had a huge affection on wow fans.
It's been almost 5 years now, people know the races, it's not gonna be ground breaking.

[agonyzt]

I have been playing as druid for quite a long time, and i can say that for me moonkin was only here for the sake of making fun of ther dance and their weight.

I know many people might flame me for this, but what made blizzard pick this as our caster shapeshift?

In my opinion, new colourings (and a slight model changes, the bear closes its mouth now and the cat's ears are moving less) is not what moonkings need when their time comes for the new form to show up as blizzard has mentioned.

Let's change moonkin form to this:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Keeper_of_the_Grove
And dryad for the females.

Maybe add some buffs along with it, since balance needs some help in PVP. Even critters can beat balance as it is.

What does the community think?
Do you prefer our current lazor chicken, or does a keeper look more appealing?
Try keeping this civilised as always.

No.

[FourofaKind]

Still, you can't argue with the fact that moonkins are simply what they are: lazor chickens, and keepers way, way cooler than moonkins. After all, why should i be a pet, and not a dominant caster like a mage, or even better - to compare hybrids to hybrids - like a shaman?
Shamans always used to be leaders and so did Keepers(in whatever society they have)

Being the pet of a god is a bit more significant then say, a random tree, cat or bear. Keepers are for the most part ancients/demigods, that is why they should not be the balence form, it's bad enough we are dramatically overpowered, if they gave us the sprites* (continued in later point) of demigods/etc the amount of complaints from other classes would be overwhelming.

In W3, druids of the talon would cast spells(balance) mainly spells that concern wind, but their idea was reduced at first to nothing and then to flight form.
Druids of the claw would then be bears - completely following the lore and able to cast
minor heals - rejuvenation in particular.

If thats the case, then should we have raven form instead? Moonkin at least lets us resemble humanoid form in some sense, similar to treeform(thus why they cast).

Then the core balance druid would be the keeper. It's obvious that moonkins had never a good relation with magic, but blizzard just bent the lore and added a quest to ensure the justification.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Wildkin
http://www.wowwiki.com/Elune

moonkin not having a relationship with magic makes zero sense. They are a race of druidic beings that were created out of magic by the moon goddess to act as her pets/gaurdians of sacred grounds. Keepers however are moreso the offspring of, the offspring of, the offspring of a god (more magical) and an ancient (who, before becoming Elunes lover, is speculated to have minimal magical potential).

In vanilia, people would pick druids just to be keepers instantly, since W3 had a huge affection on wow fans.
It's been almost 5 years now, people know the races, it's not gonna be ground breaking.

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You said it yourself, "W3 Had a huge affection(?) on wow fans." Not all those players are druids, and to give druids this major part of warcraft lore, would be aestetically unbalanced to the other classes... I know that sounds dumb, but it actually makes sense when you think about it.

[georgevonfranken]

your quoting skills are amazing fourofakind

[FourofaKind]

your quoting skills are amazing fourofakind

Thank you gud sir, I've lurked many a BB before.

[beanfinnalblow]

i always thought moonkin fit i just think it needs a new sleek design maybe not big fat chickens anymore somthing like thinner moonkins cuz u are a druid version of it druid cats/bears look nothing like bears and cats out ion the world but the moonkin graphic is almost cut and paste the same for everyone.
maybe look like a cross between a person and a moonkin like ur still ur race but u got like feathers up and down ur arms and legs and some unique druid like armor

[Treebrother]

I would be happy with some skin changes, like the white and blue moonkin in Azuremyst.

What would be cool is for an option for moonkin to change treants into one of those huge forest protectors with the lanterns from the shoulders if we spec into it deep enough.

[Marithas]

now how the hell could you make a lore background to turn yourself into a half night elf half goat caster

[yor7]

No,Just No.

Keepers of the Grove are a different race,and as is stated in the wiki article theres no idea why Malfurion was tagged under that class in Warcraft3.Be happy with your Moonkin form.

[Ufalah]

All druid forms are terrible because they in no way reflect your character. Shadowform priests still get to see their sweet gear whereas I have to shift out between pulls to admire the ninja-druid my 7.5 makes me.

I hate my forms.

WTB forms that reflect gear.

[Shuckle]

okay here u go, why not be the favored creature of the one true god of azeroth.