Need help with new Ret Pally 80 Talens/Glyph/Rotation

[Jetster735180]

Hi, I had done a search on this part of the forums, and all i can find is stuff concerning 3.2, and not 3.1 (3.1.2).

My main is a feral druid, and I know everything there is to know about feral, but when it comes to my Alt Pally, I am clueless. I started my Pally before Wrath, when 3.0.2 came out and Ret Pallies were the OP class. I had level as ret all the way to 80, and then switched to Holy, since my guild needed healers for 25 man.

I don't usually play on my pally since questing/daillies take a lot more time on my pally then on my druid, but since my druid is exalted with all Wrath factions, I want to start doing daillies on my pally. So yesterday, I sent my pally 6k gold, so he now has Artisan Riding Skill and Dual-Talent.

My question is for Ret, what is a good talent tree for solo/5mans ? What are the best glyphs ? and whats the best rotation for boss fights in 5 man ?

P.S. I don't think ill have the time to raid with him and if I do, I usually go has healz.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Sudden+Death

Thanks for any advice you can give.

[Crovax]

Glyphs : Consecration / Judgement / Exorcism (PvE)
Rotation: HoW>CS>J>DS>Cons>Exo (On moving bosses, switch exo<>cons).
Stats: Hit until 8%>Exp until 26(6.5%)>Str>Crit>Ap>Agi>Rest
Spec: Something like that http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZEuz...uhdIfsu:oa0m0c


Edit:
Fixed for errors.

[Freshness]

Glyphs : Consecration / Judgement / Exorcism (PvE)
Rotation: HoW>CS>J>DS>Cons>Exo (On moving bosses, switch exo<>cons).
Stats: Hit until 8%>Exp until 25(6.5%)>Str>Crit>Ap>Agi>Rest
Spec: Something like that http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZEuz...uhdIfsu:oa0m0c

CS>HoW imo. Get the libram up to get full effect of HoW. Thats if u were able to get it or not.

[EzriEU]

Glyphs : Consecration / Judgement / Exorcism (PvE)
Rotation: HoW>CS>J>DS>Cons>Exo (On moving bosses, switch exo<>cons).
Stats: Hit until 8%>Exp until 25(6.5%)>Str>Crit>Ap>Agi>Rest
Spec: Something like that http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZEuz...uhdIfsu:oa0m0c

This. Only that Exp should be 26.

And please, do all Paladins a favour: Since you're one of the "3.0 rerollers" - don't embarrass us as most of that kind do. Try things, be content when good players beat you, don't brag if you steamroll bad ones.

[Erinol]

no seals of the pure over stoicism, divine guardian, divine sacrifice, etc?

i've got this http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sVZE0...uhdIfsu:oa0m0c
with 1 point floating in whatever. (guardian's favor? stoicism? vindication?)

[Crovax]

no seals of the pure over stoicism, divine guardian, divine sacrifice, etc?

We don't use SoV yet. The 0/17/54 spec will change however once 3.2 is released.
And no, HoW should be used first once its available due to its hight crit chance. And since the Arena Libram is 10 secs active, you'll have plenty of time to refresh it even with HoW>CS.

[Erinol]

oh, sorry, when i read the thread title i assumed he was asking about 3.2 xD

[Soulbender]

Since you're aiming 5man heroics, i'd say i'd value STR over expertise.

the rest is good advice until 3.2

Look at elitist jerks (EJ) paladin forum for detailed 3.1 dps thread.

[Jetster735180]

Well, in all the specs you've sent me, no one uses Seal of Command, I remember when I was leveling, I had that on all the time, what should I use now ? Or does it depend on what i need ? Seal of Wisdom if I need mana , but what do I use for pure 5 man ?

Just to make sure, these are what the abbreviations mean ?
HoW = Hammer of Wrath ?
CS = Crusader Strike
J = Judgement ( all types )
DS = Divine Storm
Cons = Consecration
Exo = Exorcism

[BDF]

Well, in all the specs you've sent me, no one uses Seal of Command, I remember when I was leveling, I had that on all the time, what should I use now ? Or does it depend on what i need ? Seal of Wisdom if I need mana , but what do I use for pure 5 man ?

Just to make sure, these are what the abbreviations mean ?
HoW = Hammer of Wrath ?
CS = Crusader Strike
J = Judgement ( all types )
DS = Divine Storm
Cons = Consecration
Exo = Exorcism

Seal of Blood, always
Switch up what judgment you cast if you need more mana or health.
And those abbreviations you listed are correct.

[Jetster735180]

Seal of Blood, always
Switch up what judgment you cast if you need more mana or health.
And those abbreviations you listed are correct.

Thank you all.