Goblins and Worgens are the new races of the Expansion

[Sirsimeon]

aye, and not to mention some bunch of plants in the sunwell patch (which was supposed to be last patch before WotLK) but upon people pointing this out, blizzard released a new patch removing these plants, and stating that it was a 'misstake' and they were not supposed to be in-game

[Sirsimeon]

I doubt any one is going to get fired or even scolded for putting Halloween masks into a data file.

"NOW THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WILL WEAR FOR HALLOWEEN, YOU'VE BLOODY RUINED EVERYTHING, IM FIRING THIS ENTIRE DEPARTMENT; NO! ACTUALLY, CANCEL THE ENTIRE BLIZZARD CORPORATIONS EUROPEAN BRANCH. Fire....Bloody.... EVERYONE."

[Firemane]

Ladies, ladies you are all missing the obvious solution here:

There wont be any goblin warlocks or worgen druids. They wont be able to choose any classes except one.

They will of cource each get a hero class! Why would blizzard make an effort to create 4 new zones JUST for leveling alts from 1-20? It dosent make sense at all, especially when they have been making leveling overall alot faster (i.e. making that "problem" go away). And do you think blizzard will just STOP with hero classes after death knights? come on! Blizzard ALWAYS escalates things! Always top the last thing they did!

They will get a hero class each, and at the end of their level up zone, they will be able to choose horde or alliance! (this could also be done at the character creation screen ofc, but less cool)

Goblins would probably be something pirate-y with ranged aswell as melee trees. Worgen i have no idea, probably something healer. But a melee tree is guaranteed (maybe unarmed/claws combat or something)

[Sirsimeon]

Ladies, ladies you are all missing the obvious solution here:

There wont be any goblin warlocks or worgen druids. They wont be able to choose any classes except one.

They will of cource each get a hero class! Why would blizzard make an effort to create 4 new zones JUST for leveling alts from 1-20? It dosent make sense at all, especially when they have been making leveling overall alot faster (i.e. making that "problem" go away). And do you think blizzard will just STOP with hero classes after death knights? come on! Blizzard ALWAYS escalates things! Always top the last thing they did!

They will get a hero class each, and at the end of their level up zone, they will be able to choose horde or alliance! (this could also be done at the character creation screen ofc, but less cool)

Goblins would probably be something pirate-y with ranged aswell as melee trees. Worgen i have no idea, probably something healer. But a melee tree is guaranteed (maybe unarmed/claws combat or something)

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

...blizzard already stated that they wont go further than as creating the death knight class. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Teestala]

Ladies, ladies you are all missing the obvious solution here:

There wont be any goblin warlocks or worgen druids. They wont be able to choose any classes except one.

They will of cource each get a hero class! Why would blizzard make an effort to create 4 new zones JUST for leveling alts from 1-20? It dosent make sense at all, especially when they have been making leveling overall alot faster (i.e. making that "problem" go away). And do you think blizzard will just STOP with hero classes after death knights? come on! Blizzard ALWAYS escalates things! Always top the last thing they did!

They will get a hero class each, and at the end of their level up zone, they will be able to choose horde or alliance! (this could also be done at the character creation screen ofc, but less cool)

Goblins would probably be something pirate-y with ranged aswell as melee trees. Worgen i have no idea, probably something healer. But a melee tree is guaranteed (maybe unarmed/claws combat or something)

goblin corsairs........................................
yeah no
worgen that fight with claws.... HMM THERE TOTALLY ISNT A CLASS THAT ALREADY USES FIST WEPS AND HEALS AMIRITE?

[Deleted]

Why would blizzard make an effort to create 4 new zones JUST for leveling alts from 1-20?

Why did they do it in BC? Several reasons... they wanted to give a larger variety of classes and find suitable classes to make shaman and paladin available ti the opposing faction... besides they perfectly fit in the setting

And do you think blizzard will just STOP with hero classes after death knights?

No they even said there will be more hero classes which I think is cool, but they said we shouldnt expect one every Xpac
But there most certainly will be new classes and races introduced in comming Addons

And I really wonder why you can say all that which youre posting with such absolute certainty :>

EDIT: didnt hear anything of DK being the only Hero Class ever, just read a lot of times that there are a lot of ideas for other hero classes but they simply have to fit in the setting... but whether its true or not lets face it blizz change their mind time and again

[Sirsimeon]

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

...blizzard already stated that they wont go further than as creating the death knight class. Sorry to burst your bubble.

DO NOT LET YOUR IMAGINATION FLY. No, there wont be any new classes. NO. JUST no.
No hero classes either, blizzard already stated this. And blizzard wont make EVERYTHING change over night,
not even certain if they do the races, but if they do they certainly wont make new classes aswell.
Not even blizzard has devoted enough fans that they'd put up with too big changes

[Firemane]

why would there not be any new classes? Have you EVER played a MMORPG before?

Based on the success of the DK class, ofc there will be new classes (and they will all be "hero" classes)

[Sirsimeon]

I'm going to quote Zuma from the US Official WoW forums, cerainly interesting and food for thought.

Her theory is also supported by that she states the Elf may been teleported there, as it is not stated what her fate was besides she disapeared. And as they fought the legion in their home world, our defeating of the legion in the Burning Crusade may lead to the Worgens struggle being over in their world aswell, and putting that in favor of forming an alliance between their race and the races of Azeroth.

[Sirsimeon]

why would there not be any new classes? Have you EVER played a MMORPG before?

I've played most of them. And hence realize the effect of having to rebalance the entire game by adding a class,
it took blizzard 3.5 years of WoW untill they added a new class, I don't think they'll hatch up another 2 just like that almost a year later. It takes ALOT more effort to balance and integrate 2 new classes than it does to just add races.
Blizzard also faced alot of criticism towards adding a hero class, people found it to be unfair, out of character, unessessary,
and MANY opposed blizzard there. You just have to realize, alot of people dont like change. after every expansion more and more people grow tired and wish back to the old days, and blizzard cant afford to add new 2 new hero classes, new races, aswell as introduce their own neutral->faction system. It's unnessesarily much change

And deathknights were not a huge success, still loads of people oppose of them; not only for being overpowered (not anymore though) but also for starting rediculously late giving any account really a easy-level main to fund any further alts if you wanna reroll a new realm, but it also is rediculously out of character compared to other classes. I still don't like deathknights much personally.

[Firemane]

Think for a moment here.

Do you REALLY think blizzard will make a huge effort in making 2 new races for the sole purpose of giving players new skins? For an expansion? The lore aspect could simply be satisfied with npc factions. There is bigger things cooking here than some simple lv 1-20 starting zones, some racials and new dances (ZOMG)

[zeal]

I don't care if this has already been said, but furries take over wow = cataclysm. Makes perfect sense :P

[Balbaroy]

first

[Sirsimeon]

I don't care if this has already been said, but furries take over wow = cataclysm. Makes perfect sense :P

blizzard got bored of the draenei porn and went for full-out beastial furry :O

[Sirsimeon]

Were you not around for The Burning Crusade?

I was, and I agree. He's way out of line. Blizzard dont do HUGE things, adding races is huge enough. they wont change the entire game.

[Firemane]

So you would like an expansion with no change at all?

Also hero classes were one of the selling points of wow! There have been WAAAY more ppl asking "where are my hero classes" than "omg hero classes are silly"

And who are these ppl that hate the DK?

MMORPG expansions = Change

Live with it or move along

[ratboy728]

ok so i've read every single post (yes all 72 pages) and everything anyone has posted i've researched sources proving them. so this post will be based on nothing but those things which I believe have proven true and everything here has been posted previously.

first thing the number one thing proving worgen as playable race is the female form. I have dug and except for the fan art/fan graphic posted earlier there isn't a single female worgen in existence. also the fact that blizzard is lazy and wouldnt make models of anything unless if it was absolutely necesary.
the goblins however after looking at everyone's posts im begginning to think maybe not playable race, but maybe they were given a graphic boost since they are probably gonna be hosting us all in undermine. however them being playable is also definetly a posibility. i think if you datamined later you may find another mask perhaps showing a 3rd race that will be playable, but so far evidence points to these 2 being playable.

but if worgen and goblin are indeed the races, there is no doubt in my mind goblin will join horde and worgen will join alliance. the most speculated of these is the worgen going alliance. if you look at the lore surrounding Alphus Wordwill, you'll see that he was working on a cure for the worgen curse. this is going to be a main part of the worgen lore. either he will create said cure or a different alliance will, freeing worgen of the bloodlust that occurs during the moonlight hours. Allowing them control over themselves much like the wolfsbane potion is said to do to werewolfs. they will choose to stay in wolf form to assist in the fight against the emerald flame and naga. they also have connections with most alliance races, and have no connection horde except the forsaken, who they hate. goblins are going horde. horde need an intelligent class and a small class. goblins have always been neutral but always seem to tilt the odds in favor of horde. and PLEASE don't insult your own intellegence by saying blizz would make BB and gadgetzan horde only. they would make it so a single cartel would join horde, the rest would stay neutral.

as far as pandarens for the 3rd race... well the whole "not allowed by chinese cause they don't allow pandas getting hurt" is officially BS i have a friend from china and he says this law does not exist to his knowledge, and if it did him and his friends had broke it by playing multiple games (one mentioned earlier in this thread) involving panda men as main characters. yes these panda men do die, not just go poof as a way to get around this law. however something tells me blizzard may make them a neutral city, as they never seek war, lore says they left alliance because the alliance politics confused them, they preffered a simpler life. horde is even more unplausable almost everything in the horde go against the pandarens belief. if you wanna look up more wowiki has a great page on pandarens. but if they did become playable they would become alliance, since if you read up on their religion and ways of life it matches alliance in more ways than it matches the horde. the only way they'd join the horde is if thrall saved him like he did the taurens, but i don't think blizz would repeat like that. (and just to make it clear i would love to have pandas, theyd be my favorite race hands down)

and yes boub has officially never been wrong.

there was also alot of speculation over whether those were actually worgen or cat creatures... i will go through paris nude with boub if those arent worgen. the only reason the guy looks lionlike is because its a 2d image.
another thing many people have said that the female worgen is hot, this disturbs me in many ways but if the first thing you thought when you looked at those pictures is"wow thats one hot fox" or "dam... i hope they give her big tatas" you are not alone.

and yes someone brought up alot earlier that the goblins look like shreck/fiona. i dunno i guess but thats really off subject

another big argument is over the "neutral" faction. blizz won't make a 3rd faction because they would have to scrap bg's and it would more or less destroy one of the main focus's of all the warcraft game, the hatred between horde/alliance and how if they befriended each other like jaina and thrall want, how better off theyd be. the idea they might implement is how after level 10 you do a quest chain allying you to either the horde or alliance. however if they did this they wouldn't have chosen worg as one of the playable races. they could have done it with goblins easy, but i couldnt find a single plausible other faction that could be easily used in this way. so all in all i think worg-alliance  goblin- horde

and another thing all the ZOMG WORGEN DK!!! blizz could go either way on making these races able to be DK's. they usually like to see players enjoy starting areas or other new zones. theyre constantly showing this. you had to walk when you first got to outland but next patch you can fly at 60. they keep lowering the level at which you can buy mounts. NR you have to wait 7 levels b4 they allow you to fly over the landscapes they worked so hard on. so theirs that plus it wouldn't fit into the DK lore. those who actually read the quests they had to do to release their dk from the lich kings grasp know that you were once an argent dawn hero who was killed and raised as a DK. last time i checked no wolf people or goblins EVER joined the argent crusade or dawn.

balancing issues... well as soon as faction switch is implemented every1 and their mom is gonna go horde on most servers. worgen may attract a few to stay alliance. or if you think about the nubs that worgen will attract, may scare more people to horde. i dunno thats pretty sketchy.

i think i covered it all... but im tired and you'll have to excuse bad grammar and spelling/typos. but otherwise i think thats a good wrap up of everything posted so far.

edit: OMG i almost forgot, i have to mention an idiot who said "ive played since TBC and there haven't been any new races" GG. TBC was when first 2 new races were implemented. i lol'd at this super hard and think it deserves a special spot here

[Sirsimeon]

So you would like an expansion with no change at all?

Also hero classes were one of the selling points of wow! There have been WAAAY more ppl asking "where are my hero classes" than "omg hero classes are silly"

And who are these ppl that hate the DK?

MMORPG expansions = Change

Live with it or move along

There have been way more disapointment of Death Knights than satisfied people after release though.
And MMORPG = Change. but never EVER huge changes. 4 years of WoW, and never any revolutionary changes.
Minor tweaks, added a race, added some content. Not several new classes, several new races, massive new content, new neutrality system and all such at once.
Wrath of the Lich King and TBC; TBC added 2 races. And some content. Nothing Big. WotLK gave content.

[Firemane]

And the main reason blizzard made BEs and Draeneis was to give horde paladins and alliance shamans to be able to both diversify shamans and palas (which had been moving towards each other) and to streamline raid bosses. This has been stated many many times by blizz.

[Deleted]

Think for a moment here.

Do you REALLY think blizzard will make a huge effort in making 2 new races for the sole purpose of giving players new skins? For an expansion? The lore aspect could simply be satisfied with npc factions. There is bigger things cooking here than some simple lv 1-20 starting zones, some racials and new dances (ZOMG)

Then what was BC to you? Just some stupid senseless new zones where you can level your chara with a new skin and dance?...

IF they will ever bring another hero class I think it will not be to the same time as new races...
would be overkill ;D


BC: 2 races
WotlK: Hero Class
Next Addon: (maybe) 2 races

and as stated before there is always the problem of balancing a new class.. maybe we will see another hero class with addon that comes after the next addon (I still think blizz might bring a hero class if it fits in the setting of the addon )